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Ever heard rock music from Finland?
« on: November 06, 2021, 02:55:03 PM »

What do you think :wink:?
At least they play and sing pretty ok?

https://youtu.be/47e_961OQWE


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Re: Ever heard rock music from Finland?
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2021, 03:08:23 PM »
Frontwoman is a bit of eye candy. Their music is not my cup-o-tea.

She has pretty strong voice. The classical (music) training shows up (look her mouth or how easily she moves from full open throat voice to chest voice like 9:12 - 9:14 etc.). That needs training.
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Re: Ever heard rock music from Finland?
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2021, 04:20:04 PM »
I'm not saying she/they are not talented just my my thang musically.

No worries. That's one kind of symphonic metal music. As with all harder rock music, for sure all will not like it. Totally fine.
No matter what, the song itself has been pretty ambitious try (who ever of them wrote it). Already in intro part they change tempo 3 times  :bow:.
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Re: Ever heard rock music from Finland?
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2021, 04:31:46 PM »
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Re: Ever heard rock music from Finland?
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2021, 04:46:57 PM »
I have been a prog rocker since Court of the Crimson King. I enjoyed it.

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Re: Ever heard rock music from Finland?
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2021, 05:43:17 PM »
I like them ! I went through and listened to some others. Feel very 80s-ish too me. Not really a fan of keyboards in my heavy metal but wasn't a fan of them in the 80s other. Last Ride of the Day was a pretty good song. I might need to hear a studio cut rather than live. I find the quality of live recodings to be poor on YouTube.

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Re: Ever heard rock music from Finland?
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2021, 05:56:51 PM »
I have been a prog rocker since Court of the Crimson King. I enjoyed it.

I know Epitah. My father has lots of vinyls (and CDs), for example still having two turntables: Luxman PD 441 & Denon DP 59L.
Plus speakers which was originally designed to Sibelius Academy in Finland (via Jean Sibelius). For that kind of old bands, I have listened Pink Floyd more.
Liking guitar tone of David Gilmour.
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Re: Ever heard rock music from Finland?
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2021, 06:14:41 PM »
What do you think :wink:?
At least they play and sing pretty ok?

https://youtu.be/47e_961OQWE

Scandinavian musics that's not death metal or bluegrass covers of older rock songs? Is this even allowed :P . Ah its night wish, familiar with them via Areyon who i heard about via Toehider.
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Re: Ever heard rock music from Finland?
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2021, 06:26:46 PM »
Scandinavian musics that's not death metal or

Influence of Polar nights? We're closing that period.

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Re: Ever heard rock music from Finland?
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2021, 09:00:26 PM »
Influence of Polar nights? We're closing that period.
I think it’s great to get things like this from other areas of the globe here on WGC.
Please keep them coming in👍

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Re: Ever heard rock music from Finland?
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2021, 09:19:03 PM »
This clip reminds me of Evanescence.

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Re: Ever heard rock music from Finland?
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2021, 11:04:12 PM »
The opening sequence sounded very much like Pirates of the Caribbean to me. 
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Re: Ever heard rock music from Finland?
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2021, 02:59:24 AM »
Check these guys out do a lot of covers I really enjoy their style
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Re: Ever heard rock music from Finland?
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2021, 07:28:42 AM »
I have been a prog rocker since Court of the Crimson King. I enjoyed it.

OK, you and I are now friends whether you like it or not! Still love Prog Rock, Still love King Crimson and PFM, Yes, The Strawbs, Gentle Giant, etc. Robert Fripp is a God!
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Re: Ever heard rock music from Finland?
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2021, 07:30:09 AM »
I know Epitah. My father has lots of vinyls (and CDs), for example still having two turntables: Luxman PD 441 & Denon DP 59L.
Plus speakers which was originally designed to Sibelius Academy in Finland (via Jean Sibelius). For that kind of old bands, I have listened Pink Floyd more.
Liking guitar tone of David Gilmour.

