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youcanrunnaked · « **Reply #2280 on:** September 21, 2012, 03:33:34 PM »

From a marketing standpoint, it would make sense for Moto Guzzi to price the nuovo California in line with their current big block offerings in the U.S.A.

In my mind, that means the base model should be priced like the Griso 8V SE ($12,500), the deluxe model should be priced like the Stelvio NTX ($15,500), and the mid-range model should be priced somewhere in the middle (say, $14,000).

Those prices would be in line with the Euro pricing before VAT. In addition, they would undercut the competition in this country -- hopefully enough to get people's attention.

At $15,500, I can imagine a prospective Harley or Victory customer looking at the California Ambassador, and thinking that it's an excellent value. Maybe that, and some favorable reviews in the motoring press, can overcome what are likely to be some of the objections to purchase. ("Moto who?" "Where are the dealers?" "It's Italian; parts must cost a fortune and will be impossible to get.")

canuck750 · « **Reply #2281 on:** September 21, 2012, 03:51:05 PM »

http://blog.motorcycle.com/2012/03/21/design/designer-galluzzi-discusses-the-new-moto-guzzi-california-1400-video/

The headlight looks like an Ambo police dash. Can't say I am a fan of it.

Jim

rocker59 · « **Reply #2282 on:** October 02, 2012, 11:36:22 AM »

Nero style:

Kind of reminds me of a 1960s Lincoln Continental...

Sheepdog · « **Reply #2283 on:** October 02, 2012, 11:45:26 AM »

Do you suppose the panniers open toward the front?

Kentktk · « **Reply #2284 on:** October 02, 2012, 01:54:59 PM »

I like it ;-T

bad Chad · « **Reply #2285 on:** October 02, 2012, 04:09:52 PM »

Foul! Look at the two pics. The two bikes are in exactly the same spot, the shadows are exactly the same. There are not two bikes. There is one bike, and a photoshop all black bs pic.

Kev m · « **Reply #2286 on:** October 02, 2012, 04:13:34 PM »

Who claimed it was anything but a photo-chop?

bad Chad · « **Reply #2287 on:** October 02, 2012, 04:26:11 PM »

It's a pretty good photoshop, except for the front wheel looks a bit garish. Know body said, look here is what it looks like in Nero that I photo shopped.

I assumed it was been passed off as the real deal, doubt I'm alone, but I could be.

rocker59 · « **Reply #2288 on:** October 02, 2012, 04:34:55 PM »

It's just a photo I snagged from Vintage Motorcycle Online. I didn't take time learn if it was PS, or not.

It looks photoshopped to me, as there are no OEM whitewalls in those sizes, and they don't look like "porta-walls"...

I just liked the look, and it reminded me of that '69 Continental I'd recently seen.

youcanrunnaked · « **Reply #2289 on:** October 02, 2012, 05:11:27 PM »

Relax. It's called a design exercise. Enjoy it for what it is.

If you really want one, download the image and send it to Piaggio Group with a polite note. You never know....

bad Chad · « **Reply #2290 on:** October 02, 2012, 06:06:33 PM »

No need to relax, no one is worked up. It's not a design exercise, it's a photoshop paint job. :)

youcanrunnaked · « **Reply #2291 on:** October 02, 2012, 06:31:05 PM »

Quote from: bad Chad on October 02, 2012, 06:06:33 PM

It's not a design exercise, it's a photoshop paint job. :)

Are the two mutually exclusive? This is news to me.

Mike A. · « **Reply #2292 on:** October 03, 2012, 05:55:35 PM »

this looks like my kind of machine.......the next new bike may be one of these (job security willing!!)

CS

rocker59 · « **Reply #2293 on:** October 03, 2012, 05:57:50 PM »

merged

harrytief · « **Reply #2294 on:** October 03, 2012, 08:48:24 PM »

My calvin just got nervous

Damnyankee · « **Reply #2295 on:** October 19, 2012, 04:49:05 AM »

While in Mandello at Agostini a new Cali and factory rider showed up ("Sorry Nelson, no photo's"). I have to say that in the flesh the new Cali is very impressive and Veeeeeery big. No photo I've seen does the bike justice and in the black and white color scheme without a shield or bags, it is very nice, not my cup of tea but very nice. I watched the factory rider fishtail the machine down the road, very impressive acceleration and wonderful exhaust note.

