EICMA 2015 - New V7 Roamer/Bobber and MGX-21 Bagger The photos are rolling in.

[oldbike54]

In our magazine "Motorrad" a small article with pictures showed something that seems to be an addition to the V7 II line. They say that it is only a model variant, but....

Looking at the engine it seems to be different from what we know. I found the picture online here: http://www.insella.it/news/moto-guzzi-v7-ii-2016-arrivo-una-bobber-132796 . This to me is an altered engine. Perhaps it is only all cosmetically. Let�s see!

"Motorrad" also mentioned that there will be a small cruiser.

Interesting: in 2015 there have been sold 535 V7 (Stone, Special, Racer) up to the end of August here in Germany, second was the Cali 1400 with 118 units.

 Merged with the spy shot thread .

  Dusty

[oldbike54]

The ground is pretty wet on this forum from so many folks peeing in their pants waiting for some real news.  Maybe we need a betting pool to keep us occupied until then.

   

 Yeah , but being a bunch of old guys , we don't need much help with that 

  Dusty

[mentalfloss]

The ground is pretty wet on this forum from so many folks peeing in their pants waiting for some real news.  Maybe we need a betting pool to keep us occupied until then.

Either a betting pool or a kiddies pool ...

[mentalfloss]

The ground is pretty wet on this forum from so many folks peeing in their pants waiting for some real news.  Maybe we need a betting pool to keep us occupied until then.

Either a betting pool or a kiddies pool ...

[bad Chad]

Either way, don't swallow the water!

[bad Chad]

Being a member of the Clan, that's clan with a C! I received an invitation to a Guzzi preview before the show goes public.  I would go but I have to make dinner that night, but the interesting part is Guzzi says they have several surprises in wait, but they won't leak!   

FoR BS or some cool poop?

[Penderic]

I was hoping the new ECU models that are ABS and Traction Control enabled, will finally provide a "wheelie" mode, in addition to the usual 'sport-normal-rain' settings.

Oh well. 

Endless wheelies! I can dream, can't I?

[canuguzzi]

Hopefully something new and not yet another V-7something. Not some massaged over piece or a mixed parts bin bike. Not just a bigger model of an existing model.

Something new to attract new customers and not just the few who like what is already being made.

[Dogwalker]

http://www.motoguzzi.it/
http://www.motoguzzi.com/

Bike profile on the official site.

[blackcat]

Looks like that tank made it to production.

[jas67]

http://www.motoguzzi.it/
http://www.motoguzzi.com/

Bike profile on the official site.

The profile of it looks decent.   I'm anxiously awaiting the official announcement with specs, and pictures of what it actually looks like.
I definitely won't be buying one the first year, as I'm picking up my new-to-me '14 V7 Special in two days.   

This is timely, given the recently announced new Bonneville lineup.

I wish M.G. well with this new model.

[Chuck in Indiana]

My first thought is ZZZZZZZ, but I'll reserve judgement..
 

[steffen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhaK7NfEUXA

If this is it (doubtful), I'm a little disappointed. Tires say more style than substance... sigh...

[Kev m]

I feel like a woman...(I keep changing my mind) 

I can't tell if:

* I'm warming up to this bike all of a sudden (when I really hated the spy shots)

* It just plain looks better in the dark. 

* I'm just a Guzzi ho

* All of the above


The Indian Scout and the new Triumphs both are credited with getting me to start thinking about bikes differently yet again, maybe opening the way for some things I previously didn't like. So maybe this is an extension of that.

Or maybe, it has most of the qualities that I claim are important to me:

1. Air-cooled
2. Belt or Shaft
3. Simple/honest/traditional, organic lines
4.  <1000cc which is a huge plus in my book these days
5. Cast wheels!
6. And maybe the basic ergonomics that I prefer on a bike.


I can't wait for the full reveal and I wish them well with this.

It's going to be an interesting year trying to get a demo on this and the new Bonnies!

[tonUPRacer]

In my best broken english italian accent "she's a no good" I am interested to see the spec sheet, maybe they put the new mill in the existing Racer too? and also upgrade the suspension a'la Thruxton R, then you have my attention.

[steven c]

Interesting, could be good. Looks like a 20 mile seat on it.

[Xlratr]

If I tilt my laptop screen back to just the right angle, there is a reasonable level of detail.
I like it!
And the V9 naming is interesting.
It obviously won't satisfy those looking for a new sporting Guzzi, but it looks like just about the cleanest, simplest and honest to god motorcycle your likely to find these days.
I hope it's a great success.

