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Yeah. No touching that distance award. 1420 miles from Tehachapi California to Cedar Vale Kansas in what? 36-hours? He's a hard charger on the CX-100.
...Let's suggest ways and make plans to improve the club and awareness of the brand.
...My recommendation is to combine WG and MGNOC and make WG a members only forum. In other words, f%%k the free loaders.
I don't go to MoKAN much because it's a 700 mile road straight as an arrow to get there.. by the time I get back my back tire is always squared off.Join us at the MN rally, new date/new place, God's country- camp on the shore of Lake Superior! bring warm clothes..MGNOC has not adapted to the new millenium..
and I have no more idea what they want than they do. But I can pretty much guarantee that what they DON'T want is to sit around until 9 PM listening to a bunch of old farts talk about the time they resurrected a barn find, and then listen to those old farts snore the night away.
Wow, I was beginning to thing I was the only one making comments that pissed others off on this forum. I feeling better already. The Vintage Japanese Motorcycle Club does not share their magazine and web site with non members. Pay to play, nothing wrong with that rule. I say if you don't have a dog in this fight, it should not matter what Frank or the State Reps do.
I love going to rallies and camp outs, but as most know those that show up are getting more gray each year, and not enough young folks are showing up to keep the numbers up. If this doesn't change, I don't think their will be many conventional Guzzi rallies left in the US.I think we need to ask ourselves, why don't more young people show up? My take is that young folks have far more options today, as far as how to spend their leisure time, then we did at their age. Ridding to a semi far away destination to camp in the woods with a bunch of fat, gray haired dudes on weird old bikes and sit around a camp fire and drink beer, may only appeal to a relatively small group of the young. Most rallies don't have live music, and if they do it's usually, country or blue grass, and its over by 9:30.Walk out of your tent at midnight Friday at any Guzzi rally, what will you hear? Crickets, and sounds of snoring! There may be a couple fires with a few folks still up having too much fun to go to bed ( Im almost always in one of them) but 90% of the rally is asleep! I love rallies and campouts, but if the format doesn't change a bit, or young people have some sort of epiphany that they do like to hang out in the woods, the future for conventional rallies looks bleak.
Dilli , two things , the HUGE MOA AND RA rallies may be more of a reflection of how many beemers there are in America . Secondly , Kirby 1923 came all the way from Paris via Memphis and Rogers AR for CV last year , and all the way from CA this year , so some will , some won't . Dusty
I wouldn't worry too much about the "younger folks" as there is a natural progression through your adult life. I for 1 have had a motorcycle for over 40 years, but it's only since the kids all moved out that I've had time to start attending any motorcycle rallies. Sure there was the odd 1 day poker run or Toy run but every weekend from the time they're 4 until 24 there was a baseball, soccer, rugby, horse show, band tournament, show , competition and then some. From what I have seen some people can swing bringing they're young children with them, but not nearly as many as the number of adults attending would suggest. We have had a camp out for over 20 years now with just a bunch of my wife's friends who all gave up equestrian sports, so their kids could do it, and now the "kids" have all married and have kids of their own. Now the adults are back into it. I see motorcycle rallies in the same light. :BEER:
Interested in knowing the new location and dates....
While I am a lifetime MGNOC member, I wonder if I would become one now if I was just starting out with Guzzi.
While I am a lifetime MGNOC member, I wonder if I would become one now if I was just starting out with Guzzi. As with many clubs and organizations, much of the value they provide has been made redundant by the internet. A while back, I helped another member create digital copies of some really old newsletters because they were on large paper and he didn't have a large format scanner. It was fun looking through these old documents and you could really see how valuable these were back when there was no way to quickly get information. Large classified sections, tons of tips, info on new models, advertisements for parts outlets, etc.With the internet, we have plenty of resources for classifieds, and pretty much anyone with a tech question can get qualified help/suggestions almost instantaneously. A printed publication for these things is just not going to be helpful except to the small number of people that can't/won't use a computer.So really that pretty much leaves rallies and other functions left for the club and where the MGNOC should focus it's resources. There are lots of ways they could do that. Increase the number of get-togethers, organize booths at motorcycle rallies/shows, etc. Better club support for the rallies might help as well. I haven't been to a whole lot of them and all have been in the Western U.S. but it seems that mostly they are left up to the local rep with little/no support from MGNOC. I don't really know that is the case, it just seems that way from my experience. The one so-called National Rally I attended in Malibu seemed to have little support and from what I hear was actually snubbed/boycotted by many influential club members, which is certainly no way to promote an organization.Lastly I would say there are plenty of other motorcycle/car organizations/clubs that are dealing with these same issues. Might be a good idea to look at what some of the more successful ones are doing to get ideas.
Seems like everyone knows what "young people" DON'T want to do at a rally, but nobody seems to know what they WANT to do at a rally that they can't do now.Maybe they're more like the old guys than they think. What they really want to do is to moan that there isn't anything to do, from what I can tell. At least I haven't heard of any other ideas yet.Lannis
Don't be askin' old guys what young people want; ask the young people. I learned that one long before I got 'old'.
in any group I have been a part of, 90% bitch because the 10% did it wrong, again.
I didn't coin it. The term showed up first out West a few years ago, as far as I recall. Some NARs in Arizona and California.
