New V7 Sport

[rocker59]

The Italian Air Force eagle didn't exist in WW1. So who knows where the Guzzi eagle came from, it's all speculation at this point.

Your AI overview from your Google search response is letting you down. 

The image in my previous post is a WWI Italian pilot's badge.  Unofficial as they may have been, they existed.

History from the eagle's beak:

On 15 march 1921, the company "Società Anonima Moto Guzzi" was constitued in the offices of the notary Paolo Cassanello in Corso Aurelio Saffi, Genoa, for "the fabrication and sale of motorcycles, and all other activities pertinent or correlated to the metalworking and mechanical engineering industries". the partners in the Company were the renowned Genoese ship owner Emanuele Vittorio Parodi, his son Giorgio and his friend Carlo Guzzi. Guzzi was a former comrade of Parodi's in the Italia Air Corps, as was another friend giovanni Ravelli, an aviator - like Parodi - who died, however, on 11 August 1919 during a test flight. It was in memory of this friend that the spread-winged eagle motif in the Moto Guzzi badge was chosen.

https://www.motoguzzi.com/hk_EN/tradition/history/#:~:text=Dedicated%20to%20the%20US%20market,Nevada%20and%20V11%20Sport%20series.


From Guzzi Club UK:

During WW I, two Italian Pilots and their Mechanic friend Carlo Guzzi decided to create a motorcycle company after the war.

From the beginning, Moto Guzzi’s logo – an eagle with spread wings – was adopted in commemoration of their dead friend, being identical to an Italian military pilot’s wing.

https://www.motoguzziclub.co.uk/the-history-of-moto-guzzi


This information is well known in the Guzzi World.  The fact that it's being debated here is saddening. 


Another example of a WWI Italian eagle pin:

worn by a "US Air Service Pilot member of the "Foggiani" who served with the Italian Air Force in WWI".

https://www.flyingtigerantiques.com/incredible-wwi-italian-pilot-wing-in-gilt-bronze-jewelry-modified-for-usn-or-usas-pilot.html

[Vagrant]

Ed, did the forks come from the Aprilia 660?

[Scott Carpenter]

Well after 700 miles I'm very much loving my new V7 Sport. Yesterday I rode both bikes, the Sport to a Morini Owners Club Breakfast at which there were about 30 bikes, but not a single Morini  , and then the Breva 750 in the afternoon only about 15 miles or so to visit a friend in Plymouth and back. The Sport just has so much more torque than the Breva, then engine of which now feels a bit weedy to me. Yet I've travelled 100,000 on that weedy engine. Cest la vie.  The Sport handling is in a different class as well, much more secure/planted. Everyone comments on the excellent engine note of the Sport, and it attracts a bit of attention.

Yesterday ordered my hard luggage for it and will have to think about booking in that first service. Then I think a trip to the mountains is in order, a long weekend in Wales I think.

And sadly also advertised the Breva for sale.   

[DoubleGuzzi]

And sadly also advertised the Breva for sale.   

Could at least wait until I sold mine!
Equally sad but something's gotta go.
(Unfair to compare the modern, 'sport' oriented, bigger capacity bike to the auld stalwart.)

[Ed / AF1 Racing]

Ed, did the forks come from the Aprilia 660?

no, the forks are unique to the V7 Sport at 41mm....RS660 are 43mm.  Adjustable in preload only.

only markings on forks show they are supplied by Wuxi KWT -- Looks like the China branch of KYB

Wuxi KYB Top Absorber Co., Ltd (hereinafter referred to as “KWT”), one of the KYB Group’s production bases in China, is located in Wuxi, Jiangsu Province, China, and
mainly manufactures suspensions for motorcycles.

[Vagrant]

Whateverhappened to "economies of scale"?

[rocker59]

Whateverhappened to "economies of scale"?

And Guzzi supporting local vendors???  Marzocchi, etc...

