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Re: California 1400?
« Reply #750 on: May 31, 2011, 08:01:57 AM »
With apologies to some of my fellow Guzzisitis, I'm not much for cruisers.  However, that is really, really nice.  I, too, would like to see a touring version... and a power cruiser version.
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Re: California 1400?
« Reply #751 on: May 31, 2011, 08:49:04 AM »
My biggest issue will be where to buy one, and get any kind of parts or service. I have done business with Harper's for some parts, but 500 miles is a bit far to drive for someone to diagnose things that are beyond me. 
I haven't had the best of luck with dealers. My first one was only 70 miles away in Tipton, IN, but he went out of business in 2005. The next closest was in Louisville, where I bought my Norge in 2007. But he was gone by 2009. Then it was Mishawaka, IN, and they are gone, and so it goes.
I am really stoked about the 1400, especially if it has the HP to go with it. Here in the land of neverending hd, being different means trying not to hurt anyone's feelings when they can't keep up.

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Re: California 1400?
« Reply #752 on: May 31, 2011, 08:57:34 AM »
My biggest issue will be where to buy one, and get any kind of parts or service. I have done business with Harper's for some parts, but 500 miles is a bit far to drive for someone to diagnose things that are beyond me. 
I haven't had the best of luck with dealers. My first one was only 70 miles away in Tipton, IN, but he went out of business in 2005. The next closest was in Louisville, where I bought my Norge in 2007. But he was gone by 2009. Then it was Mishawaka, IN, and they are gone, and so it goes.
I am really stoked about the 1400, especially if it has the HP to go with it. Here in the land of neverending hd, being different means trying not to hurt anyone's feelings when they can't keep up.

Hmm yet another Indiana guy that I don't know.. where are you located?
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Re: California 1400?
« Reply #753 on: May 31, 2011, 12:37:04 PM »
My biggest issue will be where to buy one, and get any kind of parts or service. I have done business with Harper's for some parts, but 500 miles is a bit far to drive for someone to diagnose things that are beyond me. 
I haven't had the best of luck with dealers. My first one was only 70 miles away in Tipton, IN, but he went out of business in 2005. The next closest was in Louisville, where I bought my Norge in 2007. But he was gone by 2009. Then it was Mishawaka, IN, and they are gone, and so it goes.
I am really stoked about the 1400, especially if it has the HP to go with it. Here in the land of neverending hd, being different means trying not to hurt anyone's feelings when they can't keep up.

Hmm yet another Indiana guy that I don't know.. where are you located?

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Re: California 1400?
« Reply #754 on: May 31, 2011, 07:56:36 PM »
Has there been any further information on the California 1400? Some crappy pics appeared last February with no real info on specifics. It then it fell of the radar. Has MG thrown in the towel already?

It will be released along side of the Ippogriffo! ;D ;D

Actually, I like the bike, a lot!  It prolly has a quiet engine.

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Re: California 1400?
« Reply #755 on: May 31, 2011, 10:20:21 PM »
  I've liked it ever since the first pictures were released last winter.  It should run pretty well.  Hopefully Piaggio will keep the retail cost down and we can get a dealer here in SW Ohio area.........I'm not holding my breath tho !!!   ::)  The Kid

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Re: California 1400?
« Reply #756 on: May 31, 2011, 10:34:41 PM »
Any rumors/reports/uneducated guesses on what kind of power the new engine will turn out?

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Re: California 1400?
« Reply #757 on: May 31, 2011, 10:48:38 PM »
Any rumors/reports/uneducated guesses on what kind of power the new engine will turn out?

THE answer is 42

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Re: California 1400?
« Reply #758 on: June 01, 2011, 05:28:53 AM »
If it comes to Australia, it'll be at least $25k
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Thinking nearer to 30k...
But could get a few bums on seats in mining areas here
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California 1400
« Reply #759 on: August 08, 2011, 04:38:00 PM »
I am no doubt the last person on this group to see them, but just stumbled across the photos of the new California 1400.  Is it just me or does it look too 'Japanese' to be a Guzzi?  Sure the current California Vintage uses the old 1100 engine, and sure it looks like an old CHIPS bike, but to me at least, that's part of the charm.  After all, think of it as the best Bagger Harley never made, one with a great suspension, brakes and build quality.  The new bike lacks its looks and any semblence of charm, IMHO.  Glad I bought one of the last new in crate Vintages, if this is what next year's model looks like, Guzzi is simply joining a pack of modern designs done better elsewhere.

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Re: California 1400
« Reply #760 on: August 08, 2011, 04:57:33 PM »
Its fugly.

