2016 Indian Scout 60

[oldbike54]

 Yep , some of us have been predicting this for a year . Maybe we will see the HD/Indian dirt track wars start up again. Rollie Free would be happy 

  Dusty

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

If I was in the market for a new motorcycle, the Indian Scout 60 would be the one. Might have to test ride one in the Spring - I now have two dealers within 40 miles (Hagerstown and Winchester).

[wahoo650]

Yep , some of us have been predicting this for a year . Maybe we will see the HD/Indian dirt track wars start up again. Rollie Free would be happy 

  Dusty

Bring back the Wrecking Crew!

[Poncho]

scout 60 is aimed at entry level, first time buyers with a limited budget and to get in under the 1000cc insurance cap.. it is the same bike as the 1100cc scout but 3k cheaper.. this kind of marketing is to set the hook (hardley style) and get/keep you in the indian camp..

for the rest of you who already ride, and have bigger better machines, this is not meant for you (#move on) to push yor buttons. you have a ton of other brands, styles, configs to fit your specific addictions. float yor boat.

but for those who do, this is another engineering gem out of Polaris. water cooled, dohc, fi, belt drive, modulur alum chassis, etc.. my guess 60-80hp? ~550lb. big fatt front tire (my button). albeit is one fugly basturd. but so is yor dog. and you grew on you and you now love it endearingly.?

small tank? 3 gal should get you 150 miles down the road if you can somehow restrain your rite wrist and excercise some discipline.. oh, not this crowd?.. a buck fifty can buy you 3 hrs of backroad wandering. if yor skared of the boonies, just carry a gal can in yor saddlebag. this is not a tour bike.

its amazing how we tear apart any (new) machine that doesn't quite fit our specific idea of what an optimal bike should be and have, as if any/all machines should be bilt with ME in mind.. these machines are just machines.. either they work for you or they don't. we shouldn't waster our energy piss n moan how it missed the mark..  for the target its aimed at, its most likely hit the bulls eye.

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

its amazing how we tear apart any (new) machine that doesn't quite fit our specific idea of what an optimal bike should be and have, as if any/all machines should be bilt with ME in mind.. these machines are just machines.. either they work for you or they don't. we shouldn't waster our energy piss n moan how it missed the mark..  for the target its aimed at, its most likely hit the bulls eye.

I don't see anyone tearing apart the Scout in this or any other thread. A few voiced concerns about the seat and fuel range, but that's it. <shrug>

[oldbike54]

I don't see anyone tearing apart the Scout in this or any other thread. A few voiced concerns about the seat and fuel range, but that's it. <shrug>

 Yeah , the new Polarindians have not been bashed nearly as much as the new V9 .

  Dusty

[Poncho]

sorry, am mixing up my post. have read too many other 4ms where they take either this bike or another (new) offering apart for not being somebodies ideal design.. Injun is stretching its muscles and will make serious dent in hardleys niche world.. mite even cross over and get some jap/euro market as well.? poncho

[rocker59]

sorry, am mixing up my post. have read too many other 4ms where they take either this bike or another (new) offering apart for not being somebodies ideal design.. Injun is stretching its muscles and will make serious dent in hardleys niche world.. mite even cross over and get some jap/euro market as well.? poncho

There is no doubt that Indian is going to put a big dent in Japanse cruiser sales.  They will also pick up plenty of HD sales.

They're coming on strong.

[jas67]

Nephew the HD salesman related this . At a meeting put on by corporate MoCo types , they stressed the fact that PIV is building a high quality product , HD and its dealers could not be caught napping or there would be big trouble .

  Dusty

Competition is a good thing.   And, more choices make things better for motorcycle buyers.

It is also good to see an American manufacturer doing well.

[rocker59]

Hey Dusty, we were just talking about this:

[Aaron D.]

I was just looking at these. Interesting bits, some of which are interesting because they look stock.

Rear suspension is longer-travel, and there's an idler/tension pulley. Foot controls moved back quite a ways too.

Bet they sound wild!

[oldbike54]

I was just looking at these. Interesting bits, some of which are interesting because they look stock.

Rear suspension is longer-travel, and there's an idler/tension pulley. Foot controls moved back quite a ways too.

Bet they sound wild!

 Those are concept bikes . More than likely any serious flat track racers will be framers , mono shock , adjustable steering head , adjustable swing arm pivot points , etc .

  Dusty

[Aaron D.]

He's actually entering them in the Super Hooligan event. At least that's what he says.

[oldbike54]

He's actually entering them in the Super Hooligan event. At least that's what he says.

 Ahh , thanks 

  Dusty

[Jules Ballore]

I test rode a scout last year before i was actively shopping and ultimately ended up with my T3. But it was quite honestly an amazing machine. The egos were comfy. The thing picked up like nothing i had ever ridden. i pulled out of the dealer which was right off the highway and as I entered the on ramp i was already going 85-90 without even knowing it! It also had 6 gears which I loved especially coming from riding old Yamaha's for a few years. I wasn't in the market for a new bike at the time just curious and had a Friday afternoon free. I had actually went to the Harley dealer next door to try an Iron 883 and Nightster but was dismissed when they saw me pull up on my Yammi so I went next door and tried one of every Indian they had ready. If I had a garage and could afford it I would buy an Chief for touring and/or Scout for all my inner city needs. But as it happens when i unexpectantly started looking for a new bike after wrecking my Yammi this year, I opted for a Guzzi because I can build it to be my around town bike and do some long trips with the gas tank range and still have not spent as much on a new Indian. I am quite positive I will probably own an Indian in a few years when i finally get the house i want though.

[jas67]

I had actually went to the Harley dealer next door to try an Iron 883 and Nightster but was dismissed when they saw me pull up on my Yammi so I went next door and tried one of every Indian they had ready.