I know it's the way of the world, but one of the charms of Moto Guzzi was the very high Italian-made parts content in their motorcycles.

[Kev m]

And Guzzi supporting local vendors???  Marzocchi, etc...

I know it's the way of the world, but one of the charms of Moto Guzzi was the very high Italian-made parts content in their motorcycles.

Yeah and I lament it too, but charm comes at a cost.

My local breweries charge $15-18/4-pack (16oz cans) of craft Pilsner.

My local liquor store sells a decent German pilsner for $8/4-pack.

I buy a little of both.

PS gawd I want a V7 Sport!

[blu guzz]

I got to see the new V7 Classic today in Black-Green.  It is a stunner.  I only saw it under florescent lights and still it was beautiful.  The 2 Sports that arrived were pre-sold so had been picked up already.  There are several classics and some stones presently at Cadre but a Sport is on the way and may be the demo. 
It is a good thing that the Black-Green was not set up and ready to ride or my wallet would have been in trouble. 
Only down side for me is that they will all have the single gauge from now on.  It would have been perfection with the 2 clocks, at least for me.  It won't stop me when I am ready.

[Scott Carpenter]

Made a bit of a mistake by not booking in the first service on the day I picked it up......so it's going to be minimal mileage until the 28th and the first service. Phoned up for the first service when I had 830 miles on the clock...whoops!

But hey I still have the Breva to ride around on in the meantime. 

[smdl]

Probably old news, but I just noticed a heated grip icon on the V7 dash for 2025.





Another nice and thoughtful feature for the V7 line.  I would likely Interface Oxford grips to the integrated controller, just like I have with all three V85s that I have had.  👍

Cheers,
Shaun

[bad Chad]

Must watch review..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJw3ybvxIps

[blu guzz]

I rode it today, the V7 Sport, that is.  I would say there is one in my future.  Such a fun machine.  Practically zero miles on it and everything worked perfectly.  On paper, the changes don't sound massive, but when you ride the machine, it is sublime.  Just think, 10 years ago we were on the V7 750 version 1.  To come so far so fast is truly extraordinary for an Italian company.  Bravo Moto Guzzi.

[Scott Carpenter]

Next Thursday my new V7 Sport gets its running in service, screen, centrestand and the following weekend I'll mount the pannier racks. Then its away for a 4 days shakedown tour ASAP probably to Wales. Really looking forwards to it, and how it compares to the Breva on a longer trip. I have about 90,000 miles on Brevas, so its a high bar.

[Ed / AF1 Racing]

one bit of parts trivia we'd share

the new 2026 V7 E5+ models are a unique fitment of saddles.  Older ones do not fit.  And the new ones dont fit on older 850s.  The new E5+ ECU is under the back section of the saddle, seat pan is way different.  Moreso, the location of the latching pin changed a couple inches.  MG did make a bunch of new accy saddles for E5+ models.

3 overall V7 saddle fitments now

26 (25 model in EU) E5+
21-25 E5
then the 750s--  classics, I, II, III were all interchangeable with each other.

[Dr. Enzo Toma]

Thanks for the information, Ed. Would you mind sharing a photo of the under seat area? I'm interested to see if the redesign brought about a better area for holding the OEM tool bag. On my 2022 V7 850 E5 anytime I lift the seat the tool pouch falls out. I added a bag to the underside of the seat so that wouldn't happen with my documents.

[Ed / AF1 Racing]

[Dr. Enzo Toma]

Much appreciated, Ed.
For anyone else who shares my curiosity in the comparison, here's what it looks like on a 2022 V7 850 E5 Stone with the few changes I've made of installing the OEM accessory USB kit and an under seat paperwork pouch.

[Rons]

Dropped off my new 2026 V7 sport to have the heated grips installed.

Hoping for a break in the Winter weather to get it home.

MG has a huge hit on their hands with this bike. I would say they should offer a version with medium clip ons and higher footpegs.

