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Re: My v65 refresh
« Reply #90 on: December 28, 2014, 07:33:54 PM »
I really don't know anything about the pump chuck

According to the ADV guys it has a rubber flapper & runs off the pressure pumping in the intake, valve cover, or sump.

Supposedly these are fairly common in all kinds of applications from chainsaws to snow mobiles (as I recall mostly 2-stroke lol)

Anyway I'm game for whatever.. The Breva pulls like a castrated moose so I'll tinker with it till it sings :-)

Supposedly it's rated at 14.1L per hour have no idea how that translates to PSI

Since it's just a rubber paddle pushing the gas I don't think it can develop too much pressure.

I actually have no fracking idea.. But anyone following this thread (I think you are the last trooper at this point lol) knows that already.


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Re: My v65 refresh
« Reply #91 on: December 28, 2014, 07:36:19 PM »
Ps. I'm pretty sure fuel can't flow while the engine is off.. I tried to blow thru it and I could.. But hey that's what the petcock is for! :beer


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Re: My v65 refresh
« Reply #92 on: December 28, 2014, 07:38:36 PM »
Worst case scenario... I can take the flop tube off, cut out the pump, and just run it off the petcock (maintaining at least 1/3rd tank full at all times) until I figure out a solution


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Re: My v65 refresh
« Reply #93 on: December 28, 2014, 08:08:21 PM »
Supposedly it's rated at 14.1L per hour have no idea how that translates to PSI

Liters per hour can't be translated into PSI, but I don't think most vacuum driven fuel pumps put out a lot of pressure.
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Re: My v65 refresh
« Reply #93 on: December 28, 2014, 08:08:21 PM »

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Re: My v65 refresh
« Reply #94 on: December 28, 2014, 10:18:42 PM »
I'm with Chuck on spinning devices. Keep all wires, etc. away from them as something gets caught and it becomes a weapon. Vice grips make great weapons btw. Please don't buy a lathe anytime soon.  ;-T. I only work with wood, but I've had things fly across the room before. You see this happen and you get to thinking next time around.

I think your fender looks splendid where you taped it off. Good on you for using the tape. That's what I do for a clear view. You only get one chance. Your pump stuff can't comment on. I'd probably use gravity myself because I like simplicity. Your situation may dictate otherwise. 

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Re: My v65 refresh
« Reply #95 on: December 29, 2014, 05:54:50 AM »
Worst case scenario... I can take the flop tube off, cut out the pump, and just run it off the petcock (maintaining at least 1/3rd tank full at all times) until I figure out a solution


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I would at least try the flop tube and see if it will gravity flow without the pump. I realize that there's not much head pressure, but it might work ok without it.
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Re: My v65 refresh
« Reply #96 on: December 29, 2014, 01:46:21 PM »
Instead of a plastic flop tube why not a metal tube such as auto brake line, keep it low in the tank so it starts to syphon easily and it should keep going until it sucks air. Your plastic tube looks as though it will loop up near the top of tank, I predict it would be hard to start a gravity feed.

I often see dirt bikes with a tube coming out of the filler cap, what's that about?
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Re: My v65 refresh
« Reply #97 on: December 29, 2014, 02:21:28 PM »
Instead of a plastic flop tube why not a metal tube such as auto brake line, keep it low in the tank so it starts to syphon easily and it should keep going until it sucks air. Your plastic tube looks as though it will loop up near the top of tank, I predict it would be hard to start a gravity feed.

I often see dirt bikes with a tube coming out of the filler cap, what's that about?

It's just a tank vent that keeps fuel off your crotch.  :o
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Re: My v65 refresh
« Reply #98 on: December 29, 2014, 02:43:22 PM »
Instead of a plastic flop tube why not a metal tube such as auto brake line, keep it low in the tank so it starts to syphon easily and it should keep going until it sucks air. Your plastic tube looks as though it will loop up near the top of tank, I predict it would be hard to start a gravity feed.

I often see dirt bikes with a tube coming out of the filler cap, what's that about?

The tube is quite pliable and the weight of the brass barb + clamp should keep it submerged (I hope)

Also those rigid tubes within the tank that connect the holes in the filler neck down to the vents in the bottom of the tank will keep it over on the left side

Between being pinned to the left by the vent hoses & the weight of the brass fitting.. Hopefully it will stay sunk!


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Re: My v65 refresh
« Reply #99 on: December 29, 2014, 02:47:51 PM »
I got the fender chopped, sanded, and treated the cut edge with Toyota touch up paint

My $35 gasket for the fuel tank bung arrived .. Eek that will take the snap out of your suspenders!

I am struggling with the light wiring now.. Turn signals work but the tail light doesn't at all.

Unfortunately I don't know how to work a multi-meter so time to google & youtube

The light I bought.. In the comments/reviews someone said they has to solder an extra ground wire to the light? It just has two wires.. Black & red..

