Thinking of selling my...

[ridingron]

I'm in the "who cares?" camp. Doesn't do a thing for me. I wouldn't walk across the street to look at one more closely.

If you like it, by all means, get yourself one.

[andrewdonald1]

...soul.

Damn, I just can't get this bike out of my mind...







 ~;


(no, the Sport 1100 is not for sale).

I personally like it.  
But I also like cruisers.
Do I like it enough to purchase over a HD?
Hmm.. Fortunately I had a great positive experience with HD when I had a 2005 Road King FLHRI.
That bike and Moto Guzzi's are the top of my list of bikes I've owned.
It would take something really really special to knock down the HD.  
But in my case now, a future HD would be a Springer Classic.. Oh I like that bike.
Fringe here I come baby.. love it or hate it (I don't think there's a middle ground on it that I've seen)...and fishtails!

[MotoGoosy]

Heresy!!!!!!

[Kentktk]

Go for it!

[kingoffleece]

They're just motorcycles........ ...............

[LowRyter]

If you MUST get an American V Twin, ride the Harley RK or RG (not the jack hammer CVO shrieking eagles  ~;).  

They're better balanced machines, IMHO.  

 :beat_horse I'd give the shelf-life pleasure of riding the Big Injun about 2 weeks in the Ozarks and about a good month of bar hoppin'.   :BEER:

[Aaron D.]

Any chance I could ask you to take some comparative pics showing the difference in control positions. I've not even seen a photo of one with the reduced reach controls and I'd love to get an idea of where they sit.

Stay tuned on Friday, I'll have mine on and should be able to show her standard pegs before swapping them out.

The reduced reach bars are on backorder-the stockers are perfect for me but she plans on trying the other ones.

[Jim Rich]

They are showing the new Motus bikes across town.  I won't even go look at em.  Yet. 

[Lannis]

They are showing the new Motus bikes across town.  I won't even go look at em.  Yet. 

Now I WOULD go across town, or a bit across the state, just to see if there really is such a thing.   We've been teased with them for so long, I'd like to go and see if IT could steal my soul and make me do something I'd regret later .....

Lannis

[swmckinley54]

Saw one (Motus) parked in the parking lot at COTA for MotoGP along with all the other sheep. Looked at it from afar, didn't look like $36,000.00 dollars worth of bike to me.  ::)

[Lannis]

Saw one (Motus) parked in the parking lot at COTA for MotoGP along with all the other sheep. Looked at it from afar, didn't look like $36,000.00 dollars worth of bike to me.  ::)

 

It might not be ...... But I'll give a sport-tourer a shot anyway .....

Lannis

[Wayne Orwig]

I actually touch one. Wasn't impressed with the looks. But then it was a prototype.

[Chuck in Indiana]

I sat on one of the prototypes and started it up. Couldn't talk him into a test ride, though. I was impressed with the riding position, and the narrowness of the seat. I could flat foot it. (!) Sounded great. A little pricey for my taste.   ;)  I think they are missing their demographic. The guys that can afford one are buying CVOs.

[rodekyll]

The pics in post #1 make it look like the rider is being canted backwards by the floorboard angle and position as well as the seat.  Then he has to bend from the lower back to reach the bars.  I don't know if it's an effect of the photo or the actual rider geometry.  I'd like to get a look at one upright* to see.


*  The only new-issue Indian I've seen in person was on its side in an intersection on Cali 101.  The crashbar on the low side had bent enough to interfere with the controls and with the brake and shift locked they couldn't do much with it.  I was in my van.  I stopped to help and discovered the bike had started rolling with the light and simply tipped over making the left.  I suspect the passenger had tried to steer the bike since it was brand new (inexperienced).  My part was to dig two pieces of plywood from the crap in the van, make a crashbar sandwich, and run it over a few times to flatten it out.  It worked and I left without helping to pick the bike up.

[Mile High Guzzi]

I test road all the new Indians, and I could see owning one someday....I just have too many bikes already right now.  The engines are works of art.  As to the cruiser ergos, they can always be tweaked a bit, but I am not a one-type-of-bike-or-nothing guy so I can enjoy a cruiser as much as a crotch-rocket in the right riding situation.  Sometimes the road dictates the style of bike I like to ride the best, but sometimes its just my frame of mind that day.  This big heavy metal lump of thundering machinery would do me just fine on many of those days.

[lucydad]

Still want to see and test ride a Scout.  Yet to observe one in Houston, yet.  As a PII stockholder, I applaud any interest in buying any new Indian Motorcycle.

When the 4 car garage is available...maybe there will be some used Scouts floating about, or F 800 GT...or hell maybe a blue Cali?  Dunno.

Hoping for some dry weather Friday and Saturday....weather is getting set up for dicey and violent and wet stuff again.   Guzzi rolls tomorrow morning after breakfast. 

[Aaron D.]

A guy on the Scout forum is trying to sell one. Best bet is to find a demo-days truck.

One reason I nearly bailed on mine-orders taken in September and October (like mine) were not filled, while orders taken in March are being delivered-today! Just made me mad.

[swmckinley54]

I bought one of those 14' RT's....then they (BMW) wrote me a letter and said I couldn't ride it anymore. They said they would give me all my money back if I wanted, I said yes.

[Kiwi_Roy]

Now if they would just go back to the hand change, foot clutch and left hand throttle that would make it interesting ........