Customers could choose which one and if MG offered the pegs and bars as accessories, they could swap. I would love the footpegs further up and back, but I would keep the standard bars.

The Sport is noticeably quicker than the standard 850. Brakes are better, not quite one finger sportbike brakes, but stronger than the single disc.

Sound under full throttle is awesome, even with the stock mufflers.

If you don’t have one, I suggest you test ride one.

[MikeP996]

"The Sport is noticeably quicker than the standard 850."

I wouldn't have thought 2HP would make any difference at all assuming the gear ratios are the same.  What is the difference in 1/4 mile or related acceleration tests?

[Moparnut72]

I did a specifications search. The '26 Special has the same HP and torque as the Sport. Of course with twin brake discs I would expect the Sport to have stronger brakes. I find that my Special is quite fast, substantially more than the V7lll I had previously. More torque at lower rpm so it doesn't have to be wound up near as much as the V7lll.
kk

[Dirk_S]

I’m curious if the quick feel is more a product of mapping. With “sport” in the name, I wouldn’t be surprised to see a different map is being used.

[Kev m]

I’m curious if the quick feel is more a product of mapping. With “sport” in the name, I wouldn’t be surprised to see a different map is being used.

I believe it's a multi map engine and only the Sport HAS the Sport map as an option on the dash.

[Rons]

The Sport also has bigger fuel injectors. After riding both at the dealer, I feel that the Sport HP is underrated, or the 850 special/stone is overrated. Not sure why they are rated the same.

Difference in thrust is obvious. I rode one right after the other. Did not redline since they were new bikes, but up to 4500 rpm, the Sport was much punchier and felt like it accelerated faster.

Partly why I decided to get the Sport. That and the suspension/brakes upgrades.

[Moparnut72]

Was the Special or Stone that you rode a '25 or '26. I think the '26's have more HP than the '25's due to different cams, fuel injectors but for sure a better exhaust system. My '26 Special feels like it has more HP than the listed amount. I can feel that it is close to the T120 Triumphs.
kk

[Rons]

Was the Special or Stone that you rode a '25 or '26. I think the '26's have more HP than the '25's due to different cams, fuel injectors but for sure a better exhaust system. My '26 Special feels like it has more HP than the listed amount. I can feel that it is close to the T120 Triumphs.
kk

It was a 2025 special and a 2026 Sport. I could be wrong, I thought that only the Sport got the bigger fuel injectors.
That all got a larger air box and underside oil squirters to cool the pistons.
As far as I remember both bikes were in road mode.

All I know is I’m very happy with the sport as far as performance and looks.

[Moparnut72]

The '26 V7 Specials and Stones got big upgrades, probably similar to the '25 Sports. Hard to say though as I have been unable to find details on the '26's as of a few weeks ago. I got my Special last fall and what I could tell at the time there were very few in the country.
kk

[Dr. Enzo Toma]

I was curious about the performance so checked the EPA certification filing to see if anything stood out there. The performance there is reported as the same between the V7 models (Sport, Stone, Special) for the same model year. That wouldn't account for different ride modes though.

Found in the "Certified Highway Motorcycle Test Results Report Data" spreadsheet on https://www.epa.gov/compliance-and-fuel-economy-data/annual-certification-data-vehicles-engines-and-equipment

