Author Topic: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks  (Read 1316 times)

Offline The-Guzzi

  • New Egg
  • *
  • Posts: 5
2021 V85 TT bent front forks
« on: May 25, 2025, 09:23:28 AM »
hello all wild guzzi members i bent my front forks on my 2021 V85 TT guzzi and was wondering if there was any other guzzis that were interchangeable looking to by second hand not new at the moment 

Offline Dirk_S

  • www.dirkshearer.com
  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 1938
  • Doodler of doodles
    • www.DirkShearer.com
  • Location: Portland, Maine, U.S.
Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2025, 09:35:11 AM »
Just the V85 bikes have those forks. Do you need to replace everything, or can you buy individual components?
« Last Edit: May 25, 2025, 09:39:29 AM by Dirk_S »
Current: '18 Guzzi V7 III Rough, '17 Guzzi V9 Bobber, ‘78 BMW R80/7, 1986 Sputnik sidecar

Previous: '16 Guzzi V7 II Stone, ‘15 Ural Gear Up, '11 Suzuki TU250X, ‘86 Guzzi V65 Lario, '78/‘80 Honda CX500, '77 Kawasaki KZ400 Special

Online Perazzimx14

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 6200
Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2025, 09:42:36 AM »
Depening on how badly they are bent you may be able to have them straightened. If they are bent bad enough that straightening is not and option you may have also done more damage than meets the eye as in the frame may be racked.
2021 Moto Guzzi V85TT Guardia D'onore
2017 V7 III Carbon Dark #0008 of 1921
2017 Road Glide Special
2020 Kawasaki KLX300SM
2016 Suzuki Van Van 200 AKA Honda Trail 125 killer
2008 Harley Davidson Softail Custom

Offline Dukedesmo

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 597
  • Location: England
Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2025, 09:44:04 AM »
How badly bent?


Because if it's just the tubes/sliders then they're likely available for not too much cost, I've replaced them before on a couple of different bikes and they were fairly reasonable.
Le Mans II
Ducati 916
Ducati M900

Offline The-Guzzi

  • New Egg
  • *
  • Posts: 5
Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2025, 10:04:24 AM »



Online DoubleGuzzi

  • Gaggle Mentor
  • ****
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 345
  • '08 750Breva; '19 V7III CS; '79 V50;(Triumph S400)
  • Location: UK
Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2025, 10:15:12 AM »
Ouch! Nasty. I'd be questioning the yokes straightness too.

Circa £350 for stanchions alone.
 :popcorn:
« Last Edit: May 25, 2025, 10:20:39 AM by DoubleGuzzi »
Nearly natural progression.. SS50, Z200, Z250B, Z400J, (H100), GT750, K100, ZR1100, 900 Trident, 955 Sprint ST, (ZR550, M600), 900 ST, (B750), V7III CS, (V50II).

Offline Dukedesmo

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 597
  • Location: England
Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2025, 11:05:19 AM »
I think that needs more investigation, I'd be surprised if there's not more damage elsewhere, maybe the headstock/frame?


Good luck.
Le Mans II
Ducati 916
Ducati M900

Offline The-Guzzi

  • New Egg
  • *
  • Posts: 5
Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2025, 11:10:29 AM »
I think that needs more investigation, I'd be surprised if there's not more damage elsewhere, maybe the headstock/frame?


Good luck.
guzzi dealer said just needs forks and wheel and new exhaust but rather put aftermarket exhaust and tune it then pay 3400$ for new oem exhaust

Online Dave Swanson

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 4407
  • Northern Illinois USA
Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2025, 11:33:16 AM »
I agree that the triple trees are most likely bent also.  It would not be prudent of a dealer to determine if the head stock is true without disassembling the front end to perform proper measurements.  If they made this assumption without proper analysis, my trust factor would be very much diminished. 

Dave Swanson - Northern IL
1935 GTS
1968 V700
1973 V7 Sport
1974 Eldo
1974 Police Eldo
1976 Convert
1977 Lemans 1.2
1980 T3 California
1993 1000S - Sparklehorse
1998 V11 EV HDM
2004 V11S - Eraldo-ized
2016 Griso SE - Beetle-ized
2021 V7-850 Stone Centenario
2022 V85TT
2023 V100S

MGNOC L-780

Online Kiwi_Roy

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 10059
  • Location: New Westminster British Columbia, Canada
Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2025, 02:35:05 PM »
17 V7III Special
76 Convert

Moto Guzzi - making electricians out of riders since March 15 1921

Online Cam3512

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 6676
Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2025, 03:58:04 PM »
Ok, I’ll ask.  Did you hit a tree?
Cam in NJ
'67 Stornello Scrambler
'71 Ambo Police
'74 V7 Sport
‘20 V85TT

http://mgnocnj.forumotion.com

Offline The-Guzzi

  • New Egg
  • *
  • Posts: 5
Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2025, 04:54:15 PM »
I agree that the triple trees are most likely bent also.  It would not be prudent of a dealer to determine if the head stock is true without disassembling the front end to perform proper measurements.  If they made this assumption without proper analysis, my trust factor would be very much diminished.
i think ill just buy new triple tree and mybee try and find some used forks in good condition

