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I've cheated and feel dirty
« on: March 16, 2015, 05:34:58 PM »
My local car mechanic has a 2001 Ducati Monster 750. I've always loved the trellis framed Duc's.

Thought I'd stop by and he said take it for a spin.  It is his girlfriend's bike and she hasn't ridden it in over a wear.

Clutch was heavy and wouldn't fully disengage, gearbox was tough, throttle was snnatchy.

But the sound. Even the stock pipes. It weighed nothing. I'm still grinning from ear to ear as I ripped it to 80.

My Griso 1100 seemed super smooth and civilized. It was like riding on a BarcaLounger compared to the Duc.

It has a few scratches on the fenders. Chain needs replacing, but valves and belts were just done. Tired are a year old with maybe 200 miles on them.

He is asking $2,500 which seems high. I'm thinking of giving my Griso a stablemate.

Any thoughts?
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Re: I've cheated and feel dirty
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2015, 05:39:08 PM »
It is a 90 twin.  It is an Italian bike.  It is in the faster yellow color.  ;D At least you messed around with a cousin and kept it in the family.  :-*
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Re: I've cheated and feel dirty
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2015, 05:49:07 PM »
There were some non-desmo designs but I think those came later as 800's. If it were closer, I'd be begging for forgiveness. Again.

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Re: I've cheated and feel dirty
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2015, 05:50:49 PM »
Just do it.
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Re: I've cheated and feel dirty
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2015, 05:53:44 PM »
They did make Monsters in the 400 class too.  Mainly for Japanese consumption.
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Re: I've cheated and feel dirty
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2015, 05:57:49 PM »
Did I mention the sound? Maybe if I rev it high enough, I won't hear my wife saying "no" to a second bike!
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Re: I've cheated and feel dirty
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2015, 06:00:06 PM »
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Re: I've cheated and feel dirty
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2015, 06:09:00 PM »
That bike cost $8K new.  4 gal. gas tank.  This duck has 38mm. Mikuni carbs.    Very tempting.
« Last Edit: March 16, 2015, 09:55:45 PM by Arizona Wayne »

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Re: I've cheated and feel dirty
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2015, 06:23:27 PM »
That's a 2 valve engine (AFAIK) so it's much easier to work on.  The recommended valve check interval was something like 7500 miles but somehow Ducati has been able to extend that to about 15,000 miles on the new bikes....without making any major changes to the desmo system.  I know Duck owners who seldom saw any change to the valve clearances (I'm one of those).  A Monster for that price is really attractive.

I'm not aware of any systemic problems (does it have a metal tank?) other than a plastic fuel filter.  Go for it!

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Re: I've cheated and feel dirty
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2015, 06:27:14 PM »
Go ahead. $2500 is just a dirty weekend in Las Vegas, and The Duc won't give you something soap won't wash off.
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Re: I've cheated and feel dirty
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2015, 07:09:38 PM »
  If that were here you wouldn't have to think about it for one more minute.  ~; ;-T

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Re: I've cheated and feel dirty
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2015, 07:10:58 PM »
Do it. ;-T

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Re: I've cheated and feel dirty
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2015, 07:16:38 PM »
There's not a hair on your ass if you don't get it.  Had a 906 Paso and wish I'd never gotten rid of it.  Yeah, the sound.

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Re: I've cheated and feel dirty
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2015, 07:17:19 PM »
Buy it! At that price, you can have some fun and if it turns out to just be a fling instead of true love, you should have no problem getting your investment back on it.
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Re: I've cheated and feel dirty
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2015, 07:20:13 PM »
Ducky! For that price you can't lose. Tires are likely even still good. Get a new chain and go for it. 2V air-cooled engine isn't all that complex and valve adjustment usually stays put for a long time.
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Re: I've cheated and feel dirty
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2015, 07:31:19 PM »
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« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2015, 07:34:28 PM »
Ducky! For that price you can't lose. Tires are likely even still good. Get a new chain and go for it. 2V air-cooled engine isn't all that complex and valve adjustment usually stays put for a long time.
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Re: I've cheated and feel dirty
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2015, 07:43:14 PM »
You guys are evil. I love it.

