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Re: Small Block top speeds?
« Reply #30 on: October 30, 2021, 05:08:31 PM »
My land speed racer 650 Triumph has 57 hp @ 7100 rpm at the rear wheel . It also has 39 ft lbs of torque at 7100 rpm... It has run 133 mph into a slight head wind , clocked by electronic Equipment...and held several speed records..
   Notice how low the clipons are, the general lack of crap in the in the wind.

     



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Re: Small Block top speeds?
« Reply #31 on: October 30, 2021, 05:13:15 PM »
My speedo checks out spot on with the radar traps set up at the start of towns.

4000rpm close to 63mph. I hit the rev limiter in top while passing a truck on a trip away recently.  I know it will hit 7000rpm without the limiter kicking in.

It has done 100mph without being fully open (close though).  Doing the math estimating at 7200 rev limiter (never hit it on purpose so don't know what it is set on) it says 113mph.  I seriously doubt that but it does go pretty well.
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Re: Small Block top speeds?
« Reply #32 on: October 30, 2021, 05:49:22 PM »
Fastest I've done on the v7ii Stornello was 90 indicated by GPS. Was not a happy experience. This is with an adapted large Norge windscreen and saddlebags.

I think they were quite I'm sure I could have gone faster but just wasn't comfortable.

Very happy to stick in the 60 to 70 range for top end. Different story of course on the griso and the 1200 sport. Triple digits are easily attainable but I long ago gave up trying to see what the top speed was on a motorcycle.
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Re: Small Block top speeds?
« Reply #33 on: October 30, 2021, 06:10:10 PM »
I hit the ton once on my 1984 V65C. If it had any more in it, I didn't care or need to know. It would run 75 all day without sweating it.
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Re: Small Block top speeds?
« Reply #34 on: October 30, 2021, 07:27:58 PM »
Fastest I've done on the v7ii Stornello was 90 indicated by GPS. Was not a happy experience. This is with an adapted large Norge windscreen and saddlebags.

I think they were quite I'm sure I could have gone faster but just wasn't comfortable.

Very happy to stick in the 60 to 70 range for top end. Different story of course on the griso and the 1200 sport. Triple digits are easily attainable but I long ago gave up trying to see what the top speed was on a motorcycle.

Exactly!

I have no clue about top end on either my II or III.  I don't find them fun above 65, and prefer winding roads at much lower speeds.  LD runs on either on straight roads or the slab seem wrong.  I am lucky to live where I never have to do that.

I have topped out my Griso and Norge -- Correction; I have topped myself out  -- several years ago under ideal conditions (except for the rider  :rolleyes:) at an indicated 125+ or so.  I was afraid to look down if they got more than that, and doubt that they did.

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Re: Small Block top speeds?
« Reply #35 on: October 30, 2021, 08:23:06 PM »
Exactly!

I have no clue about top end on either my II or III.  I don't find them fun above 65, and prefer winding roads at much lower speeds.  LD runs on either on straight roads or the slab seem wrong.  I am lucky to live where I never have to do that.

I have topped out my Griso and Norge -- Correction; I have topped myself out  -- several years ago under ideal conditions (except for the rider  :rolleyes:) at an indicated 125+ or so.  I was afraid to look down if they got more than that, and doubt that they did.

Bill

P.S.  Note to self: Check your meds, Bill.  Agreeing with BD9 is troubling.   :grin:

Hey buddy the clock is always right at least twice a day :-)
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Re: Small Block top speeds?
« Reply #36 on: October 31, 2021, 02:04:17 PM »
According to the speedo, Anni and I have hit 107ish. What that translates to in actual MPH, I haven't a clue. I don't find riding her at that speed particularly twitchy. That said, I enjoy regularly hitting the rev limiter on the Vespa. :evil: 
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Re: Small Block top speeds?
« Reply #37 on: November 01, 2021, 12:26:31 PM »
I'd agree with Muzz on the B750 - got to about 105-107 indicated on the Bahn in Germany just me on the bike but hard luggage and a tail pack. For laughs, my SZR660 got to a indicated 115mph flat on the tank, and my SRX600 with 11-1 Wiseco and a race pipe got about 105 before I lost my nerve on the bumpy road between Manildra and Parkes..... :grin:
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Re: Small Block top speeds?
« Reply #38 on: November 01, 2021, 03:52:54 PM »
My V50 II seems to be very reluctant to go over 80 mph according to my gps speedo. This is sitting normally. I have checked everything, timing, carbs, compression and unless it is the pattern silencers creating too much back pressure that's it. I would love to know how the road testers got up to 100 MPH

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Re: Small Block top speeds?
« Reply #39 on: November 01, 2021, 05:00:26 PM »
Exactly!

I have no clue about top end on either my II or III.  I don't find them fun above 65, and prefer winding roads at much lower speeds.  LD runs on either on straight roads or the slab seem wrong.  I am lucky to live where I never have to do that.

I have topped out my Griso and Norge -- Correction; I have topped myself out  -- several years ago under ideal conditions (except for the rider  :rolleyes:) at an indicated 125+ or so.  I was afraid to look down if they got more than that, and doubt that they did.

