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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2430 on: November 12, 2012, 08:57:24 PM »
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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2431 on: November 13, 2012, 04:25:44 AM »
Now are these 1400s gonna have hydro valves?

What's a hydro valve? I've not heard that term before.
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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2432 on: November 13, 2012, 04:36:24 AM »
What's a hydro valve? I've not heard that term before.

Hydraulicly powered lifters for the valvetrain reduces valve noise (less metal on metal clashing) and should negate the need for valve adjustments.

Guzzi had them on a few Cali models, but stopped after a recall debacle. Cars should have them as standard.... When is the past time you adjusted the valves on your car? ;)

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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2433 on: November 13, 2012, 06:08:44 AM »

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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2434 on: November 13, 2012, 06:24:31 AM »
Hydraulicly powered lifters for the valvetrain reduces valve noise (less metal on metal clashing) and should negate the need for valve adjustments.

Guzzi had them on a few Cali models, but stopped after a recall debacle. Cars should have them as standard.... When is the past time you adjusted the valves on your car? ;)

More relevant is the fact that Harley-Davidson uses hydraulic valve lifters on their engines.  For the non-technically inclined riders (a large and growing part of the cruiser demographic), that's an important feature.

IMO, if you're going to compete with Harley... compete with Harley.  Moto Guzzi has the tech to do a hydro big block.  That ability may have been painfully gained, but it's there, nonetheless.  A shame Piaggio won't re-visit this.
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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2436 on: November 13, 2012, 08:55:07 AM »
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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2437 on: November 13, 2012, 09:52:27 AM »
So in Netherlands we get them in December, no prices yet. Custom comes in middle grey(mercurio) and black.

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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2438 on: November 13, 2012, 10:16:36 AM »
And all california direct from guzzi:

http://california.motoguzzi.com//en
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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2439 on: November 13, 2012, 10:26:24 AM »
And all california direct from guzzi:

http://california.motoguzzi.com//en

Looking good.

I'm liking it more and more...

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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2440 on: November 13, 2012, 10:27:34 AM »
Directly from EICMA.















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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2441 on: November 13, 2012, 11:12:27 AM »
I like it dressed in white.  I like the lady dressed in white too.  Makes a nice accessory for the bike.  I hope I will be able to afford one.

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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2442 on: November 13, 2012, 11:18:44 AM »
Directly from EICMA.



OOOOHHH, that aitting/foot control position looks VERY SIMILAR to the Tonti Cali, no?
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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2444 on: November 13, 2012, 12:57:13 PM »
And all california direct from guzzi:

http://california.motoguzzi.com//en


     With this link and the pictures from the show, the California 1400 looks to be the most successful and complete motorcycle in the history of Moto Guzzi. This link and the pictures from the show are simply awesome. My Harley 883L, CalVin and Valkyrie Interstate are getting very nervous.

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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2445 on: November 13, 2012, 01:36:16 PM »
Will those tail lights survive the DOT in America? Seems to me there is some sort of rule about spacing from the center line and such.
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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2446 on: November 13, 2012, 02:21:18 PM »
Interesting hints at accessories in the Moto Guzzi California web site:

High performance silencers, chrome-plated and machined components, saddles of all types and materials, as well as support and the App which turns an iPhone into a supplementary dashboard to obtain all kinds of navigation, performance and technical data information.

Some form of "anti-theft system" is referred to as standard, but this may only be on the Touring model.
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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2447 on: November 13, 2012, 02:26:28 PM »
Will those tail lights survive the DOT in America? Seems to me there is some sort of rule about spacing from the center line and such.

The turn signals you mean? I dunno. There are a number of bikes in the US with the signals REALLY close to the tail light. I'm not sure that's true, but I guess I could google it.

