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Offline flower_king001

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selling Guzzi's going to Honda
« on: February 20, 2022, 12:12:01 PM »
Hey all,

 Been a dedicated Guzzi rider/owner for over 30 years but have been giving serious consideration of selling several if not all of my Guzzi's and buying a Honda Gold Wing Tour Automatic .  Anyone have any experience with the new Goldwing's?

 



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Re: selling Guzzi's going to Honda
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2022, 12:26:21 PM »
I think you'll enjoy it, funny you mention the GW, I ride with some older guys and we joke that my new MG has been back to the shop 3 times in 3-4 month, he has 198,000 miles on his GW and its been in the shop only twice...

Ride and enjoy!
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Re: selling Guzzi's going to Honda
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2022, 12:29:00 PM »
While I don’t own one, I’ve demoed several of the new Wings. Impressively smooth and nimble. While I am not a fan of the DCT version some seem to love it. Lots of mid range torque makes riding a big bike like the Gold Wing pretty easy. The only down side is Honda is proud of them and prices them accordingly.

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Re: selling Guzzi's going to Honda
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2022, 12:40:08 PM »
I'd try it on it's side 1st, 838lbs  My EV is my limit.
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Re: selling Guzzi's going to Honda
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2022, 12:49:34 PM »
1986 Moto Guzzi Lemans IV = bought off showroom floor in Nashville from Sonny Colliier
 I have many spares including like new original seat, exhaust, Euro signals ect.

1996 Cali i 1100 = almost approaching 80,000 miles. Swanee fairing and I also have a tinted MG screen as well. Hepco Becker trunk/bags, Corbin saddle ect.

1998 Moto Guzzi EV = I would hate to part with this work horse. Corbin saddle, Hepco Becker trunk/bags, Denali led driving lights, MG  short sport shield as well as a PlexStar.

2007 Moto Guzzi Breva 1100 = Cat removed, new 1200 Breva Sport forks, upgrade headlght, Denali led driving lights, cylinder crash bars, CARC crash bar, Corbin Saddle, Russell Daylong saddle as well as the original saddle. Mistral muffler as well as stock. K&N airfiler, MG saddle bags as well as a Givi trunk.  MG screen as well as a larege PARABELLUM shield.

This is only a sparse list as i have many more spare parts for all of the bikes listed above.

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Re: selling Guzzi's going to Honda
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2022, 12:53:12 PM »
I think you'll enjoy it, funny you mention the GW, I ride with some older guys and we joke that my new MG has been back to the shop 3 times in 3-4 month, he has 198,000 miles on his GW and its been in the shop only twice...

Ride and enjoy!

Yes, GW's seem to go forever with little trouble. I'm also looking at downsizing since I'm about to approach 60 years of age. Down to 1 car (91' 240 Volo owned since new) and a 2021 Tacoma Sport that I bought new back in June. So thinking the GW will be a good all around bike with heated grips, heated seat, ABS and much more.

I did think about a new V85TT but do I really need 5 Guzzi's?
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Re: selling Guzzi's going to Honda
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2022, 01:27:28 PM »
You want to keep at least one Guzzi. Yes Goldwings are largely trouble free. My 2004 had to go in for the frame reweld, but no problem since. But they are heavy. You won’t be able to go places you can on your EV especially off pavement. We like to point the bike in a direction and just go regardless of what the pavement turns into. A few times I had to turn around when encountering steep, rough gravel roads that would have been no problem on the EV.
Because they are reliable you could start out with a used one if you wanted. 100k miles they are just getting broken in.

