Choose 2020 V85 or later?

[Bpreynolds2]

Giving thought again to getting a V85 given the crazy deals happening on them new and also now used. 

I understand that 2021 forward got the tubeless wheels and some mechanical upgrades maybe.  Other then tubeless aspect, are the other updgrades to the newer models that significant in terms of riding experience?   

[SportsterDoc]

Some info here

https://adventuremotorcycle.com/news/2021-moto-guzzi-v85tt-announcement

[inditx]

I would buy the newest i.e. 2023, with the deals they have currently.
Get the red, white and blue one!
inditx

[Bpreynolds2]

I would buy the newest i.e. 2023, with the deals they have currently.
Get the red, white and blue one!
inditx

  I take it you are still enjoying yours. 

[Alfetta]

I would opt for the 2020 year model.

Reasons:
Probably get the lowest price based as compared to newer units.
I personally prefer spokes to cast rims.
I am becoming seriously against tech. so the less the better.

[Dave Swanson]

I would opt for the 2020 year model.

Reasons:
Probably get the lowest price based as compared to newer units.
I personally prefer spokes to cast rims.
I am becoming seriously against tech. so the less the better.

The 2021, 22, 23, and 24 (most models) tubeless rims have spokes.  The 2024 V85 Strada does have cast wheels. 

IMO, the first time you pick up a nail and can easily get yourself going again you will be patting yourself on the back that you went with 2021+. 



And most important of all the tubeless rims look cooler.   

[inditx]

I take it you are still enjoying yours.

I really am.
Although I would like cast wheels instead of spokes just for the “keepin em clean” factor.
Good luck!
Jack

[Vagrant]

I really am.
Although I would like cast wheels instead of spokes just for the “keepin em clean” factor.
Good luck!
Jack

The 21+ wheels look like Teflon coating and don't get dirty.

[kingoffleece]

Other than a Sunday show off coffee bike, I'll NEVER have tubes again.  There's your answer on what year to purchase.

[Moparnut72]

I saw a red, white, and blue one at the dealership a couple of months ago. Wow. Pictures don't do it justice, I thought it looked garrish in the pictures but in person, no way, very striking.
kk

[inditx]

The 21+ wheels look like Teflon coating and don't get dirty.

I think they don’t look dirty but absolutely do get dirty.
inditx

[inditx]

I saw a red, white, and blue one at the dealership a couple of months ago. Wow. Pictures don't do it justice, I thought it looked garrish in the pictures but in person, no way, very striking.
kk

I realize that I am biased but I agree!



inditx

[twowheeladdict]

The 2021, 22, 23, and 24 (most models) tubeless rims have spokes.  The 2024 V85 Strada does have cast wheels. 

IMO, the first time you pick up a nail and can easily get yourself going again you will be patting yourself on the back that you went with 2021+. 



And most important of all the tubeless rims look cooler.   

What seat do you have on your bike? 

[Dave Swanson]

What seat do you have on your bike?

The Guzzi Low Comfort.  It is 3/4" lower than stock.  It is very tolerable for all day rides.

[Huzo]

Ummmmm….?

[grebmrof]

Ummmmm….?

Could you elaborate?

[Dave Swanson]

Could you elaborate?

I am guessing Huzo thinks his polished rims are just as cool or cooler than mine.   

[Huzo]

I am guessing Huzo thinks his polished rims are just as cool or cooler than mine.   

I do hold that view David, but I would swap in an instant if given the opportunity. I would much prefer the black, outboard spoke design…( then I’d dismantle and polish them…) 

[inditx]

That’s why we love Huzo, one of a kind with his own style!
inditx
p.s. I would trade my tubeless spokes with aznakees for the ’24 cast, non spokes, in a heartbeat!