Online Dave Swanson

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 4407
  • Northern Illinois USA
Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2025, 06:07:21 PM »
Damage such as this would quite often result in an insurance write off.  How close is this to being a total loss?
« Last Edit: May 25, 2025, 09:11:45 PM by Dave Swanson »
Dave Swanson - Northern IL
1935 GTS
1968 V700
1973 V7 Sport
1974 Eldo
1974 Police Eldo
1976 Convert
1977 Lemans 1.2
1980 T3 California
1993 1000S - Sparklehorse
1998 V11 EV HDM
2004 V11S - Eraldo-ized
2016 Griso SE - Beetle-ized
2021 V7-850 Stone Centenario
2022 V85TT
2023 V100S

MGNOC L-780

Online Perazzimx14

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 6200
Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2025, 07:08:59 PM »
Damage such as this would quite often result in an insurance write off.  How close it this to being a total loss?

It would all depend on if the bike was insured and/or and insurance claim was made. If this were one of my bikes having full coverage and if a claim was filed the bike would be a total loss. Insurance companies don’t typically fool with frame/structural damage, no matter how minor.
« Last Edit: May 26, 2025, 06:44:47 AM by Perazzimx14 »
2021 Moto Guzzi V85TT Guardia D'onore
2017 V7 III Carbon Dark #0008 of 1921
2017 Road Glide Special
2020 Kawasaki KLX300SM
2016 Suzuki Van Van 200 AKA Honda Trail 125 killer
2008 Harley Davidson Softail Custom

Online Moparnut72

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 2773
  • Location: Quincy California
Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2025, 07:16:29 PM »
And if you did repair it you would be stuck with a salvage title severely reducing the value of the bike.
kk
Mopar or Nocar
2023 V100 Navale
2019 V7lll Special
MGNOC #24053
Amiga computer shop owner: "Americans are great consumers but terrible shoppers".

Offline nc43bsa

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 1409
  • Location: Mooresville NC
Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2025, 08:19:43 PM »
That'll buff out.   :grin:
1990 MilleGT

Offline The-Guzzi

  • New Egg
  • *
  • Posts: 5
Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2025, 09:55:46 PM »
Has anyone seen any full fork setups for sale recently been searching night and day

Offline John A

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 5273
  • No way to slow down...
  • Location: Hager city ,western WI
Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2025, 01:12:07 AM »
Check especially the lower bearing cup on the triple tree. That will usually deform before the forks bend.
John
MGNOC L-471
It is easier to fool people than it is to convince them that they have been fooled-Mark Twain
99 Bassa, sidecar
02 Stone
84 V65C
15 F3S Spyder

Offline Dukedesmo

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 597
  • Location: England
Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2025, 04:07:07 AM »
As above, I don't know about the US but here in the UK, if claimed through insurance, I'm fairly certain that would be a write-off - insurance companies don't take any chances with that kind of damage.


That said, we all know that ins. cos often write things off for minimal damage as they can recoup good money from the salvage and so it may be a straightforward fix if the frame isn't bent or cracked but I'd want the entire front end off for a proper check. 
Le Mans II
Ducati 916
Ducati M900

Online Dave Swanson

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 4407
  • Northern Illinois USA
Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2025, 03:24:35 PM »
Has anyone seen any full fork setups for sale recently been searching night and day

The lack of availability on the used market is due to the fact that no one replaces a perfectly good front end on a V85TT.  Wrecked units are taken over by insurance and salvage companies, and guess what will be the most common damage on a wrecked bike...

Finding a good take off front end will be in the same category as finding unicorn dung. 

Belly up to the bar (Guzzi parts counter) and try not to get light headed.   :wink:
Dave Swanson - Northern IL
1935 GTS
1968 V700
1973 V7 Sport
1974 Eldo
1974 Police Eldo
1976 Convert
1977 Lemans 1.2
1980 T3 California
1993 1000S - Sparklehorse
1998 V11 EV HDM
2004 V11S - Eraldo-ized
2016 Griso SE - Beetle-ized
2021 V7-850 Stone Centenario
2022 V85TT
2023 V100S

MGNOC L-780

Online Huzo

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 13777
  • Location: Creswick Australia
Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2025, 07:04:00 PM »
Son of a mongoose…!
How did you manage that ? With the force required to do that, you will have to properly check the trueness of the front wheel and as Perrazimx said, the integrity of the outers. Only putting them in a lathe with a dial gauge will do and bear in mind there can be cracks introduced in the castings that are indiscernible to the naked eye.
The components MUST be checked, but you may be pleasantly surprised.