John

[Penderic]

  Another silhouette teaser?
Well then.
Heres another....

Oh boy. Don't see a sissy bar.

[Kev m]

If I tilt my laptop screen back to just the right angle, there is a reasonable level of detail.

BRILLIANT - thanks for the idea.

Best I could do with Photoshop:

[blackcat]

Sorry, the tank is too much like a Nevada. I hope this is just one, of a few representations for this new bike.

[Kev m]

Sorry, the tank is too much like a Nevada.

Not really, this tank is much more uh, traditional in shape. The Nevada was like a caricature of a chopper and that's what I found off putting about the styling of the Nevada.

The bodywork/seat of the Nevada was stepped, giving it a look like it was raked backwards.
The tank was way peaked, with a much taller front and much sharper angle.
The seat was stepped like a bad 70's chopper this brought ugly side-rails/fender rails with it along for a bent ride up and back to the tip of the rear fender.
Goofy irregularly shaped hexagon side panels contributed to the cartoonish design.



In contrast this V9 seems to have a mildly sloping tank that ends at a near flat seat.
A nice straight line is cut by the frame from the steering head all the way back to the rear fender tip.
A cleaner trapezoidal sidecover continues the better geometric lines of the package.



No, stylistically I find the V9 better in every way from a Nevada, even if not as stunning as a Griso or even a V7.

[jas67]

In my best broken english italian accent "she's a no good" I am interested to see the spec sheet, maybe they put the new mill in the existing Racer too? and also upgrade the suspension a'la Thruxton R, then you have my attention.

THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[jas67]

* It just plain looks better in the dark. 

If it looks anything like the spy photos, then yes, looks better in the dark.

I can't wait for the full reveal and I wish them well with this.

It's going to be an interesting year trying to get a demo on this and the new Bonnies!

 :1: :1: :1: :1:

[Chuck in Indiana]

I'll give it this.. it looks like a motorcycle rather than a carnivorous insect. I'll still withhold judgement until I see one in the carapace. 

[Orange Guzzi]

The picture looks like some one grabbed up an XS650 and stuck a small block Guzzi motor in it.  Nothing new here. 

The latest Triumph look like Paul Smarts with Triumph motors stuck in them. 

Just saying.  Nothing new, just parts being swapped around.  Keeps research and development cost down.  With the coming recession here in the U.S., keep cost down for the next couple of years will be important.

[jas67]

Here is my photoshop attempt:
v9 by jay_snyder67, on Flickr

It definitely has the "Brat Style" look with the fat tires.  It's  not bad looking, but, I prefer the V7.
Those fat tires have got to be a lot of unsprung weight.

Add me to the list of people hoping that this engine finds its way into a more traditional V7 looking bike.

With this change of lighting levels, you can clearly see that if it isn't the current small block frame, it certainly evolved from it.
Look specifically at the frame tubing around the side cover.

[Orange Guzzi]

Here is my photoshop attempt:
v9 by jay_snyder67, on Flickr

It definitely has the "Brat Style" look with the fat tires.  It's  not bad looking, but, I prefer the V7.
Those fat tires have got to be a lot of unsprung weight.

Add me to the list of people hoping that this engine finds its way into a more traditional V7 looking bike.

With this change of lighting levels, you can clearly see that if it isn't the current small block frame, it certainly evolved from it.
Look specifically at the frame tubing around the side cover.

I liked the Spine Frame concept.  I works with the motor layout.  It should be brought back. 

[jas67]

The more I look at this, the more I realize that it IS the V7II frame & swing arm.
I've tweaked the levels a little more to make it easier to see the the frame:


It makes me wonder if the changes to the frame for the V7II wasn't just done to make room for the larger small block, and, of course the 6 speed transmission?

With this bike in the lineup, the V7 Racer better become the V9 Racer.

Thoughts on the heads?   They look small enough to still be Heron heads.

[Dogwalker]

[Kev m]

The more I look at this, the more I realize that it IS the V7II frame & swing arm.
I've tweaked the levels a little more to make it easier to see the the frame:


It makes me wonder if the changes to the frame for the V7II wasn't just done to make room for the larger small block, and, of course the 6 speed transmission?

With this bike in the lineup, the V7 Racer better become the V9 Racer.

That would make sense, and would agree with Pete's thoughts on the gearbox change to the V7II.