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AHHH HERE IT IS

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=federal%20motorcycle%20turn%20signal%20standards&source=web&cd=2&sqi=2&ved=0CDQQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nhtsa.gov%2Fcars%2Frules%2Fmaninfo%2Fmcpkg002.pdf&ei=b62iUMLWHs-80AG5vIHwAg&usg=AFQjCNF7F1yGmLHRP5KD71TvyrK1NapCzg



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At or near the front - 1 amber on
each side of the vertical centerline at
the same height, and having a
minimum horizontal separation
distance (centerline of lamps) of 16
inches. Minimum edge to edge
separatio n distance between lamp
and headlamp is 4 inches.
At or near the rear - 1 red or amber
on each side of the vertical
centerline, at the same height and
having a minimum horizontal
separation distance (centerline to
centerline of lamps) of 9 inches.

Minimum edge to edge separation
distance between lamp and tail or
stop lamp is 4 inches, when a single
stop and tail lamp is installed on the
vertical centerline and the turn
signal lamps are red.

IF I'm reading it right this is the part that matters:

- 1 red or amber on each side of the vertical centerline, at the same height and having a minimum horizontal
separation distance (centerline to centerline of lamps) of 9 inches.


I'm guessing the OR part, minimum distacne between lamp and tail or stop lamp doesn't apply because there isn't a SINGLE stop lamp in this design - it's a dual lamp.
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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2448 on: November 13, 2012, 02:27:07 PM »
Some form of "anti-theft system" is referred to as standard, but this may only be on the Touring model.

I betcha they mean a coded key like with the CARC line.
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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2449 on: November 13, 2012, 04:56:59 PM »
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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2450 on: November 13, 2012, 05:09:11 PM »
Will those tail lights survive the DOT in America? Seems to me there is some sort of rule about spacing from the center line and such.



     Are they really much different from the LED V tail lights on some of the Victory's? I think their Vision and Cross Country/Roads models have similar V style rear lights.

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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2451 on: November 13, 2012, 05:11:13 PM »

     Are they really much different from the LED V tail lights on some of the Victory's? I think their Vision and Cross Country/Roads models have similar V style rear lights.

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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2452 on: November 13, 2012, 05:33:29 PM »
Looks like no center or main stand which is a departure from most if not all other Californias. Too bad IMHO

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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2453 on: November 13, 2012, 06:07:45 PM »
A downstate VA Ducati/Moto Guzzi dealer is offering pre orders for Cali 1400 touring....call for price (if you dare).  http://www.redlinemotors.com/default.asp?page=xNewInventory

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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2454 on: November 13, 2012, 06:24:49 PM »
Just got off the phone from the importer. Apparently it uses the 7SM controller like the RSV4. Ride by wire, single TB, traction control, and cruise control among other stuff I've forgotten. Sounds like fun, I can hear the splintering of corn-cob pipes from half a world away!!! ;D

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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2455 on: November 13, 2012, 06:38:25 PM »
Just got off the phone from the importer. Apparently it uses the 7SM controller like the RSV4. Ride by wire, single TB, traction control, and cruise control among other stuff I've forgotten. Sounds like fun, I can hear the splintering of corn-cob pipes from half a world away!!! ;D

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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2456 on: November 13, 2012, 07:05:23 PM »
Just read the article on Cycleworld, hadn't read this before…

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The Moto Guzzi California 1400 will come in two versions: 1) fully equipped Touring; and 2) leaner and more “essential” Custom. The Touring is available in two editions: the rich Ambassador and the super-rich Eldorado, with the latter of the two coming with a large windshield, big saddlebags, a black/white two-tone seat (same as was on the original California of the 1970s) and driving lights. Rather impressive.

Even a little Loop nostalgia goin' on out there.


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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2457 on: November 13, 2012, 07:13:44 PM »
How about a Vetter fairing on the new California, now that would be the bomb.

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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2458 on: November 13, 2012, 07:15:32 PM »
Have not been following this post, so my apologies if this has already been posted - From my Italian penpal in Napoli - http://www.dueruote.it/notizie/speciale-eicma-2012/arrivano-le-california-1400

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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2459 on: November 13, 2012, 09:05:42 PM »
Data overload these last few days. I love it. It looks fresh, new, mean yet refined. Can't wait to see one in person. Sit on Her, Feel her jugs. Wait are we still talking about the Cali?
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