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Re: selling Guzzi's going to Honda
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2022, 01:29:06 PM »
“….but do I really need 5 Guzzi's?“

I have five, maybe one less would be OK.
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Re: selling Guzzi's going to Honda
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2022, 02:11:56 PM »
I'd keep your favorite Guzzi's for a while after you buy the GW..... You may regret it. The GW is a very nice bike, but lack that 'something' essential to the MC experience.
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Re: selling Guzzi's going to Honda
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2022, 02:12:40 PM »
I did the exact opposite. I had a 2018 Goldwing non tour model. Fantastic bike. You get all the bells and whistles with a Wing. It's a heavy touring machine. Like all Hondas, change the oil and put the key in and ride. But if you want something unique in a bike don't buy a Goldwing. It's the reason I bought my 2020 California. 
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Re: selling Guzzi's going to Honda
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2022, 02:33:01 PM »
To me the fact that you are looking at the new GW says you are still at a time and place in your/mate place where you like the idea of long distance tour type of riding.
Therefore looking beyond MG is a reasonable and probably smart move, due to MG offers no such creature at this time.
Good luck with whatever you decide and my only advice would be that when and if you make that decision don’t look back.
The only thing I can offer on the GW is my buddy just bought one and loves it. He says it’s the only heavy motorcycle he’s ever owned that he can’t feel the pain of the weight.

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Re: selling Guzzi's going to Honda
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2022, 02:41:30 PM »
There are a lot of reasons to go with a new Goldwing, and while I would not try this (video below), its the rider, not the bike that says where you go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMrxee_fazo

I'd suggest you hang around a Goldwing forum to help you decide....
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Re: selling Guzzi's going to Honda
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2022, 03:26:45 PM »
Goldwings are usually very reliable but if ever you do have a problem look out.
Besides that they are as boring as bat----
Just my opinion FWIW
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Re: selling Guzzi's going to Honda
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2022, 04:14:29 PM »
I had a wing and loved it during its brief tenure. Sara got on the back and realized that she wasn’t snuggling me, so didn’t like it.  Sayonara.  I say go for it and keep your favorite Guzzi.
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Re: selling Guzzi's going to Honda
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2022, 04:56:43 PM »
Goldwings are usually very reliable but if ever you do have a problem look out.
Besides that they are as boring as bat----
Just my opinion FWIW

I went on a ride with a long time Guzzi friend on his newly acquired GW which he bought so he could go on long trips with his wife.  I was on the Daytona and we swapped bikes on the ride, I can see why some people like them but it just wasn’t for me and in the end it wasn’t for my friend either as he sold it a few months later. I did like the version that came out a few years ago that nobody seemed to like; it just looked smaller and more fun to me but they didn’t sell.
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Re: selling Guzzi's going to Honda
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2022, 05:16:01 PM »
Nothing wrong with owning a vintage Honda!!  I miss the ol' "Root Beer Float"...aka, my 1978 GL1000 - "naked" Gold Wing! It as a blast to ride...low and fast...and would run a 12-second quarter mile... :thumb: :cool: :wink:









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Re: selling Guzzi's going to Honda
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2022, 05:54:29 PM »
How to tell that I've been replaced by an alien imposter: I post here "selling Guzzis going to Honda".  :wink:
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Re: selling Guzzi's going to Honda
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2022, 06:32:09 PM »
I have a 2010 gold wing 1800 and love it!  BUT, replacing the air filter is a three hour job.  I have to do it tomorrow (26 feb) again and am not looking forward to it. 



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Re: selling Guzzi's going to Honda
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2022, 07:47:06 PM »
30-plus years ago I was talking with a couple sitting on a Goldwing.  I noticed they both had Harley T-shirts on. I asked them if they owned a Harley as well as the Wing. I still remember their reply, “Sold it! We wanted a motorcycle that would bring us back!”  I always thought that was pretty funny, even if I was a diehard Harley rider at the time.
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Re: selling Guzzi's going to Honda
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2022, 07:48:31 PM »
I haven't ridden the latest iteration, but chose the Vulcan Voyager 1700 in 2010 after a good test ride on the wing.  Back to back there was no comparison in handling and rider comfort.

Unless you have a great deal in the works, I recommend test riding the Indian Challenger, Harley Davidson  Road Glide,  BMW RT, and the Golwing back to back before making a decision.