Kev m · « **Reply #2296 on:** October 19, 2012, 06:23:49 AM »

Oooh, in the flesh and no pics >:(

Very big eh?

Interesting.

Damnyankee · « **Reply #2297 on:** October 19, 2012, 06:31:17 AM »

Quote from: Kev m on October 19, 2012, 06:23:49 AM

Oooh, in the flesh and no pics >:(

Very big eh?

Interesting.

Huge! I was not allowed to take photo's so ya have to trust me Kev, I did get to touch it though ;D The bags and windscreen ruin the looks of the bike in my opinion. If marketed right here in America, I think it would/could give HD a run for their money. Very modern motorcycle, nice gauge setup, rear tire is massive! :o

Kev m · « **Reply #2298 on:** October 19, 2012, 06:40:51 AM »

Allowed? Was this on a public street?

Well, the DID let you touch it and didn't rush away so that's something.

Can't wait to get some real specs and see one in person.

Damnyankee · « **Reply #2299 on:** October 19, 2012, 06:47:04 AM »

Quote from: Kev m on October 19, 2012, 06:40:51 AM

Allowed? Was this on a public street?

Well, the DID let you touch it and didn't rush away so that's something.

Can't wait to get some real specs and see one in person.

It was in Agostini's shop driveway, I was told to leave my camera at the service desk. Locals in Mandello are well informed about the new Cali and later that afternoon while walking the streets of Mandello I spotted the facory rider on it again hot throttling around Mandello. I decided to respect their wishes and not photograph it. I suspect though that my photo's wouldn't have been any better than what you've already seen on the web, photo's just don't do it justice at all.

Kev m · « **Reply #2300 on:** October 19, 2012, 08:42:30 AM »

No, I get being polite and all... but damn the temptation woulda been.

I think I would have begged just for a picture of me sitting on it... how could they say no?

Avvocato · « **Reply #2301 on:** October 19, 2012, 09:03:53 AM »

When you say it is big, do you mean wide and long? I have been assuming it isn't very tall. How did the ground clearance look?

Any first hand information helps.

Damnyankee · « **Reply #2302 on:** October 19, 2012, 09:52:02 AM »

Quote from: Avvocato on October 19, 2012, 09:03:53 AM

When you say it is big, do you mean wide and long? I have been assuming it isn't very tall. How did the ground clearance look?

Any first hand information helps.

Very low seat height and very wide and very long. The tank is huge but it appears that it would't be in the way of comfort like having to spread your knees. As big as it is, it seems to be rather narrow in the seat area. It had a few too many lights for my taste but I don't know if the extra lights are standard or an option. That said, stripped down to it's bare necessities, it's an awesome looking bike. Cruisers aren't my thing anymore but if I were in the market for one, the new Cali would certainly be at the top of my list, maybe right up there with the Triumph Rocket III, another enormous machine. I like that neither of the two have scrimped on performance.

Avvocato · « **Reply #2303 on:** October 19, 2012, 09:54:55 AM »

Thanks.

rboe · « **Reply #2304 on:** October 19, 2012, 10:36:06 AM »

That is why you have to see a bike in person. In the pictures, the bike, to me, looks better dressed out. Thanks for the update.

Kev m · « **Reply #2305 on:** October 19, 2012, 10:53:41 AM »

WOW, are you saying it's going to be RIII massive in size?

Sheepdog · « **Reply #2306 on:** October 19, 2012, 10:59:45 AM »

I wonder if those new mags will be compatible with Tonti Calis? Likely not with that huge rear tire...

Damnyankee · « **Reply #2307 on:** October 19, 2012, 11:45:43 AM »

Quote from: Kev m on October 19, 2012, 10:53:41 AM

WOW, are you saying it's going to be RIII massive in size?

Pretty damn big Kev.

Damnyankee · « **Reply #2308 on:** October 19, 2012, 11:47:57 AM »

Quote from: Sheepdog on October 19, 2012, 10:59:45 AM

I wonder if those new mags will be compatible with Tonti Calis? Likely not with that huge rear tire...

I've seen 18 wheelers that use smaller wheels ;D I didn't really care for the wheels at first, still not sold on them, personally, I prefer spoked rims over mags except on my Daytona 675.

T in NC · « **Reply #2309 on:** October 21, 2012, 08:29:37 AM »

Haven't heard anything new for awhile.

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