[Tusayan]

The biggest advantage of the newest model in my mind may be the variable cam timing that will give the engine some much needed additional torque.  With my 2020 you really do need to rev it to go anywhere, the engine character does not match what the bike appears to be visually.  Otherwise I chose my 2020 for a reason - the emissions control stuff is slightly less invasive, meaning for example that you can remove the evaporative system completely without lights coming on.  I updated to 2021 wheels for about $1000.  And I don’t like the cheapening up of the newest bike via replacement of the nice steel tube brackets with die cast aluminum.

I’m really tiring of ‘modern’ vehicles.  My 2017 car recently had an air mass flow sensor failure, which should not be a big deal given that it’s a $200 part that takes five minutes to swap.  Unfortunately I had to drive it 30 miles to get it repaired, it ran fine over idle but that damaged the first of two catalytic converters, the one that only functions for initial warm-up.  And OBTW one fuel injector also needed replacement to get the light to go out, although the car was running fine with only the $200 part replaced. Long story short, total repair cost was over $3000.  Pointless tech drives costs into the stratosphere, and it’s the same for motorcycles.

[smdl]

The other benefit of the E4 bike is the use of the 7SM ECU, which allows the use of Guzzidiag and Beetle Maps.   The new E5 bikes use the 11MP ECU, which is not supported in GD.  You can use UpMap, though.

Cheers,
Shaun

[Bpreynolds2]

Thanks to all who responded.  Very great info.  I think if I pull the trigger it will probably be the newer model.

[inditx]

The biggest advantage of the newest model in my mind may be the variable cam timing that will give the engine some much needed additional torque.  With my 2020 you really do need to rev it to go anywhere, the engine character does not match what the bike appears to be visually.  Otherwise I chose my 2020 for a reason - the emissions control stuff is slightly less invasive, meaning for example that you can remove the evaporative system completely without lights coming on.  I updated to 2021 wheels for about $1000.  And I don’t like the cheapening up of the newest bike via replacement of the nice steel tube brackets with die cast aluminum.

I’m really tiring of ‘modern’ vehicles.  My 2017 car recently had an air mass flow sensor failure, which should not be a big deal given that it’s a $200 part that takes five minutes to swap.  Unfortunately I had to drive it 30 miles to get it repaired, it ran fine over idle but that damaged the first of two catalytic converters, the one that only functions for initial warm-up.  And OBTW one fuel injector also needed replacement to get the light to go out, although the car was running fine with only the $200 part replaced. Long story short, total repair cost was over $3000.  Pointless tech drives costs into the stratosphere, and it’s the same for motorcycles.

Still waiting to hear if the 2024 needs shims for valve adjustment and the price of course.....
inditx

[Dave Swanson]

Thanks to all who responded.  Very great info.  I think if I pull the trigger it will probably be the newer model.

Good hunting.  I am sure you will be happy.  Mine is working it's way to the top of my all time favorite bikes. 

[Tusayan]

Still waiting to hear if the 2024 needs shims for valve adjustment and the price of course.....
inditx

Adding variable cam timing won’t likely affect the valve adjustment design.  Assuming it’s an entirely mechanical setup, my interest would be adding it to a 2020 model with appropriate fuel map changes to get the best of both bikes.  I’ll be riding mine today with my wife and will doubtless be reminded that more low and midrange torque is needed.

[twowheeladdict]

Thanks to all who responded.  Very great info.  I think if I pull the trigger it will probably be the newer model.

I would be all over this one if I didn't already have a V85TT.   $7,999.

https://www.sloansmotorcycle.com/Murfreesboro-Tennessee-37129/New-2022-Moto-Guzzi-V85-TT-E5/VDP/e4438744-0cea-4d77-9d08-52719abd6e00

You can choose all your own accessories and still come out ahead. 

[inditx]

Good deal there!
inditx

[Bpreynolds2]

Wow.  That is a good deal.  I’ve bought a Guzzi from Sloan’s before.  Might call them this week about that one.

[twowheeladdict]

 

[inditx]

Here’s one over on ADV, nicely farlked.
No relation to seller;
https://www.advrider.com/f/threads/2020-moto-guzzi-v85tt.1696545/