So new suspension for the Griso or a second bike.

I don't really need a new suspension.....
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Re: I've cheated and feel dirty
« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2015, 07:49:24 PM »
Go ahead.  Be bad.

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Re: I've cheated and feel dirty
« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2015, 07:55:29 PM »
Go ahead.  Be bad.

He's asking $2500.  Offer $2000 "cuz it should probably have a look-over by the Duck dealer".  Buy it at $2250.  I'd buy it in a second at that price.

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Re: I've cheated and feel dirty
« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2015, 08:12:11 PM »
Nice bike and decent price. If you can get it for even less, all the better.

The only counter-argument I can think of is that the bike is very similar in mission and performance to the Griso, which you already have.  If I was buying another bike, I think I would prefer something more dissimilar.

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Re: I've cheated and feel dirty
« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2015, 08:16:15 PM »
Wait a minute someone else wants another bike?

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Re: I've cheated and feel dirty
« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2015, 08:17:09 PM »
There were some non-desmo designs but I think those came later as 800's.

The last non-Desmo Ducati I remember was the 900 GTS back in the '70s.

If it's got the Weber carburetor, I'll send you a good book on Webers that will help tuning it.  

2001 Monster 750 would have Mikuni CV carbs. The Weber was only used on the 750 Paso, 906 Paso and 750 Sport in the mid to late '80s.
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Re: I've cheated and feel dirty
« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2015, 08:35:38 PM »
If I wasn't saving up for the auction in May I'd be all over it.  Price seems fair, you don't get much for that and if you don't like it, it would sell pretty easy.  As for adding a second bike............  I wouldn't be concerned till you hit triple digits on the inventory.  Buy it and enjoy it !!!!
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« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2015, 09:03:21 PM »
She is winking at you!

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Re: I've cheated and feel dirty
« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2015, 09:14:24 PM »
How hard can a dry clutch to be to fix?

Really?  I don't know, how hard?         ???
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« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2015, 09:22:29 PM »
BUY IT!

Peter, forgive me, but I'm a little skeptical about those valve adjustment intervals. AFAIK on the air-cooled motors they USED to be 3k, were lengthened to 7.5k around EDIT - 08 or so (like with our 2011 696) and never exceeded that (unless it's after the first couple of valve checks).

EDIT - I'm seeing conflicting info.

My 11 696 owner's manual (and I'm pretty sure Jays 14 796) both clearly state valves are done every 7500 for every interval listed.

BUT I've got a chart from DMF, it's a little unclear but it LOOKS LIKE IT IS FROM DUCATI and it LOOKS to me like they are saying there were two intervals depending on model.

7500 and 15000

The CHART suggests that after the first service your intervals are right and my owner's manual is wrong (maybe superseded - I'll ask this spring when we bring Jenn's 696 in for the 7500 mile service).

The CHART suggests 7500 models were checked at 7500 for the FIRST CHECK ONLY - then every 15000 - i.e. 73.5k, 22.5k, 37.5k, 52.5k

15000 models were checked at 15000 for each check (first included) - so 15k, 30k, 45k, 60k.

I'll be very curious to see how that turns out.

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Re: I've cheated and feel dirty
« Reply #27 on: March 16, 2015, 09:59:10 PM »
The last non-Desmo Ducati I remember was the 900 GTS back in the '70s.

2001 Monster 750 would have Mikuni CV carbs. The Weber was only used on the 750 Paso, 906 Paso and 750 Sport in the mid to late '80s.




This `01 750 Duck has Mikuni carbs...........see above,  transferred from my official 2001 Cycle News Buyer's Guide.  ;)

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Re: I've cheated and feel dirty
« Reply #28 on: March 16, 2015, 10:02:39 PM »
I have a friend with a hotrod 1998 M750 and another friend with a hotrod 1997 M900.

Neither of them ride anymore.  Both bikes could be bought.

It sure is tempting.

They're lots of fun.  Especially with FCR carbs, fancy suspension, and big brakes!

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Re: I've cheated and feel dirty
« Reply #29 on: March 16, 2015, 11:43:24 PM »
I used to love riding my buddy's Monster S2R 1000, great feel and sound! Get it, you'll love it!
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