[LowRyter]

I bought one of those 14' RT's....then they (BMW) wrote me a letter and said I couldn't ride it anymore. They said they would give me all my money back if I wanted, I said yes.

what did you get as a replacement? 

I really thought the RT was a very comfortable and great performing motorcycle if a little ugly and soulless.  I did ask them if they had any buy backs but they've all been sold. 

Right now I am out of the market for a big touring machine after passing up a great deal on Cal 1400.   :wife:   I can putter around on the EV.

[Aaron D.]

Mostly for Kev M.

https://www.flickr.com/gp/xfolkboat/5cKs2M

We now have our Scouts, and 2 Guzzis!

Quick report-as illustrated in the link, I have the reduced reach controls on mine, which moves pegs and controls back 2", up 1", and (sadly but not avoidable) out 1" or so. Sadly only in that the bike is a great handler but I drag the pegs even now (because I'm a Guzzi guy, eh?) but even so, it isn't bad and I'm using all the tire anyway.
Also, standard controls drop your heels, so those hit first

The good-
feels like a '70s bike, and even sort of like a 101 Scout-especially with the reduced controls-
The engine is amazing!
I like the looks a lot..
47+mpg so far

The bad-
Short folk may have trouble with heat from the rear exhaust. You will only wear shorts on this bike once. Then you will need burn cream.
Low fuel light at 120 yesterday, a bit light in my opinion, but you still have .8 gallons left
Clearance! the bike is a great handler, stable and confidence inspiring, but a Jackal/EV has a lot more clearance. Never mind any sport bike.

Ignore complaints of tires and suspension on Indian forums. The Kendas are fine, not super grippy based on my brake testing, I can lock either wheel, but cornering grip is way better than the bike can use, and the suspension may be budget but youonly have 3" of rear travel, what would you expect?

[swmckinley54]

After the BMW buy-back of my 2014 RT and went online and found a used Victory Vision. This would be my second purchase of the Vision, the first I put 50,000 miles on and traded it in on the RT. I like the Vision and my wife loves riding on the back of it. So  I have the Stelvio for solo riding and the Vision for two up.

[Kev m]

Mostly for Kev M.

https://www.flickr.com/gp/xfolkboat/5cKs2M

We now have our Scouts, and 2 Guzzis!

Quick report-as illustrated in the link, I have the reduced reach controls on mine, which moves pegs and controls back 2", up 1", and (sadly but not avoidable) out 1" or so. Sadly only in that the bike is a great handler but I drag the pegs even now (because I'm a Guzzi guy, eh?) but even so, it isn't bad and I'm using all the tire anyway.
Also, standard controls drop your heels, so those hit first

The good-
feels like a '70s bike, and even sort of like a 101 Scout-especially with the reduced controls-
The engine is amazing!
I like the looks a lot..
47+mpg so far

The bad-
Short folk may have trouble with heat from the rear exhaust. You will only wear shorts on this bike once. Then you will need burn cream.
Low fuel light at 120 yesterday, a bit light in my opinion, but you still have .8 gallons left
Clearance! the bike is a great handler, stable and confidence inspiring, but a Jackal/EV has a lot more clearance. Never mind any sport bike.

Ignore complaints of tires and suspension on Indian forums. The Kendas are fine, not super grippy based on my brake testing, I can lock either wheel, but cornering grip is way better than the bike can use, and the suspension may be budget but youonly have 3" of rear travel, what would you expect?

Great report - THANKS!

Those photos, I am to take it those are the two different foot controls, the one that appears to be a smidge longer (with the red fender in the pic) is your wife's bike and the other is yours with the reduced reach control? Because the angles are slightly different I'm not sure I'm getting the right idea (it doesn't "look" 2" closer), but I'll take your word for it.

Thanks again.

BTW, I good looking bikes... I'm liking them more and more!

Kev

PS - on the wider peg mounting, wonder if you could make some of that up with shorter pegs?

[luthier]

I reckon if yer gunna do the cruiser dream malfunction you need to go the whole Nine Yards man.

[Aaron D.]

Yes, the red bike has the standard controls. I was surprised how hard it was to see, but the standard pegs are in front of the horn, the rearset ones are even with the horn.

The reduced control set is actually only a bracket, which mounts in the original control holes in the frame. The foot control "modules" then mount to the bracket, and this is where the outward displacement occurs.

I considered shortening the pegs, but you know, I'm already at the edge of the tire-maybe a bit beyond-no chicken strips at all, so I think I have enough clearance. The pegs fold nicely,I just have to lift my foot a bit. Or I could make a different bracket.

For what it's worth, my leg angles aren't far from they way they are on the Jackal, the knee is a bit more open.

[Kev m]

Yes, the red bike has the standard controls. I was surprised how hard it was to see, but the standard pegs are in front of the horn, the rearset ones are even with the horn.

The reduced control set is actually only a bracket, which mounts in the original control holes in the frame. The foot control "modules" then mount to the bracket, and this is where the outward displacement occurs.

I considered shortening the pegs, but you know, I'm already at the edge of the tire-maybe a bit beyond-no chicken strips at all, so I think I have enough clearance. The pegs fold nicely,I just have to lift my foot a bit. Or I could make a different bracket.

For what it's worth, my leg angles aren't far from they way they are on the Jackal, the knee is a bit more open.

8) Awesome.