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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #270 on: January 22, 2025, 01:16:35 PM »
Locally...its all wiggly roads.  :grin:

Complete tangent (apologies to all - remember, this is a campfire!) but is locally the Exeter area generally, or similar? Your sig says SW England. I have a strong desire to ride in England, Wales/Peak District are two areas I've google earthed to death....

Just curious where you head out from. Something very romantic for this North American to ponder setting out from Lands End en route to Exmoor astride a standard, clad in waxed cotton...
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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #271 on: January 23, 2025, 12:10:30 PM »
Ah yes, I live a few miles from Plymouth and work in Exeter. I sometimes ride the bike to work in summer, and ride home over Dartmoor, taking in a non-alcoholic libation at the Warren House Inn, where they say the fire has not gone out for hundreds of years......Lovely place to sit and look at the view. There are some fun rides in the South West, but you have to beware the summer holidays as hundreds of thousands of tourists  descent on the South West, and places like St Ives are (IMHO) to be avoided. St Ives to St Just is a great ride. Okehampton to Great Torrington. Up the valley of the Exe to Dunster, hang a left and ride along with the Atlantic on the left until the Ramblers Rest Cafe - the best scones! Then onto Bideford, left again to Crediton and if theres time stop at Union Rd Moto Velo for great coffee and cakes..... And there are enourmous amounts of history all around, particularly ancient monuments and standing stones.....
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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #272 on: January 24, 2025, 12:52:23 PM »
Getting back to the V7 Sport, from the pics I've seen, the switch gear on the left seem to be a big ugly box.
Does anyone else see it?  What happened to Italian design?
 
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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #273 on: January 24, 2025, 01:51:27 PM »
...And the pigeon on the tank and headlight need to go IMHO.

Hate to ask what you think of Guzzi copying all those markings from their F-35B fighter jets onto the Aviazione Navale! 







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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #274 on: January 24, 2025, 02:35:50 PM »
Hate to ask what you think of Guzzi copying all those markings from the F-35 fighter jet onto the Aviazione Navale! 









Probably okay. The Italians use the F-35. So it's their jet markings.

Apparently planning to buy more.


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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #275 on: January 24, 2025, 03:32:50 PM »
Probably okay. The Italians use the F-35. So it's their jet markings.

Apparently planning to buy more.


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And the a Romans, Italians, and Guzzi all use the bald eagle so by that logic shouldn't it be fine on the tank and headlight?
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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #276 on: January 24, 2025, 03:37:44 PM »
And the a Romans, Italians, and Guzzi all use the bald eagle so by that logic shouldn't it be fine on the tank and headlight?

Pretty sure it’s a golden eagle.
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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #277 on: January 24, 2025, 03:49:28 PM »
Pretty sure it’s a golden eagle.

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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #278 on: January 24, 2025, 03:49:41 PM »
Pretty sure it’s a golden eagle.

According to eagle eyes at Google:

"It looks most like a Golden Eagle or Eastern Imperial Eagle, but strictly speaking, the eagle from Roman legions that ultimately inspired the Imperial French Eagle was not based on an actual species of eagle, but rather their mythology."

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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #279 on: January 24, 2025, 04:33:35 PM »
According to eagle eyes at Google:

"It looks most like a Golden Eagle or Eastern Imperial Eagle, but strictly speaking, the eagle from Roman legions that ultimately inspired the Imperial French Eagle was not based on an actual species of eagle, but rather their mythology."

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Forgot that the imperial eagle was also a possible inspiration.

Either way, I’m willing to bet the Romans did not use a bald eagle as a source, considering they’re a North American bird ;)
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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #280 on: January 24, 2025, 06:16:05 PM »
Forgot that the imperial eagle was also a possible inspiration.

Either way, I’m willing to bet the Romans did not use a bald eagle as a source, considering they’re a North American bird ;)

The bald eagle is native to North America which means Canada United States, and Mexico.

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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #281 on: January 24, 2025, 08:24:58 PM »
Sheesh! Now all this discussion of eagles and F35's Has the misspent youth in me wanting to go out and buy a leftover Aviazione Navale.

But I probably won't cause I would have to sell some of my current fleet first.