I've never heard of a negative experience like that at a Harley shop.   In fact, I've heard nothing but positive comments regarding Harley dealerships and customer service.    Heck, I was just kicking tires at our local Harley shop, and was being offered test rides w/o even asking.

Recently, I was talking to a fellow who was riding a Harley trike due to medical problems that preclude riding a two wheeler any more.    He hates how unstable it feels in turns.  I asked if he considered a Can Am Spyder.   He did, but, couldn't get a test ride.   Harley?    No problem.  He dealer didn't have a trike, but, got one from another dealer just so he could test ride it.  He ended up buying it.

[TBShorty]

Kind of weird the HD dealer in town is also the Indian Dealer.  They have all the massive bagger models on showroom floor.  I've been back several times to see the Scout but no dice.  When I ask they don't seem the least bit interested in getting some Scouts.  "Do you know when the next shipments of Scouts will arrive?  I would love to test one."  They always reply "Nope, had some a while back, not sure if we will get some any time soon".  Typical arrogant Harley dealer answer.

[Kev m]

I'm sure there are bad dealers, but I wager I've been to more Harley dealers than any of the people on here who tell stories of bad experiences.

I think YOUR attitude coming in can hello dictate what kind of experience you find more than not.

But yeah, once in a while there's a complete idiot.

[tiger_one]

Nice looking and probably a nice performer but with a 3.3 gallon tank, usable 2.8 gallon would be a killer. I complain about the fuel capacity on my Cali 1400T, can't imagine having to refuel every 70 or so miles.

Made a trip to Ca. couple of weeks ago, 3 other bikes (K1600GT, FJR, 1290SA), for the first time in any ride I was the small tank.  I went on reserve twice, both times at 200 miles.  Took 5 gallons while the SA took 6 gallons.  4416 miles in 9 days, PCH, Big Sur, DV, all new to me.

[Johncolleary]

I just got back from riding it at the Long Beach Motorcycle show and was very impressed.  Not my kind of bike but the motor seemed good and strong and the bike appears to be well thought out I liked it for what it is.

[Doppelgaenger]

I don't see anyone tearing apart the Scout in this or any other thread. A few voiced concerns about the seat and fuel range, but that's it. <shrug>

I'll tear it up.

I test rode the Scout this year. On the plus side the engine is super smooth and it has a lot of grunt.

On the downside it made my taint vibrate in many ways above 5000 rpm, none of them pleasant, and it has absolutely crap brakes which is a large sin on a bike with that much power.

That and it can't turn (It's resistant to turning because of the fork rake and it can't lean much) so it's just like most other american "performance vehicles" that are only good for a straight line.

The big block indians though... there's something I'd buy if I wanted a cruiser, and boy did I ever suddenly want a cruiser...

[Aaron D.]

I can lock my brakes. Steering lighter than almost any Guzzi.

Your taint..never mind

[drlapo]

overpriced as it will cost much $ to change the tank, seat, fenders, frame, suspension, wheels and exhaust system
and yes I did sit on one and it felt like a blinged out tractor

[Moto]

I rented an Indian for 24 hours out of Denver two months ago and took it up in the mountains. I got up to 10,000 feet so I experienced what the bike is like with less power. So maybe my ride was a taste of what the smaller engined one is like.

It was ok. The great power I had felt in my Wisconsin test ride was noticeably absent, and with that went much of the attraction. The brakes are lacking and the bike doesn't turn well, as Doppleganger said. Also, the suspension was under-damped. I was stuck in a traffic jam going up the highway into the mountains and found that the seat got uncomfortably hot! The instrumentation and the control fittings seemed pretty basic and crude. On the Interstate racing back north to Denver to see my kid's kung fu event the bike was tolerably comfortable -- the upright position, without a windshield, was ok. I did nearly run out of gas sooner than expected, and had to find some in a panic.

My overall impression was of riding an older motorcycle that was in really nice shape. The things that make it a nostalgic choice also interfere with its capabilities. Though pleasant enough in its own way, I'd rather have been on my Griso (or my T3), by a large margin.

[Triple Jim]

From the literature:

...So you get a 25.3-inch seat height, modest running weight (claimed 542 pounds dry, just four more than the bigger Scout)...

Strange, isn't it?  Four pounds heavier than the "bigger Scout".

[jas67]

From the literature:
Strange, isn't it?  Four pounds heavier than the "bigger Scout".

The engine is the same, just smaller holes in the cylinders.   Sure the transmission has one less gear, so, that might be a little less weight.''    So, it doesn't surprise that that it isn't lighter, but found pounds heavier, that could be the difference in calibration between two scales.

[oldbike54]

The engine is the same, just smaller holes in the cylinders.   Sure the transmission has one less gear, so, that might be a little less weight.''    So, it doesn't surprise that that it isn't lighter, but found pounds heavier, that could be the difference in calibration between two scales.

 Unless things have changed , the manufacturers don't actually weigh their bikes . The published weights are based on target weights provided by the engineers for each individual component . This is why published weights are almost always lighter than real world poundage . (Kiloage?)

  Dusty

[Poncho]

From the literature: Strange, isn't it?  Four pounds heavier than the "bigger Scout".

ballast, for keeping the ship upright.

[Chuck in Indiana]

 

[Kev m]

As for the negative reviews, I've owned or ridden the same bikes you guys have noted in your sigs. All I can say is meh, I'm unimpressed. It's all subjective. No need to present it like facts.

From the literature:
Strange, isn't it?  Four pounds heavier than the "bigger Scout".

Interesting. If IIRC there's was a time when the Harley 883 and 1200 models were almost identical in motor and chassis and the 1200 was a few pounds lighter LITERALLY because the jugs had less metal thanks to the larger bores.

Or at least that's to what it was always attributed.