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Pay no attention to the naysayers, I've modified my V7's engine considerably with no error codes or dangers.Of course I'm not saying it was a cake-walk either.
Nobody that I can see is 'Nay Saying'. What is being offered is caution and advice from people, some of whom have decades of experience and considerable qualification to offer that advice. Some of it, like my observations about noise, are purely subjective. The laws of physics and principles of engineering are VERY objective and are very hard task-masters. Any advice given on that level I would suggest is worthy of consideration. Like any other advice gleaned from the 'Net' though it's worth exactly what you pay for it.Disagreeing with people is fine. Acting like a complete cock is a different matter. Just look at ATE......Pete
Noise and aesthetic concerns are really personal preference. I live on a NYC block populated by several bikes... a Harley 1200 with V&H straight pipes, a Repsol CBR with a "gp" stubby exhaust, and another Triumph Scrambler with VW "pipes"... many of my neighbors know me well and I've never received a single complaint about my exhaust. When moving the bike for alternate side parking, I generally push it in order to avoid bothering neighbors at 7am. Competing with 2nd Ave subway construction, early morning garbage trucks, and the constant hum of traffic, I think the occasional bark of a motorcycle exhaust isn't much of a concern for most New Yorkers.
FYI - Pete is a career Guzzi technician with significant factory training and first hand experience, especially with the cock-ups of DIYers (his most recent was someone who managed to toast a Guzzi motor using 02 manipulators). Not saying that's what you're going to do, but just he's of the opinion from watching these events that modern bikes run best when the balanced intake/exhaust systems are more or less left alone. ESPECIALLY the smallblock which doesn't respond well to little tweaks that say something like a Harley sportster might.As for this:I was born in NYC, my dad and step-mom still live there.I've seen anti-bike laws passed, parking or travel on certain streets restricted, and non-stock exhaust enforcements. Maybe your neighbors who know you don't bitch, but you KNOW someone on your block hates you. Such things just give us a black eye as a community, not that NY bikers need any help with image de-enhancement thanks to that well publicized incident with chasing down the Land Rover earlier this year.Anyway, I really appreciate your aesthetic goals and the craftsmanship of your approach, but I do sincerely hope the exhaust is not too anti-social.
Not to get into a debate on sound or neighbors' hatred of me, I was merely pointing out that there are much worse offenders on my block and throughout NYC. I've been riding in NYC since 2006 and was here when that plainly audible standard came out... not that I'm an offender, but I've never met anyone who has received a citation based on that measure. The measure of anti-social noise is based on a different standard here than in the quiet suburbs, but I am still cognizant of my neighbors and, as previously said, push the bike for alternate side parking in the morning rather than risk waking folks up. My 2-1 with a single 12" straight-through baffled muffler is not obnoxiously loud, and having heard the stubbies on several triumph twins, I do not anticipate this bike to be obnoxious either.
You know the dude was just sharing. He didn't ask for any commentary or unsolicited advice.
Keep it coming J! The more pics the better!-AJ
Not to sound like Lannis, but he did, defacto, by starting a conversation.If you don't want to hear it, don't bring it up kinda thing.That said, I expressed the concern and moved on...
Oi, you!First of all, you could do a lot worse than "sound like Lannis". 8)Second, I checked my responses on this thread and they are encouraging and informational. If someone hasn't tried full knobbies on city streets, you're doing them a favor to warn them .... :oLannis
I have been a member of many forums over the years and and been wrenching and learning even longer and I think I'm being diplomatic when I say that there is never a shortage of opinions... I joined this forum to see if I could glean some knowledge from the members and find a way to build the bike she wants while maintaining rideability. While not to everyone's personal aesthetic or audible tastes, I'm not building this for the forum (though I do enjoy sharing the progress). I do appreciate the technical advice and I've taken it to heart and sought out persons with the technical abilities and knowledge I lack.
OK, go for yer life. It's no skin off my nose. Just be aware that the MUIG-3 controller has a fail-safe 'Limp Home' mode that severely limits throttle input. If it detects what it thinks is a serious issue it will limit the machine to effectively little more than walking pace. If you care for your partner I would strongly suggest that you experiment extensively in all manner of temperatures and conditions in a SAFE environment prior to sending her out onto the streets of New York on a highly modified machine built with enthusiasm but little technical understanding. It is a simple safety issue.All your changes may be fine and have absolutely no serious impact on the way it behaves. On the other hand they might cause a sudden, serious, problem that might have very dangerous consequences, especially for a novice rider. My input was given solely to try and help you understand the risks. It would be a shame if you or your young lady ended getting hurt simply because you made an avoidable mistake. I wish you all the best in your endeavour.
Good of you to share this build but sure beginning to feel for you...
tough crowd :-\
I've never seen a more helpful crowd. Every issue I've come up with has been solved within 24 hours. Most within a few minutes. ;D
Even issues you never knew you had... ;) ;D
true.. but experience is a tough taskmaster. It gives you the test first, then the lesson. ;D The hard won experience on this board has saved me several lessons.. ;) ;-T
