First ride on new 26 V7 Sport

[Bulldog9]

Yes it is a bit heavier than the V7lll. It feels more stable and planted in the turns. It also rides better, the rear shocks are new and look more substantial than those on0 the lll. The T120 is probably about 30 lbs heavier than the 850. I didn't look up the exact numbers. To be honest it isn't as stiff as my Mandello but my Mandello had the standard suspension not he Olins. Overall I am very happy with the bike.
kk

Guzzi also adjusted and increased frame dimensions and rigidity from the V7ii to V7iii, and then again for the V7 850. Not sure if they made additional changes to the V7 Sport, but all this increases the weight and sense of feeling planted. 

[Rons]

Guzzi also adjusted and increased frame dimensions and rigidity from the V7ii to V7iii, and then again for the V7 850. Not sure if they made additional changes to the V7 Sport, but all this increases the weight and sense of feeling planted.

I do notice the weight on the V7 Sport when I have to move it around the garage. It feels heavier than my Speed Twin 1200 coming off the side stand. Google tells me the ST is 476 and the  V7 Sport is 485
Once underway, they both feel much lighter.

[Kev m]

I do notice the weight on the V7 Sport when I have to move it around the garage. It feels heavier than my Speed Twin 1200 coming off the side stand. Google tells me the ST is 476 and the  V7 Sport is 485
Once underway, they both feel much lighter.

Under a 10# difference isn't what you're feeling (unless you're fooling yourself). There must be a difference in how that weight is carried which is much more likely to be felt. Like how my 750# RK felt lighter then my much taller 650# R1100RS coming off the stand.


Personally I didn't feel any appreciable difference standing up a V7 Sport the other day immediately after coming off my V7III.

[MikeP996]

"Under a 10# difference isn't what you're feeling (unless you're fooling yourself). There must be a difference in how that weight is carried"

Or the brakes are dragging OR tire pressure is low!  (been there on both)

[blu guzz]

It felt pretty light compared to my Eldo 1400. Coming off the side stand, that bike is some heavy lifting.  In comparison the V7 Sport felt like a little dirt bike. Perspective.

[Rons]

Under a 10# difference isn't what you're feeling (unless you're fooling yourself). There must be a difference in how that weight is carried which is much more likely to be felt. Like how my 750# RK felt lighter then my much taller 650# R1100RS coming off the stand.


Personally I didn't feel any appreciable difference standing up a V7 Sport the other day immediately after coming off my V7III.

Why would I be “fooling myself” ? I have no motivation to exaggerate the weight of either bike. The V7 Sport looks pretty svelte, so it’s surprising that it feels a bit heavy when moving it around. It certainly doesn’t feel like a close to 500 pound bike once you are on it and moving.

Agree that the ST probably carries its weight differently and that accounts for the slightly easier to push around feeling. Parallel twin bs a 90 degree twin hanging the cylinders out in the breeze.

[Rons]

"Under a 10# difference isn't what you're feeling (unless you're fooling yourself). There must be a difference in how that weight is carried"

Or the brakes are dragging OR tire pressure is low!  (been there on both)

Checked all that. Surprised that MG calls for 36 psi front and rear. Feels great on the road so they know what they are doing. LOL.

[Rons]

It felt pretty light compared to my Eldo 1400. Coming off the side stand, that bike is some heavy lifting.  In comparison the V7 Sport felt like a little dirt bike. Perspective.

Absolutely! It’s all what you’re used to.

[Kev m]

Why would I be “fooling myself” ? I have no motivation to exaggerate the weight of either bike. The V7 Sport looks pretty svelte, so it’s surprising that it feels a bit heavy when moving it around. It certainly doesn’t feel like a close to 500 pound bike once you are on it and moving.

Agree that the ST probably carries its weight differently and that accounts for the slightly easier to push around feeling. Parallel twin bs a 90 degree twin hanging the cylinders out in the breeze.

Because unless you're a 95# weakling or are savant level sensitive to weight it's highly unlikely you can discern a 10# difference in a bike coming off a side stand or paddling it around a parking lot.

What I'm suggesting you are ACTUALLY much more likely to be feeling are other differences in the chassis like center of gravity which can dramatically affect those perceptions such as in the example I mentioned.

I see you understand the point in your second paragraph. That's all I'm saying, it's not meant as an insult or anything.