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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #282 on: January 24, 2025, 09:55:29 PM »
I have a Navale and I like all the graphics. I have to explain them once in a while but with a Guzzi gotta explain what it is anyway. And yes the Italian Air Force ordered more F35's.
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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #283 on: January 25, 2025, 08:23:31 AM »
Ah yes, I live a few miles from Plymouth and work in Exeter. I sometimes ride the bike to work in summer, and ride home over Dartmoor, taking in a non-alcoholic libation at the Warren House Inn, where they say the fire has not gone out for hundreds of years......Lovely place to sit and look at the view. There are some fun rides in the South West, but you have to beware the summer holidays as hundreds of thousands of tourists  descent on the South West, and places like St Ives are (IMHO) to be avoided. St Ives to St Just is a great ride. Okehampton to Great Torrington. Up the valley of the Exe to Dunster, hang a left and ride along with the Atlantic on the left until the Ramblers Rest Cafe - the best scones! Then onto Bideford, left again to Crediton and if theres time stop at Union Rd Moto Velo for great coffee and cakes..... And there are enourmous amounts of history all around, particularly ancient monuments and standing stones.....

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« Reply #284 on: January 25, 2025, 08:41:38 AM »
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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #285 on: January 27, 2025, 11:24:39 PM »
All the new V7's have the larger throttle body with presumably the separate ECU like the V85.

They all have Ride By Wire, Cruise, and multi-mapping, but only the V7 SPORT has the "Sport" mapping mode. At least according to initial literature from Guzzi.



As someone who has played with BMW's R Ninet series with the ride by wire, I would be compelled to buy the V7 Sport with the Sport map over the others.  The Beemer calls it "Dynamic" mode in the Ride Modes Pro and the R NineTs that only had "Road" and "Rain" had a sluggish feel in comparison.  It's like you have to pay extra to uncork the full factory performance of the motor.  Too bad.

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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #286 on: July 24, 2025, 12:28:49 PM »
We got our first two of the 2026 V7 sports today, green ones, both pre-sold and are getting prepped.

It is VERY different.  Be safe to say it could be called an all-new model.     So much new stuff on it.   

Pipes are very different, new switches, new keys (still no chips), new brake master, black levers.  The heat shields on the side are sort of fake to make it look like straight thrus, but it really loops under the bike and crosses over.




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« Reply #287 on: July 25, 2025, 07:19:26 AM »
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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #288 on: July 25, 2025, 08:15:29 AM »
According to eagle eyes at Google:

"It looks most like a Golden Eagle or Eastern Imperial Eagle, but strictly speaking, the eagle from Roman legions that ultimately inspired the Imperial French Eagle was not based on an actual species of eagle, but rather their mythology."

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Except:  The Guzzi eagle is taken directly from the WWI Italian air force eagle.  It represents Giovanni Ravelli, the friend of Carlo Guzzi and Giorgio Parodi, who died in an aircraft accident at the end of WWI.  The three air force buddies had planned to start a motorcycle company together.  Guzzi and Parodi survived to see the vision through and adopted the air force eagle in their logo to represent Ravelli and their time in the air force.



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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #289 on: July 25, 2025, 08:25:51 AM »
We got our first two of the 2026 V7 sports today, green ones, both pre-sold and are getting prepped.

It is VERY different.  Be safe to say it could be called an all-new model.     So much new stuff on it.   

Pipes are very different, new switches, new keys (still no chips), new brake master, black levers.  The heat shields on the side are sort of fake to make it look like straight thrus, but it really loops under the bike and crosses over.





I was wondering if they’d cave in finally and do a crossover pipe at some point.
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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #290 on: July 25, 2025, 08:32:36 AM »
I was wondering if they’d cave in finally and do a crossover pipe at some point.

That "crossover" is the E5 compliant catalytic converter.  Triumph does the same thing with the Bonneville.
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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #291 on: July 25, 2025, 09:04:18 AM »
That "crossover" is the E5 compliant catalytic converter.  Triumph does the same thing with the Bonneville.

If my 73 V7 Sport was Verde Legnano I don't think I could resist getting one.   :wink:

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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #292 on: July 25, 2025, 09:17:41 AM »
I like it other than a few cosmetic issues, wish it has chrome or stainless exhaust instead of the painted one, a flat seat that was a little longer, and longer front fender w/o the big mounting struts. My hunch is the current styling team didn't want to make it look too much like the original because then they'd be just copying, so they add their own styling changes. The mechanical improvements are great but IMO the original was the nicer styled motorcycle.
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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #293 on: July 25, 2025, 09:28:16 AM »
The mechanical improvements are great but IMO the original was the nicer styled motorcycle.

Agree on the nicer.  There can be only one Mona Lisa of the motorcycle world.