Bill


Same here. In my less responsible days on a lonely straight I hit 200Km/h (125 mph)  indicated with a naked '82 GS1100E -and it was still accelerating. But I decided that my helmet was flopping around too much and backed off.  Fun, once.  I lost a couple of friends in my twenties. One who lost an argument with a tree while riding his KZ900 too fast on a winding country road, the other a very fast lane cutting Honda 750 owner under the wheels of a large truck.  And then my wife's boss took his Hyabusa at high speed into a ditch which ended suddenly. Which also ended his life suddenly.  All self inflicted accidents, all of 'em died because of excessive speed. All closed caskets. Yeah, no I don't explore top speeds much anymore. Maybe on a salt flat...

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Re: Small Block top speeds?
« Reply #40 on: November 01, 2021, 08:26:56 PM »
Well I have heard it said, “the older you get the slower you get.”

Seems to resonate with some here.   Luckily, I know some well aged boys who still like t to rock on two wheels.
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Re: Small Block top speeds?
« Reply #41 on: November 02, 2021, 06:53:33 AM »
"Faster faster.. until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death."
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Re: Small Block top speeds?
« Reply #42 on: November 02, 2021, 07:06:19 AM »
I hit 100 on the 2010 Cafe Classic and it was scary.  Made me understand why hitting the ton back in the day was quite an accomplishment. 

I haven't gone for top speed on the 2018 V7III but have seen 90.

My 2012 Concours 1400 could hit 90 in second gear in a few seconds so it was easy to see 120 in a short length of road.  The 750s require some distance and time which increases the risk of someone noticing. 

I do wonder if because of the 6 speed transmission if the bike would be faster in 5th. 
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Re: Small Block top speeds?
« Reply #43 on: November 02, 2021, 07:11:39 AM »
My V50 II seems to be very reluctant to go over 80 mph according to my gps speedo. This is sitting normally. I have checked everything, timing, carbs, compression and unless it is the pattern silencers creating too much back pressure that's it. I would love to know how the road testers got up to 100 MPH

I do not believe a V50 will do 100 unless serious performance mods have been undertaken or some sort of aerodynamic fairing added, and a rider under 130#
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Re: Small Block top speeds?
« Reply #44 on: November 02, 2021, 10:57:02 AM »
Well I have heard it said, “the older you get the slower you get.”

Seems to resonate with some here.   Luckily, I know some well aged boys who still like t to rock on two wheels.


Ah, my dear (bad) Chad …

Some observations on yours, just above …

* You have no doubt heard the aphorism about old and bold pilots, which seems apropos here.  If you have not, ask one one of those about it.  Oh … never mind.   :wink:

*  I view nearly all high-speed runs on public roads and streets and juvenile and socially irresponsible. I have been both of those in every decade of my life, including more than once this very year. 

* One takes risks when we even only mount our motos, but I trust that the benefits outweigh — no "ton pun intended," but it amuses easily amused me :azn: — the risks when we choose to flout the legal limits and the never-forgiving laws of physics. 

* More importantly, however, than even those are our consciences if our risk/benefit analyses fail.  Our unflattering mugshots would be the least of our concerns; the obit for the toddlers who died at the price of our fun would follow us, as it should, to our graves.   :cry:

* So, yes, tho a very “well-aged boy” myself, but even one "who still likes [occasionally] to rock on two wheels,” you are probably right for many of us older moto-pilots: “the older you get the slower you get.”

* Resonates with me … well, until the red mist comes on and I get stooopid.  :copcar:

BTW, I do miss seeing and riding with you and the other midwest gang after breakfasts at Starved Rock State Park and other venues.  I think of that when I am near Hungry Mother S.P. in W.V.  Such odd names.

Best to all.

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Re: Small Block top speeds?
« Reply #45 on: November 02, 2021, 11:29:08 AM »
I would be very happy if I could get between 85 and 90mph on my V50 II. It's not that I want to ride at that speed but more for quicker acceleration above 70 mph when overtaking a 65 mph truck with a trailer. Anything over 75 mph on an un-faired bike become a feat of endurance. The bike is delightful on minor roads at 50 - 60 mph as the steering is so good. This is why I like it but there is the niggling disappointment that it is not a little quicker.

I am still hoping some other V50 owners will respond to the original question.

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Re: Small Block top speeds?
« Reply #46 on: November 02, 2021, 11:42:06 AM »
According toColombo thev50 max speed was 165 omg.

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Re: Small Block top speeds?
« Reply #47 on: November 02, 2021, 11:51:36 AM »
My V 50 11 would get to 90 mph...the NTX 650 will do slightly more.

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Re: Small Block top speeds?
« Reply #48 on: November 02, 2021, 11:59:10 AM »
According toColombo thev50 max speed was 165 omg.

165 km/h = 102 mph.

My V50 III has only been roadworthy a few months so I haven't tried any top speed antics. Gets up to an indicated 80 (GPS says 76) mph pretty quick though and was still pulling. The big fairing I installed last night may not help.  :wink:



 
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Re: Small Block top speeds?
« Reply #49 on: November 02, 2021, 04:00:21 PM »
Remember, it's not speed that kills, it's the extreme deceleration!
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Re: Small Block top speeds?
« Reply #50 on: November 04, 2021, 09:35:47 PM »
140km on the Breva 750. Might have gone faster but I wasn't game.

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Re: Small Block top speeds?
« Reply #51 on: November 05, 2021, 05:43:38 AM »
140km on the Breva 750. Might have gone faster but I wasn't game.

A bit of weight on the back and mine is rock solid.  Develops a slight weave at 80-85mph in sweepers, which is a wee bit off putting if one hits a bump at the same time.

The rear shocks are crap, but with the preload backed right off and a bit of weight on the back it is pretty stable overall.
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