[DoubleGuzzi]

CoG, rolling resistance, headstock height, seat height, rider (attitude,) health, stature and body mass all play a part in weight perception.
The rider to bike weight proportion can be significant: for a 75Kg rider, 30Kg of extra bike weight is MASSIVE. (Not applicable in this particular case.)

[bad Chad]

All that, and the fact that Guzzi seems to build their bikes with side stands that put the bike in a rather exaggerated lean, thus making it a bit more challenging to begin.

[DoubleGuzzi]

All that, and the fact that Guzzi seems to build their bikes with side stands that put the bike in a rather exaggerated lean, thus making it a bit more challenging to begin.

That's to counteract all that top heavy baggage (tank bag & giant top boxes) that seem to be so popular for long distance touring. 
Actually, after so many decades, I've only recently found out that if you turn the 'bars to the right, it is easier to lift a bike from the side/prop/kick stand. Doesn't apply to a Triumph Speed 400 'cos its stand is too long and vertical in the first place!

[Moparnut72]

My Bonneville was so close to vertical on the side stand that it limited the places where I could park. Sometimes I had to turn the bike around. I appreciate that MG lets the bike lean over more but too much on some models. My V100 was one of those, I put a plate under the foot so it would stand up a little straighter. I think I may add one to my 850, not as thick though. I haven't decided 100% yet. One time in the showroom I tried lifting an MGX off the side stand. Didn't finish, too much for me.
kk

[Kev m]

Actually, after so many decades, I've only recently found out that if you turn the bears to the right, it is easier to lift a bike from the side/prop/kick stand. Doesn't apply to a Triumph Speed 400 'cos its stand is too long and vertical in the first place!

I think I've told this story before, but in case those in the back missed it ...

One day some years ago I hopped off my Road King and hopped on one of my V7's almost throwing it to the ground on the other side by the way I took it off the side stand.

I had gotten used to kinda throwing my weight against the Road King using my left thigh as I pulled the bike off the stand.

The V7 being literally 1/2 the weight of the King and trying the same method with the same, uh zest, wasn't needed or recommended.

I can't think of any bike in my garage right now at in any way shape or form "heavy" and the V7 Sport I failed to purchase today was the same.

[DoubleGuzzi]

I can't think of any bike in my garage right now at in any way shape or form "heavy" and the V7 Sport I failed to purchase today was the same.

The Carbon is borderline "garage handling" for me but it's more to do with relative bulk and the previously mentioned footpeg arrangement. Why do I keep viewing ads for V7 (I) bikes? Would still be interested in weighbridge measurements comparing the two. (If I could finally sell the Breva and the V50II,then I might stretch to a V7I - hmm.) Much as I'd like the V7 Sport, especially for the extra horses, I gotta be realistic.

[Kev m]

The Carbon is borderline "garage handling" for me but it's more to do with relative bulk and the previously mentioned footpeg arrangement. Why do I keep viewing ads for V7 (I) bikes? Would still be interested in weighbridge measurements comparing the two. (If I could finally sell the Breva and the V50II,then I might stretch to a V7I - hmm.) Much as I'd like the V7 Sport, especially for the extra horses, I gotta be realistic.

It's a little far to go for a test ride, but if you're ever in the area and still thinking about that question you could satisfy your curiosity in an afternoon.




Yes my Carbon is the "heaviest" bike there on paper. But again, "It ain't nothun' but a thang'!"

[Rons]

I think I've told this story before, but in case those in the back missed it ...

One day some years ago I hopped off my Road King and hopped on one of my V7's almost throwing it to the ground on the other side by the way I took it off the side stand.

I had gotten used to kinda throwing my weight against the Road King using my left thigh as I pulled the bike off the stand.

The V7 being literally 1/2 the weight of the King and trying the same method with the same, uh zest, wasn't needed or recommended.

I can't think of any bike in my garage right now at in any way shape or form "heavy" and the V7 Sport I failed to purchase today was the same.

It’s all what you’re used to. My Ducati and my air cooled Bonneville were both lighter than the ST and the V7Sport. Obviously, my Trail125 is almost bicycle weight…LOL

[DoubleGuzzi]

^ Will ya just check out those 'bikes in the luxury suite - better than my house!

[Kev m]

^ Will ya just check out those 'bikes in the luxury suite - better than my house!

 

Like me, they do lead a pampered life... 

[bad Chad]

Yeah, but it looks like he probably needs a few more helmets.

[Kev m]

Yeah, but it looks like he probably needs a few more helmets.

 

Only 4-5 of those are mine. There are 3 other people here (Jenn and the kids).