The tail light I took off just had two wires so I figured it would be good..  Perhaps I mixed up those two.. More fiddling tonight


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Re: My v65 refresh
« Reply #100 on: December 29, 2014, 03:34:15 PM »
If the light is Stop & Tail it must rely on a ground return.
The tail light is normally off a different contact in the ignition switch, they do it that way so it can be on in the Park position. However if you don't plan on using Park you can run it from the headlight fuse.
Take the glass of the light and see if it works when you touch a grounded wire to the bulb socket.
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My v65 refresh
« Reply #101 on: December 29, 2014, 06:31:19 PM »
Ok when we last left I'd taped up the fender to get a feel for the new lines. I used electrical tape cause it goes off and on cleanly and it's pliable enough to curve the lines.

Once the shape was determined I went back and overlapped with a couple layers of masking tape.


Then I clamped some scrap to it to keep my lines straight


I had never used a die grinder before but I've had my uncle's in the toolbox for ages. It was pretty easy.


After KiwiRoy's advise I figured out grounding the socket made light worky


This shows the second time I soldered the extra ground to the bulb socket

I know it looks shite but I'm no soldering expert
The first time I used resin core solder with no flux.. Once I painstakingly bound all the wires up & bolted everything down.. The light didn't work. I don't really understand the various types of solder. I opened it back up and the soldered wire had popped off.  I sanded the contact point, and used regular solder with flux.. It's tight as a tick now and the light works

Here's how she looks all together
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Re: My v65 refresh
« Reply #102 on: December 29, 2014, 10:44:16 PM »
Hey man... coming together nicely.
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Re: My v65 refresh
« Reply #103 on: December 30, 2014, 05:40:13 AM »
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I don't really understand the various types of solder.

About all you need to know is to never use acid core or acid flux on electrical stuff. Getcha a little can of flux and use resin core (or plain) solder on electrical work.
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Re: My v65 refresh
« Reply #104 on: July 27, 2015, 03:11:25 PM »
Well this week I got it all finally finished (for now!  :evil: )

I changed the main jet in the carb to a 125; that was a 10% bump for pod filters and 10% for ethanol gas (I got these numbers from guzziology). It took about 5 weeks to get the jets from Moto Int..  the first jets they sent were 6mm but supposed to be 5mm. They were mismarked somewhere along the way and it took a couple send-backs and calls to get it sorted.

I torqued the heads & set the valves.. I synced the throttle cables as close as I could.
The bike went to Jake Hall at Hall's Custom Vintage here in Asheville where he synched and adjusted the carbs (I dont have sticks). He was also able to get the tach working, and he perfected the adjustment on my clutch with the homemade cable.


I got the seat mounted securely
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I have ridden it three times now, a couple short jaunts around the neighborhood... Yesterday I took it up the BRP and all through the mountains, about 200mi.  It's awesome! the best it has ever run! Back in love!  :grin: :bike-037:

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As far as I can tell, it just needs 1/8-1/4 turn on the idle screw to be perfect.
My homemade breather is functioning great, but I need to lengthen the exhaust hose, or route it out back instead of under the tank. I have just the slightest mist of oil on the top of the block from the breather

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Re: My v65 refresh
« Reply #105 on: July 27, 2015, 03:14:28 PM »
Jake was rolling this fresh restoration out of his shop when I went to pickup my bike, it was immaculate.  :drool:

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Re: My v65 refresh
« Reply #106 on: July 27, 2015, 03:50:23 PM »
Attaboy.. :thumb:
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Re: My v65 refresh
« Reply #107 on: July 27, 2015, 04:10:29 PM »
Great job!  Sounds like you have that thing pretty darned sorted.  Sounds like a front seal.  I don't have any experience with that.  Keep an eye on it.  Ride it and enjoy it.   :thumb:
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Re: My v65 refresh
« Reply #108 on: July 27, 2015, 04:23:12 PM »
You need to do something about those side covers, they don't work.
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Re: My v65 refresh
« Reply #109 on: July 27, 2015, 04:46:20 PM »
You need to do something about those side covers, they don't work.

these were on the bike when I bought it...  I think they are pretty good and the white paint the PO used (Toyota Brilliant White) matches the v7 tank pretty damn close!  I did have the original sidecovers, but they were beyond trashed.  There is deff too much spaghetti under there to run without side covers.
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Re: My v65 refresh
« Reply #110 on: July 27, 2015, 04:47:31 PM »
Great post. So you're to one stuffing bikes into hotel rooms!   :laugh:

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Re: My v65 refresh
« Reply #111 on: July 27, 2015, 06:25:47 PM »
           The deprivation must have been killing you. Glad you're happy :grin:
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Re: My v65 refresh
« Reply #112 on: July 27, 2015, 06:57:42 PM »
Looks good! How do you like the Café seat?
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