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Yep, and then the howls will come about how it soooo $$$!
Cool bike. I have lots of respect for thier effort.If the bike is less than $25,000, I'll be surprised.
If the bike isn't priced in the Goldilocks' zone the company will be belly up before the economy recovers.... if it ever does ::) They need a bread&butter ride to keep the company going until the flagship model's sales take off. What the Isetta did for BMW. BMW built several post-war cars that were beautiful classics, but too damn pricey for the European economy. They finally came to their senses and bought the production rights for the Isetta from Count Iso, and that funny little egg-shaped car made BMW profitable again. With the possibility of economic recovery being stifled by the fear of $5.00/gal gas prices, Motus should be thinking more Cub than Wing.
I don't know about that. Right now BMW and Ducati sales are up when everything else is down. Rich people still have the $ to spend. :) Your references are for mfg.s looking for gross sales. Motus isn't about that.You wouldn't like to pull up to a biker hangout on a Motus ??
How about on a Guzzi. They know less about Guzzi's probably. When you come to market it's best to sell as many as you can for exposure. As that happens you can raise prices because there's demand. At a premium price point that won't happen. Few sales, low exposure, hard to convince dealers to carry them= hard to stay in business.
I don't know about that. Right now BMW and Ducati sales are up when everything else is down. Rich people still have the $ to spend. :)
I have 8- 2/3wheelers, a 3/4T PU, a Toyhauler trailer, a small SUV, a paid for house, but I'm NOT rich ! Never have been. :)I'm not interested in buying a Motus, but I'd like to see/hear 1 up close just the same. ;D
http://blog.al.com/businessnews/2012/03/bike_to_the_future_motus_motor.html2013 Motus MSTBase price: $30,975Colors: Speed silver metallic or flame red metallicEngine: V-4 Baby Block, 1650cc liquid cooled, 165 horsepower, six-speed, dual overdrive, electronic fuel injectionTires and wheels: Aluminum wheels with wave rotors and Michelin tiresOptions: Adjustable handlebars, heated seat, heated grips2013 Motus MST-RBase price: $36,975Colors: Strong white or carbon blackEngine: V-4R Baby Block, 1650cc liquid cooled, 185 horsepower, six-speed, dual overdrive, electronic fuel injectionTires and wheels: Forged OZ aluminum wheels with wave rotors and Michelin tiresOptions: Heated seat, heated grips, rear storage rack, premium low seat, touring windscreenYou can buy two-three Griso SE's for that price!
Well, the normal Guzzi strategy would be to wait till 2016 and then buy the new unsold ones at a 40% discount ....Lannis
Well no, YOU'RE not rich. You can't be. To be considered "rich", you have to have more money than the person doing the considering.Lannis
Small quibble: one must not make more money than another to be considered rich. One must possess more money than another to be considered rich. It's not the number of toys or cars or houses - only net worth and even that can be parsed when dissected further. I think the down economy proved that while many appeared rich they were actually huge debtors financing luxuries with unrealized housing gains or fragile paychecks, leaving little in reserve.Back to Motus - I hope they succeed but $30K is a big number. However, I don’t beleive selling lots of bikes is the end game for Motus. I feel they are looking to become something of a tier one supplier to established brands, like Rotax, or an engineering partner like Lotus. That scenario would make the bike basically a proof of concept, but I have nothing to base that on other than conjecture.
Small quibble: one must not make more money than another to be considered rich. One must possess more money than another to be considered rich. It's not the number of toys or cars or houses - only net worth and even that can be parsed when dissected further. I think the down economy proved that while many appeared rich they were actually huge debtors financing luxuries with unrealized housing gains or fragile paychecks, leaving little in reserve.
When you come to market it's best to sell as many as you can for exposure. As that happens you can raise prices because there's demand. At a premium price point that won't happen. Few sales, low exposure, hard to convince dealers to carry them= hard to stay in business.
Well, to quibble a bit further - The only way I can show you my "Net Worth" is by showing you my toys and motorcycles and house and Other Stuff.All the rest of it is just paper - statements from brokerage houses and banks, papers "certifying" that I have money put up somewhere (where?), and little green slips with NOTHING behind them other than the fact that the next guy will take them from me in exchange for goods.So unless we compare paper and see what kind it is, you can't tell by looking WHO I'm borrowing from to buy my toys. And in the end, it doesn't make a whit of difference what the paper says that I used to buy my "stuff" - if I can buy a $3M beach house and move my stuff into it, who knows or cares whether it's a "credit" transaction or a "cash" transaction?So if one guy has 10 luxury cars and 3 houses all mortgaged to the hilt and wears Italian silk suits, and has not one dime in the bank, and another guy lives in a shack in raggedy jeans, eating beans and has a million dollars in the bank .... which one's the "rich guy"?And why does it matter? ??? ;) Lannis
It completly does not matter, semantics to some extent. Im not really sure what my original point was and I guess I really dont have a point other than generally those that may appear the "richest" may actually not be as well off as they appear. This says is better than I can: http://www.plantingdollars.com/personal-finance/being-rich-versus-being-wealthy/Being RichRich is a current state of being that can happen overnight. For example: lottery winners, new found celebrities and even high payed professions such as doctors or lawyers belong in the category of rich. They have quite a bit of money, but only have that money because of one source. Becoming rich can happen in an instant, but at the same time it can dissappear in an instant.Being WealthyWealth is being rich, but being rich through ownership of assets. Wealthy people don’t rely on their job, one particular asset, or even their natural talents. Wealthy people own assets and if you took away their job (if they have one) they wouldn’t be poor. If you took away the income stream from a rich person, they would quickly become poor. There’s a huge difference here.
