Author Topic: Is there a new Le Mans, (with the new liquid cooled motor), in our future?  (Read 13526 times)

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Rumor thread has started over at Guzzitech.  http://forum.guzzitech.com/forum/topic?f=240&t=12375

We may as well have one, too.

Here it is, under wraps:


I can see a high tail and what look like the ends of low clipons and the end of a brake lever poking out from the cover.  Looks sporty.  Not a standard replacement for the Griso.  Not a sport-tourer.

Here's an artist's concept.


My guess is that it's in a chassis that is a development of the 2009 Terblanche/Galluzzi V12LM showbike.




Now, rumors also say it has a liquid-cooled 1300cc mill.  Is it all new?  Or, is it Big Bore-style with liquid-cooled heads on the existing lower end?  Hmmm....  I can't wait to see more !!!

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Very cool. I will say the Artist's Concept looks a lot like an R1100S...'


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Very cool. I will say the Artist's Concept looks a lot like an R1100S...'


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Yes, vague resemblance. Let's hope it runs better. I only kept my R1100S for six months.
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Yummmmy... :drool I think I would have that.


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How to say this in a nice way , hmm , um , thinking , OK how is this . Pierre Terblanche's designs leave me uninspired . Has the man ever looked at anything organic?
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Hopefully it will come to fruition and won't be some sort of horrible 'Retro' shitbox. If it is actually going to happen any time soon, and I'd have to say given the European and American markets I'd be surprised, it will hopefully be a fully 'Clean Sheet' design from the ground up.

Would I buy one? Probably not, it would almost certainly be too uncomfortable for me and I think my Griso, (Which as I've said is a bike that it appears was designed 'Just For Me' ;D) will see me out. If I was going to buy another bike with true sporting pretensions I would of bought a TV-4. As it is though I know that a new 'Sporting' Guzzi is something a lot of people have been hanging out for.

Do us a favour though. Buy them if they appear. Don't just moan and find fault! ??? ::)

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under the cover looks like a pretty tall windshield/fairing and the tail hump looks way exaggerated and too tall. when will it be revealed?
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My guess is that it's in a chassis that is a development of the 2009 Terblanche/Galluzzi V12LM showbike.




Didn't that have a plastic frame? Fail!
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The exposed sump fairing in that picture sure looks alot like the colors and logos on the MAS12 from Mandello Racing.






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Re: Is there a new Le Mans, (with the new liquid cooled motor), in our future?
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2014, 09:53:32 AM »
Didn't that have a plastic frame? Fail!

Supposedly, the show bike did.  I liked the design, but would prefer metal.  So, if it is this design, lets hope it is executed in aluminum.
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Re: Is there a new Le Mans, (with the new liquid cooled motor), in our future?
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2014, 10:02:02 AM »
Watercooled, DOHC, sounds like a bigbore 'pig' motor from the 90's that was never released.
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Re: Is there a new Le Mans, (with the new liquid cooled motor), in our future?
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2014, 10:06:02 AM »
Here it is, under wraps:


The exposed sump fairing in that picture sure looks alot like the colors and logos on the MAS12 from Mandello Racing.

Hmmm.  I think you may be right.



http://www.duccutters.com/MandelloRacing-MAS12.tpl#.UuUyttLnbUI
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Re: Is there a new Le Mans, (with the new liquid cooled motor), in our future?
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2014, 10:22:43 AM »
151HP to 430?wet pounds. Sounds good to me, but I'd still prefer the MGS/01 look but I guess that horse will never leave the barn.
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Re: Is there a new Le Mans, (with the new liquid cooled motor), in our future?
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2014, 10:27:16 AM »
151HP to 430?wet pounds. Sounds good to me, but I'd still prefer the MGS/01 look but I guess that horse will never leave the barn.





MAS12 is built on a MGS-01 chassis.  

But, sounds like the photo is not related to the story.  
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Re: Is there a new Le Mans, (with the new liquid cooled motor), in our future?
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2014, 10:38:31 AM »
151HP to 430?wet pounds. Sounds good to me, but I'd still prefer the MGS/01 look but I guess that horse will never leave the barn.

I agree............. that would be my pick of the lot as well.

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Re: Is there a new Le Mans, (with the new liquid cooled motor), in our future?
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2014, 11:11:36 AM »
I'm staying tuned... this could be very interesting.