Model Year   2026
Category   Highway Motorcycle - III(>-279cc)
Certificate No.   TPVMC0.85MPU-016
Engine Family   TPVMC0.85MPU
Permeation Family   TPVMPMETALMP
Manufacturer Name   Piaggio Group Americas, Inc.
Engine OEM Manufacturer   Piaggio and C. S.p.A.
Engine OEM Country   Italy
Vehicle OEM Manufacturer   Piaggio and C. S.p.A.
Vehicle OEM Country   Italy
Small Volume Manufacturer Type   NA
Application Type   NEW
Sales Area   50S
Combustion Cycle   4
No. of Cylinders   2
Valve per Cylinder   2
Fuel Type   GAS
Engine Displacment(s)   853
Fuel System Type   SFI
Air/Fuel Feedback Sensor?   Y
No of Carburetors   
Other Fuel System   
Air Aspiration Type   NA
Other Air Aspiration Type   
Air Injection Type   PAIR
Other Air Injection Type   
Charge Air Cooler Y/N   N
Electronic Control   ECM
EGR - Y/N   N
Catalytic Converter - Y/N   Y
Catalyst Type   Three Way Catalyst (TWC), single-bed, closed-loop warm up
Models Certified   V7 Special, V7 Sport, V7 Stone
Exhaust Test Procedure   FTP_C
Emission Measurement Unit   G/KM
ABT Engine Family   N
Exhaust FEL - HC   
Exhaust FEL - HC+NOx   
Exhaust FEL - CO   
EDV Type   NEW
EDV Model   Moto Guzzi V7
EDV VIN   P2-12 (prototype)
EDV Engine Code   P2-12 (Proto)
EDV Engine Displacement - cc   853
EDV Rated Power   49.5
Power Units   kW
EDV EIM   330
EDV Rated RPM   6900
EDV Road Load Force (N)   141.6
EDV Transmission Type   M
EDV Transmission - No. Speeds   6
EDV N/V Ratio   37.3
DF Type   M
DF-HC   1.000
DF-NOX   1.000
DF-HC+NOX   1.000
DF-CO   1.000
Low Hour GHG CO2   122.2
Low Hour GHG CO2 Method   Tested result from the EDV(s) of the Engine Family
Low Hour GHG CH4   0.007
Low Hour GHG CH4 Method   Tested result from the EDV(s) of the Engine Family
Low Hour GHG N2O   0.005
Low Hour GHG N2O Method   Tested result from the EDV(s) of the Engine Family
Certification Level - CO   0.2
Certification Level - NOx   
Certification Level - HC   
Certification Level - HC+NOx   0.1
Permeation-Tank CBD Y/N   
Permeation-Fuel Line CBD Y/N   
Fuel Tank Material   M

For comparison:
2022 V7 is listed as 47.8 kW @ 6800 RPM
2026 V7 is listed as 49.5 kW @ 6900 RPM

Odd that they're tested at different RPM.

[Kev m]

As usual I feel like many are confused by Guzzi's tech info and sometimes contradictory releases coupled with misunderstandings.

@Rons - I can't imagine they would change the fuel injectors between two trim levels. How strong is your EFI operational understanding? Are you sure you're not just confusing the fact that the latest series of the V7 uses a larger throttle body (off the top of my head the GUI/M3 combined throttle body/ECU uses a 38mm throttle bore while the latest series uses a 52mm throttle body with separate ECU).

@Moparnut72 - I'm not 100% but I've never actually seen a "2025" V7 in North America, at least not of the new series, maybe they imported a few of the final previous series with the GUI/M3 and NONE of the new changes as 25 models. But like they have traditionally done with most new releases in the decades I've been riding Guzzis they announce a new model and the EU and markets other than North America get it first (2025 model year) and North America doesn't get it until later (2026 model year).

Now I haven't ridden the new series yet, but I'll bet one my smallblocks that the only real difference in power/feel between the Special and Sport (of the same series) is the "Sport" map that is available only on the Sport version. How big a difference that makes is probably very subjective.

[Rons]

Merry Christmas Kev, yes I thought for some reason that only the Sport got the 52mm injectors. I had read that in one of the reviews.

The special I rode was a 25 and my Sport is a 2026. So maybe the 2026 V7 engines are all the same, and the 25 Special and stone didn’t get the new ecu and injectors??

Anyway whatever the specs between trims, I love the color and the blacked out drivetrain on the Sport.
It “feels” about as fast as my ‘94 Ducati 900ss. That bike was dyno’ed at 72 hp at the rear wheel. So the MG has less HP but more torque 🤷🏻‍♂️.