If the automatic is the main driver, then other bikes like the Tracer 9, an maybe Versys 1000 have quick shifters so you don't have to clutch.
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Re: selling Guzzi's going to Honda
« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2022, 08:02:02 PM »
My Buddy is on his sixth Wing, started with a 1976 Gl1000, then a 1100, another 1000, 1200, 1500, 1800 circa 2016. If you want the same travel comfort with a little more room for the passenger test ride a BMW K1600 GTL, I did and bought it over the wing, near identical price and specs. My wife finds the BMW has more room for her even though she is pretty small, more comfortable backrest etc.
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Re: selling Guzzi's going to Honda
« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2022, 11:22:07 PM »
I haven't ridden the latest iteration, but chose the Vulcan Voyager 1700 in 2010 after a good test ride on the wing.  Back to back there was no comparison in handling and rider comfort.

Unless you have a great deal in the works, I recommend test riding the Indian Challenger, Harley Davidson  Road Glide,  BMW RT, and the Golwing back to back before making a decision.

If the automatic is the main driver, then other bikes like the Tracer 9, an maybe Versys 1000 have quick shifters so you don't have to clutch.

Agree.  I rode that big Kaw- sorta an imitation 'Glide.  I thought the Harley handled and rode much better.  I can only guess how much better a new Gold Wing might be.  I sat on a new one and liked the riding position.  Not a cruiser, felt light.  I'd like to test one.  Sorry the saddlebags won't hold a FF helmet.  Certainly the new 'Wing didn't feel as ponderous as my brother's 1600 Beemer. 

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Re: selling Guzzi's going to Honda
« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2022, 07:06:51 AM »
I have a 2010 gold wing 1800 and love it!

My '08 is my 5th Wing, all were purchased new but don't think I can afford another new one in retirement (lol).  I prefer it to anything else in my stable (CB125s, CL350, Wee Strom, '72 Eldo, LMIVSE & V11 Lemans)  for comfort, reliability & long distance 2 wheel travel.




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Re: selling Guzzi's going to Honda
« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2022, 07:19:03 AM »
Seeing as you'd be fortunate to get any real $$$ out of selling the Guzzis I'd keep at least two of them.  Bought, paid for, cheap to insure, easy to maintain-that sort of thing.  What's the worst that will happen?  You sell the rest of them next year?
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Re: selling Guzzi's going to Honda
« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2022, 08:06:44 AM »
The only Wings I have ridden were early ones, I wasn't impressed. I am sure newer ones are much better. Unless you are set on an auto trans I would go with a 1400 Cali or a Road Glide. You might still be able to find a new Cali somewhere. Then again a nice Convert might work.   :evil:
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« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2022, 08:26:04 AM »
I spent time at a Honda 'ship as a service writer. This is my direct observation and in no way do I say ALL wingers are some of the most condescending, pretentious folks this side of the grass. We just seemed to have a large proportion of them. Service work came to a halt to cater to them. Certainly not the type of rider coming off a Guzzi. If you want one, get it. Life is short.

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« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2022, 08:41:05 AM »
The only Wings I have ridden were early ones, I wasn't impressed. I am sure newer ones are much better. Unless you are set on an auto trans I would go with a 1400 Cali or a Road Glide. You might still be able to find a new Cali somewhere. Then again a nice Convert might work.   :evil:
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The GW has a standard riding position unlike the cruiser set up like the 1400, Harley & Indian.  The GW doesn't have floor boards but instead wide pegs.  The new GW is quite a bit lighter and has a easy turning telelver style fork.  I recently took a trip to Arkansas on my Ducati and one riders came along on the DCT Honda GW.  He really liked the bike in the hills.  Obviously he didn't keep up with the sportbikes but he liked the DCT because there was less of a chance to stall the engine.  BTW, he was riding with a guy on a Ninja that did kill his bike in the twisties and who dropped it. 
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Re: selling Guzzi's going to Honda
« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2022, 01:24:19 PM »
I just put Goldwing pegs on my Norge. That was enough for me.  :smiley:
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Re: selling Guzzi's going to Honda
« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2022, 01:42:25 PM »
FWIW, I seriously thought about a new wing too when I was in the market to get rid of the lemon MGX. Great bikes, dealers everywhere, handled great, tons of power and the tech is pretty good too.

But the Indian won my Pro/Con list by about 3 points. You can't go wrong. Good luck.

p.s. Keep the EV :thumb: Hands down the best motorcycle Guzzi has ever built (IMHO). I still have two of 'em and have zero plans on ever letting them go.
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