I worked in the high end audio industry for much of my life and used to SELL those turntables! Both very good! And Epitaph is one of my favorite Crimson tunes.
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Re: Ever heard rock music from Finland?
« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2021, 07:32:01 AM »
What do you think :wink:?
At least they play and sing pretty ok?

https://youtu.be/47e_961OQWE

I think they are excellent! Really good Prog Rock and kind of a mix of Metalica, Queen and Heart, but their own way. And that woman is hot and wow can she sing!. I downloaded some stuff to Apple Music. Thanks for posting!
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Re: Ever heard rock music from Finland?
« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2021, 11:23:20 AM »
I worked in the high end audio industry for much of my life and used to SELL those turntables! Both very good! And Epitaph is one of my favorite Crimson tunes.
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Have you ever come across anything like these? Also these are much older than I'm (same as those turntables from late 80's and early 90's). They did not do much of these (big ones). The smaller version was more sold normal production model.



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Re: Ever heard rock music from Finland?
« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2021, 04:59:36 PM »
Have you ever come across anything like these? Also these are much older than I'm (same as those turntables from late 80's and early 90's). They did not do much of these (big ones). The smaller version was more sold normal production model.




I have never seen these before. Extremely odd to find a driver (woofer or midrange in this case) mounted in free air with no enclosure. Roughly how wide, deep, and tall are the base cabinets and did they function as a sub woofer or just a bass speaker cabinet? If that were the case then that would indicate that the open cone was used in the midrange, which is strange because it appears that they are quote large.......too large to be an effective midrange speaker.
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Re: Ever heard rock music from Finland?
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2021, 01:22:27 AM »
I have never seen these before. Extremely odd to find a driver (woofer or midrange in this case) mounted in free air with no enclosure. Roughly how wide, deep, and tall are the base cabinets and did they function as a sub woofer or just a bass speaker cabinet? If that were the case then that would indicate that the open cone was used in the midrange, which is strange because it appears that they are quote large.......too large to be an effective midrange speaker.
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I think you got it correctly  :bow:.

Tall? Bit over 145cm. The wood box is made from real birch (not from chipboard covered by some veneer). These are heavy. Speakers stands on rolls.

Yes, the bass element is in that box (woofer shows down).

The middle element is open, it is ''dipole'' (if I remember correctly how my father called it)? It is tilted a bit ... opening better against listeners.

The tweeter elements (4 together) are in the metal tower (up high). There are 2 switchers as well, but not sure what they'll do.

Over all I have to admit they sound pretty good. In my eyes ''airy'' describes them best. Meaning if I close my eyes, I do not very well know where the sound/music comes from (where the speakers are). But for that they need lots of space every direction (also behind). I think our living room is bit too small. They could fit bit better in some auditorium (you will sit bit higher). I assume my dad has also ended to amplifiers which will work well with those.

The person who designed those was working in University of Technology Helsinki. He used university's acoustic laboratory a lot. I assume computer programs (simulations) were rare back then. But yes, that design is outcome of somebody's deeper thoughts, and not just ... lets put few elements together weird ways. That kind of out of box thinking needs always some respects, right  :wink:?