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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #294 on: July 25, 2025, 09:38:22 AM »
I like it other than a few cosmetic issues, wish it has chrome or stainless exhaust instead of the painted one, a flat seat that was a little longer, and longer front fender w/o the big mounting struts. My hunch is the current styling team didn't want to make it look too much like the original because then they'd be just copying, so they add their own styling changes. The mechanical improvements are great but IMO the original was the nicer styled motorcycle.

Pretty sure you can say that about all these “resurrected” throwback models - V7 Sport, Bonneville, RE Interceptor, W800, etc., often due to a change in modern chassis, but especially the fact that most of them gain AT LEAST 50 lb. In this case, I don’t think a small block frame works to replicate the low hugging styling, unless they used the V9 frame with its straight-back rear rails, but even then you’re dealing with the frame differences as far as the engine mounting goes. The small block was built for squishing into a small motor, whereas the big block frame hugged down lower but offered more space to stretch out, it seems…………coming from a person who’s never even sat on a BB Tonti.

I’ve always felt the 5.5 gallon V7 Sport-like tank looked a little odd on such a short frame.
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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #295 on: July 25, 2025, 09:43:16 AM »
That's what I'm talking about, Dave.

 Back in the 70's my ride was a 1973 V7 Sport that was almost identical to yours, same color, brakes, only with a gray frame.
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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #296 on: July 25, 2025, 10:03:05 AM »
I like it other than a few cosmetic issues, wish it has chrome or stainless exhaust instead of the painted one, a flat seat that was a little longer, and longer front fender w/o the big mounting struts. My hunch is the current styling team didn't want to make it look too much like the original because then they'd be just copying, so they add their own styling changes. The mechanical improvements are great but IMO the original was the nicer styled motorcycle.

Bench seat is one reason I'm on a Bonneville right now.  Lower pegs with (lots) more leg room is another reason.  Though not really reflected in the specs, the Bonneville "feels" much bigger than the V7 variants.  After owning two V7 variants over the past 15 years, bringing a T100 Bonneville into the garage has been refreshing.  Much more roomy and comfortable seating. For Rider and passenger.

It really is too bad that the long and low look of the earlier V7 Sport and 850 LeMans big-block bikes has not been, or cannot be, replicated with the current line of small blocks.  A couple more inches of wheelbase and a flatter seat would do wonders...
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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #297 on: July 25, 2025, 10:31:01 AM »

It really is too bad that the long and low look of the earlier V7 Sport and 850 LeMans big-block bikes has not been, or cannot be, replicated with the current line of small blocks.  A couple more inches of wheelbase and a flatter seat would do wonders...

No but they could have gotten it closer to the originals look. The new one's seat is a little higher (3/4") which is the riders portion. There is a lot of open area under the stepped up passenger portion to the tire. Just lowering all that making the whole seat flat and a little longer would stretch out the bike visually. At just under 1" the wheelbases aren't that much different.
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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #298 on: July 25, 2025, 12:28:32 PM »
Except:  The Guzzi eagle is taken directly from the WWI Italian air force eagle.  It represents Giovanni Ravelli, the friend of Carlo Guzzi and Giorgio Parodi, who died in an aircraft accident at the end of WWI.  The three air force buddies had planned to start a motorcycle company together.  Guzzi and Parodi survived to see the vision through and adopted the air force eagle in their logo to represent Ravelli and their time in the air force.





Again from Google...

During WWI, the Italian air force, known as the Corpo Aeronautico Militare, did not have a specific eagle emblem as part of its official insignia. While the eagle is a common symbol in Italian heraldry and was later incorporated into the Regia Aeronautica (the Italian Air Force established in 1923), it wasn't present on Italian aircraft during World War I. Instead, early Italian aircraft used the cockade of Italy, a roundel with the colors of the Italian flag, as their primary marking.
Here's a more detailed explanation:
No Eagle Emblem in WWI:
The Corpo Aeronautico Militare, which was the air component of the Italian Army during WWI, did not feature a distinct eagle emblem on its aircraft.
Italian aircraft primarily displayed the cockade, a circular symbol with the colors of the Italian flag (green, white, and red).
Evolution of the Eagle Symbol:
The eagle became a more prominent symbol in Italian military heraldry, including the Italian Air Force, after WWI, particularly with the establishment of the Regia Aeronautica in 1923.

The Italian Air Force eagle didn't exist in WW1. So who knows where the Guzzi eagle came from, it's all speculation at this point.
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