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forzen clutch ngc
« on: March 16, 2026, 06:32:59 PM »
 You know those projects that just sat and sat for some reasons? Well that's my 09 KLX250-351, this winter I got back to putting it back together after a couple of years and fixing it's issues it had, and now that it is back together the clutch is stuck and will not disengage. I tried putting a strap on the clutch lever engaging it overnight, but still stuck, next I lifted the rear up and started it then put it into second (first gear it just stalled) gave the motor some rpm's but the motor is still stuck. Any other tricks before i dig into it?
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Re: forzen cultch ngc
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2026, 06:55:18 PM »
When the "cultch" stuck on my XT500, I started the engine in neutral, drifted/pushed the bike downhill and jammed it into second gear. Then, pulled in the clutch lever and vigorously twisted the throttle on and off. It broke free after a just a few on/off cycles.
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Re: forzen cultch ngc
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2026, 07:35:35 PM »
I'll give it a try. Thanks.
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Re: forzen cultch ngc
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2026, 08:43:45 PM »
‘Sounds uncomfortable…. :popcorn:

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Re: forzen cultch ngc
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2026, 08:49:50 PM »
Put it in the highest gear it has and start it in gear with the back wheel off the ground on a soft surface.
With the engine at 2,000 rpm, hold on to your hat with the lever in and dump it onto the spinning wheel, it will either fix it or break something.
A better way is to pull the plates out, wash them, make sure there are no indentations on the basket teeth and throw the whole shooting match back in…
That’ll work.

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Re: forzen cultch ngc
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2026, 12:09:45 AM »
Put it in the highest gear it has and start it in gear with the back wheel off the ground on a soft surface.
With the engine at 2,000 rpm, hold on to your hat with the lever in and dump it onto the spinning wheel, it will either fix it or break something.
A better way is to pull the plates out, wash them, make sure there are no indentations on the basket teeth and throw the whole shooting match back in…
That’ll work.








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Re: forzen cultch ngc
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2026, 07:13:34 AM »
‘Sounds uncomfortable…. :popcorn:

I'm not sure I even have a cultch....

If I do, I hope it will never gets stuck....
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Re: forzen cultch ngc
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2026, 07:17:31 AM »
Put it in the highest gear you can, sit on the bike, pull in the clutch, and simply rock it back and forth a few times.

The real question is how did that British/Beta/Sherco cultch end up in a Japanese bike?

Drain the oil and fill it with kerosene and let it soak.

For peace of mind, the thing to do is to remove the clutch cover and disassemble the clutch anyway, so you might as well start there.
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Re: forzen cultch ngc
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2026, 07:20:07 AM »
Put it in the highest gear it has and start it in gear with the back wheel off the ground on a soft surface.
With the engine at 2,000 rpm, hold on to your hat with the lever in and dump it onto the spinning wheel, it will either fix it or break something.

This sounds like the advice I would get from a relative who doesn't like me much... and who needs some video to post on the internet....
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Re: forzen clutch ngc
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2026, 12:25:53 PM »
 Always proof read before hitting post......
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Re: forzen clutch ngc
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2026, 06:54:16 PM »
 Took the clutch out in under 15 minutes! Never did that with a Guzzi. Plates where pretty dry, but the plates are under spec's and one of them is blue so time to get a new clutch.

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Re: forzen clutch ngc
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2026, 07:16:36 PM »
Took the clutch out in under 15 minutes! Never did that with a Guzzi. Plates where pretty dry, but the plates are under spec's and one of them is blue so time to get a new clutch.



Make sure you soak your friction plates in oil for several hours before installing.   Some will say 5 minutes is enough.
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Re: forzen clutch ngc
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2026, 08:26:12 PM »
 Yup, done this before. Works better then the oil soaked clutch I had on my T I had back in the 80's.
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Re: forzen clutch ngc
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2026, 06:50:37 AM »
Always proof read before hitting post......

Been there done that.

I see your "cultch" has been fixed.

How about the "forzen" part?

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Re: forzen clutch ngc
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2026, 12:06:46 PM »
 Ordered a new clutch kit. Under specs.
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Re: forzen clutch ngc
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2026, 06:49:44 PM »
Ordered a new clutch kit. Under specs.

good deal.  It is such a simple job, that it would be foolish not to fix it properly.
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Re: forzen clutch ngc
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2026, 09:08:31 PM »
How about the "forzen" part?
For some reason I keep thinking it's a manufacturer's name.  :huh:
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