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Re: Ever heard rock music from Finland?
« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2021, 06:45:09 AM »
Wow, those are large speakers! If they sound open and airy and not like speaker boxes......an excellent trait......some otherwise really good speakers never let you forget that you are listening to a box and not real music. Odd that they are so tall and yet the huge midrange cone is still aimed upwards. Normally one would want the tweeters at least, and perhaps the midrange, to be at or near ear level when sitting. The problem with that gigantic midrange is poor dispersion of the mid high range that it is trying to reproduce, so as long as they are aimed right at you, they could be accurate, but if you are off center the sound would be quite different. And as far as 4 tweeters, they tend to produce sound waves that interfere with each other. One tweeter is going to be better UNLESS they are made to play very loudly. And that fits the requirement for that really large midrange cone. So you are probably correct that these are made for a larger space. As for the dipole effect of the mid cone, odd that ONLY the midrange bounces off the back walls and not the hi frequencies, unless those tweeters are ribbon type. And you are also correct that they need space behind them, due to that mid cone. All speakers need to be off the wall a certain amount, to perform best, but those would be critical and moving them just an inch would make a big change in their sound. If you love them and keep using them you need to mark the floor where you like them best and move them 2 centimeters at a time to "tune" how they sound. They are very cool and beautifully made, it seems, but probably not ideal for a normal size home living/music/family room. What electronics do you use to run them?
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Re: Ever heard rock music from Finland?
« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2021, 08:49:10 AM »
Wow, those are large speakers! If they sound open and airy and not like speaker boxes......an excellent trait......some otherwise really good speakers never let you forget that you are listening to a box and not real music. Odd that they are so tall and yet the huge midrange cone is still aimed upwards. Normally one would want the tweeters at least, and perhaps the midrange, to be at or near ear level when sitting. The problem with that gigantic midrange is poor dispersion of the mid high range that it is trying to reproduce, so as long as they are aimed right at you, they could be accurate, but if you are off center the sound would be quite different. And as far as 4 tweeters, they tend to produce sound waves that interfere with each other. One tweeter is going to be better UNLESS they are made to play very loudly. And that fits the requirement for that really large midrange cone. So you are probably correct that these are made for a larger space. As for the dipole effect of the mid cone, odd that ONLY the midrange bounces off the back walls and not the hi frequencies, unless those tweeters are ribbon type. And you are also correct that they need space behind them, due to that mid cone. All speakers need to be off the wall a certain amount, to perform best, but those would be critical and moving them just an inch would make a big change in their sound. If you love them and keep using them you need to mark the floor where you like them best and move them 2 centimeters at a time to "tune" how they sound. They are very cool and beautifully made, it seems, but probably not ideal for a normal size home living/music/family room. What electronics do you use to run them?
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The tweeters are in black metal box (the tower). They are not open (reverse side). Opposite behind/reverse side; there are 2 switchers in those metal boxes: Treble +/-  and Control +/-

Yes ... over all those are huge. Designed to auditorium.  And nope (before anybody ask), I have never tested those in some home party ...

Amplifiers? Sorry, I do not remember the brand (needs to check that next time I'm there), but they looks ''simple''. Just 2-channels (we have multi channel/multi speakers home theater another room).
But there are 3 of those. Someway connected to each others. Two looks similar (just has power on/off switch) and the third has normal volume etc. basic switchers. I think the third one will control the two others. If that makes sense?

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Re: Ever heard rock music from Finland?
« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2021, 10:08:26 AM »
NOT music~NOISE???

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Re: Ever heard rock music from Finland?
« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2021, 05:37:17 PM »

Even being from Finland, I cannot listen this more than 30 seconds...
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Re: Ever heard rock music from Finland?
« Reply #23 on: November 09, 2021, 04:38:38 AM »

NOT music~NOISE???

Even being from Finland, I cannot listen this more than 30 seconds...
Sorry.

You like this more?

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Re: Ever heard rock music from Finland?
« Reply #24 on: November 09, 2021, 07:40:14 AM »
OMG....it's Catherine Zeta Jones!   :wink:
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Re: Ever heard rock music from Finland?
« Reply #25 on: November 09, 2021, 08:05:35 AM »
noisy nordics

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Re: Ever heard rock music from Finland?
« Reply #26 on: November 09, 2021, 08:30:44 AM »
You like this more?

https://youtu.be/EO0p_U1w89A

BTW: How's the ''rolling'' R sounds for you  :wink:?

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Re: Ever heard rock music from Finland?
« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2021, 01:36:27 AM »
I don't know if Fins are ahead or behind in body art fashion, but it's interesting to see how few tattoos and body piercings both in the band and in the crowd.

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Re: Ever heard rock music from Finland?
« Reply #28 on: November 10, 2021, 07:48:24 AM »
Try Lordi  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAh9NRGNhUU

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Re: Ever heard rock music from Finland?
« Reply #29 on: November 10, 2021, 08:56:01 AM »
This kind of reminds me of that terrible christmas music show 'Trans-Siberian Orchestra'

Deff not my cup of tea but they obviously have skills within that genre.  The keyboard they tried to make look tough and heavy metal with the fake pipes is pretty funny tho!
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