I like the classic engine in a tonti... but they alredy did that. Lets see what they come up with next... I am only worried it wont be a financial disaster for guzzi.
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Re: California 1400
« Reply #761 on: August 08, 2011, 05:05:57 PM »
Yes, tank looks like an old Goldwing and side covers look strait off a Kawi KZ900.
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Re: California 1400
« Reply #762 on: August 08, 2011, 05:11:29 PM »
I think the California 1400 looks awesome and I'm very anxious to see it. Hopefully it'll still come to market.

All the best,

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Re: California 1400
« Reply #763 on: August 08, 2011, 05:16:06 PM »
I think the California 1400 looks awesome and I'm very anxious to see it. Hopefully it'll still come to market.

All the best,

Mark

I agree I love the decoish lines. I think it captures the spirit of Guzzi while still reaching out to a larger public. Can't wait to see the specs on the 1400cc engine.

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Re: California 1400
« Reply #764 on: August 08, 2011, 05:32:12 PM »
Okay, guess I'm in the minority here.  Dave

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Re: California 1400
« Reply #765 on: August 08, 2011, 05:44:20 PM »
You might not be in the minority, only been a handfull of responses.   I like it so far, really looking forward to see what the production model will look like.   I bet is we find out at the big euro shows this fall.
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Re: California 1400
« Reply #766 on: August 08, 2011, 05:45:05 PM »
Why not wait until the production ready item is shown before making any judgements? Not a lot you can really tell for sure from one grainy, poorly lit photo of a prototype...
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Re: California 1400
« Reply #767 on: August 08, 2011, 06:16:25 PM »
He's right, let's wait and see.  I think this could be a Road King Killer!
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Re: California 1400
« Reply #768 on: August 08, 2011, 06:18:32 PM »
When  they make it I will believe it.

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Re: California 1400
« Reply #769 on: August 08, 2011, 06:37:53 PM »
Bagger Harley?  Is that something new from Harley?
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Re: California 1400
« Reply #770 on: August 08, 2011, 06:43:37 PM »
Think the first one they built was in 36.  Dave

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Re: California 1400
« Reply #771 on: August 08, 2011, 06:51:13 PM »
I gave up and couldn't wait any longer...So I bought the new 8v Norge....(white) The fastest color so far....LOL... I look forward to their success....

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Re: California 1400
« Reply #772 on: August 08, 2011, 07:17:26 PM »
Bagger Harley?  Is that something new from Harley?
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Those Harley guys are so cute with the lingo and doo-rags and all.  That's when I learned what a "cager" was.   :D

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BMW chasing after Guzzi,... again?
« Reply #773 on: August 19, 2011, 04:43:48 PM »
Well, it seems like the uber bike company is once again trying to keep up with Moto Guzzi.   

As is well know around these parts, Moto Guzzi showed off a prototype totally new 1400cc liquid cooled motor and chassie to their dealer network back in January.http://www.motoguzzicalifornia.com/2011/02/california-1400/

Now spy shots are out of an apparent liquid cooled BMW boxer!    Ah, the more things change, the more they stay the same!   Good luck BMW, your gonna need it to keep up with Una Storia Italiana
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/616/10853/Motorcycle-Article/Spy-Shot--2012-Water-Cooled-BMW-R1200GS.aspx
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Re: BMW chasing after Guzzi,... again?
« Reply #774 on: August 19, 2011, 06:24:08 PM »
Chasing?  I don't think so.  BMW has had wasserboxers on the drawing board for years.  Probably waiting for the right time to gradually introduce the air and air/oil cooled riders to it.  And of course, the K bikes (flying bricks) have been water cooled since their introduction in 1983.

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Re: BMW chasing after Guzzi,... again?
« Reply #775 on: August 19, 2011, 08:16:21 PM »
Great - an even heavier GS. Oh, to have had the foresight to buy and keep an 85/100GS back in the day...
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Re: BMW chasing after Guzzi,... again?
« Reply #776 on: August 19, 2011, 09:48:53 PM »
Water-cooled???  It will never catch on.  :P

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Re: BMW chasing after Guzzi,... again?
« Reply #777 on: August 19, 2011, 10:13:40 PM »
Great - an even heavier GS. Oh, to have had the foresight to buy and keep an 85/100GS back in the day...
That's what I thought .... in 1991.  And she's still a good ride in 2011!

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Re: BMW chasing after Guzzi,... again?
« Reply #778 on: August 19, 2011, 10:16:27 PM »
I saw this badboy in Germany, K1200R, I think,


and this one,




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Re: BMW chasing after Guzzi,... again?
« Reply #779 on: August 19, 2011, 10:36:06 PM »
I'm talking about the iconic motors of both companies guys!   Not the flash in the pan, motor de jor.
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