Online rocker59

  • Global Moderator
  • Gaggle Hero
  • *
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 24220
  • "diplomatico di moto"
  • Location: NW Arkansas
Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2025, 08:01:36 AM »

I'm going to say there is a near 100% chance the steering head and other frame parts are tweaked.  This is a total loss.

V85TTs are sold in the hundreds.  Rare machines. The chances of finding used V85TT fork parts is very close to zero%.  New replacement parts will be $,$$$$ expensive.

If you do replace the bent fork tubes, there is a near 100% chance the bike will be squirrelly going down the road.

This bike is a total loss.
Michael T.
Aux Arcs de Akansea
2004 California EV Touring II
"Do what you can, with what you have, where you are." - Theodore Roosevelt

Offline Dirk_S

  • www.dirkshearer.com
  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 1938
  • Doodler of doodles
    • www.DirkShearer.com
  • Location: Portland, Maine, U.S.
Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2025, 08:10:06 AM »
I bought a V7 III via salvage auction that had bent forks and wheel from an accident. When I brought it home, I inspected the frame with my untrained eye, but I’ve also had a bike shop look it over, giving it a thumbs up. I installed new forks—first a set of V7 40mm forks and then these NTX 650 forks. Bike rides fine. What exactly should I be concerned about? Is there damage that is hard to spot?
Current: '18 Guzzi V7 III Rough, '17 Guzzi V9 Bobber, ‘78 BMW R80/7, 1986 Sputnik sidecar

Previous: '16 Guzzi V7 II Stone, ‘15 Ural Gear Up, '11 Suzuki TU250X, ‘86 Guzzi V65 Lario, '78/‘80 Honda CX500, '77 Kawasaki KZ400 Special

Online n3303j

  • Ron Cichowski
  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 1809
  • Location: Eastern Massachusetts
Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2025, 08:40:29 AM »
Quick test I do if I replaced bent front forks is to measure the wheelbase. If the measured dimension matches the published specifications chances are the head tube is in its original position. Second would be string and level to see if both wheels are parallel vertically and horizontally.
'98 MG V11 EV
'96 URAL SPORTSMAN
'77 MG 850T3 FB

Online DoubleGuzzi

  • Gaggle Mentor
  • ****
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 345
  • '08 750Breva; '19 V7III CS; '79 V50;(Triumph S400)
  • Location: UK
Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2025, 09:41:29 AM »
The chances of finding used V85TT fork parts is very close to zero%. 
Half the battle:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/186994687076
Not cheap though cheaper than new!

Check over for any peripheral damage and convince yourself it's worth the effort/expense..
Fork tubes:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/316032124459
Replacement innards (most of them):
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/362891217613
« Last Edit: May 27, 2025, 09:46:13 AM by DoubleGuzzi »
Nearly natural progression.. SS50, Z200, Z250B, Z400J, (H100), GT750, K100, ZR1100, 900 Trident, 955 Sprint ST, (ZR550, M600), 900 ST, (B750), V7III CS, (V50II).

Online Cam3512

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 6676
Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
« Reply #25 on: May 27, 2025, 09:49:04 AM »
That’s what insurance is for.  Pay the deductible and get a new bike.
Cam in NJ
'67 Stornello Scrambler
'71 Ambo Police
'74 V7 Sport
‘20 V85TT

http://mgnocnj.forumotion.com

Online Moparnut72

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 2773
  • Location: Quincy California
Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
« Reply #26 on: May 27, 2025, 10:00:57 AM »
That’s what insurance is for.  Pay the deductible and get a new bike.

That is what I was going to say. If not insured with full coverage, just buy a new bike and part this one out to recover as much as you can. A few years ago I bought a used Harley from a dealer that was lost in a fire less than six months later. I figured I was going to take a hosing but the insurance company made me whole including taxes and registration. I know how much most of us hate insurance companies for obvious reasons but Progressive was great so I always give them a shout out and stay with them.
kk
Mopar or Nocar
2023 V100 Navale
2019 V7lll Special
MGNOC #24053
Amiga computer shop owner: "Americans are great consumers but terrible shoppers".

Offline Dirk_S

  • www.dirkshearer.com
  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 1938
  • Doodler of doodles
    • www.DirkShearer.com
  • Location: Portland, Maine, U.S.
Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
« Reply #27 on: May 27, 2025, 10:28:26 AM »
Half the battle:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/186994687076
Not cheap though cheaper than new!

And the other half, a hair cheaper:

https://ebay.us/m/u2pPN4
Current: '18 Guzzi V7 III Rough, '17 Guzzi V9 Bobber, ‘78 BMW R80/7, 1986 Sputnik sidecar

Previous: '16 Guzzi V7 II Stone, ‘15 Ural Gear Up, '11 Suzuki TU250X, ‘86 Guzzi V65 Lario, '78/‘80 Honda CX500, '77 Kawasaki KZ400 Special

 

20 Ounce Stainless Steel Double Insulated Tumbler
Buy a quality tumbler and support the forum at the same time!
Better than a YETI! BPA and Lead free.
Advertise Here