I hope they come in Champagne! ;D

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Re: Is there a new Le Mans, (with the new liquid cooled motor), in our future?
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2014, 11:27:07 AM »
151HP to 430?wet pounds. Sounds good to me, but I'd still prefer the MGS/01 look but I guess that horse will never leave the barn.

430 wet..... will never happen.  More like 530 wet, another bloated pig.

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Re: Is there a new Le Mans, (with the new liquid cooled motor), in our future?
« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2014, 11:30:50 AM »
430 wet..... will never happen.  More like 530 wet, another bloated pig.

Paul



That's the race bike. 

Someone mistakenly associated a picture of a covered MAS12 with the upcoming LeMans.

We really don't have any idea what Galluzzi has in store for us with his new LeMans.

Yet.
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Re: Is there a new Le Mans, (with the new liquid cooled motor), in our future?
« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2014, 11:57:08 AM »

MAS12 is built on a MGS-01 chassis.  

But, sounds like the photo is not related to the story.  

Amazing how color and a lower fairing can change the looks at this time on a Sunday morning.  ;D

I wonder when this story is going to unfold?
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Re: Is there a new Le Mans, (with the new liquid cooled motor), in our future?
« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2014, 12:18:09 PM »




MAS12 is built on a MGS-01 chassis.  

But, sounds like the photo is not related to the story.  

I would only hope that it resembles either one of these.  :bow

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Re: Is there a new Le Mans, (with the new liquid cooled motor), in our future?
« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2014, 01:37:22 PM »
Amazing how color and a lower fairing can change the looks at this time on a Sunday morning.  ;D

I wonder when this story is going to unfold?

I remember the Ippo..  ;D but hope this one comes to fruition.
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Re: Is there a new Le Mans, (with the new liquid cooled motor), in our future?
« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2014, 02:57:24 PM »
Hmmm....my back already hurts just looking at the geometry, and my hands are cramping.

Given that I would love to see Guzzi come out with a sport bike.  Weight is critical, so is high technology to compete with a very crowded field of extremely competent bikes. 

What is under the cover...only the Shadow knows...

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Re: Is there a new Le Mans, (with the new liquid cooled motor), in our future?
« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2014, 04:17:36 PM »
............. I want a retro shit box!  Just like the little V7, only bigger.  Doesn't even need DOHC and water-cooled heads.  Just a plain-Jane Griso 8v would work.

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Re: Is there a new Le Mans, (with the new liquid cooled motor), in our future?
« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2014, 04:44:22 PM »
............. I want a retro shit box!  Just like the little V7, only bigger.  Doesn't even need DOHC and water-cooled heads.  Just a plain-Jane Griso 8v would work.

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Re: Is there a new Le Mans, (with the new liquid cooled motor), in our future?
« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2014, 05:07:23 PM »
Looks like someone's imagination went to overdrive.  The photo is a hoax, not the V13.  So we're just yakking on another speculation thread. 

151 hp and 430 lb indeed.    :winer
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Re: Is there a new Le Mans, (with the new liquid cooled motor), in our future?
« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2014, 05:30:39 PM »
Looks like someone's imagination went to overdrive.  The photo is a hoax, not the V13.  So we're just yakking on another speculation thread. 
 

Yeah.  Pretty much.  Todd@Guzzitech admitted on his thread that he just randomly used the photo in his thread.
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Re: Is there a new Le Mans, (with the new liquid cooled motor), in our future?
« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2014, 05:52:32 PM »
I remember the Ippo..  ;D but hope this one comes to fruition.

Do you remember the VA-10 motor? The Pig, new motor could just be BigBore version.
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Re: Is there a new Le Mans, (with the new liquid cooled motor), in our future?
« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2014, 06:50:54 PM »
Yes, the pic is not the new LeMans, but the new LeMans 1300 is for real, and according to Guzztech.com coming this year.

I don't claim to be on the inside of Guzzi workings by any means, but I do know someone who does know, and has told me that the next new Guzzi is indeed a new sport bike.
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Re: Is there a new Le Mans, (with the new liquid cooled motor), in our future?
« Reply #29 on: January 26, 2014, 06:51:56 PM »
Looks like someone's imagination went to overdrive.  The photo is a hoax, not the V13.  So we're just yakking on another speculation thread.  

151 hp and 430 lb indeed.    :winer
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