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[redrider]

Rode to Charlotte today with a friend who needed warranty work on his Monster. The Café Sport was so good at high speed cruising. 80 - 100 in the slow lanes. 42 mpg was a surprise-usually low 30's. Well, the dealership also had test rides on the new Trumpets and BMW's and I opted for the BMW1000XR. What a fantastic machine. Every bike needs a shift assistant. I am going to loose sleep over this one.

[wyrtyr2]

Sleep on this.  With panniers, they are over $20K-- for a chain drive motorcyle.

[leafman60]

If you like it, buy it.

Nothing wrong with $20k for chain drive.

My only advice is- keep it under some sort of warranty.

[menzies]

Which new Triumph's were on display?

[Nic in Western NYS]

Since there are errant eyes in this thread - new Honda V4 adventure tourer shaft drive.  http://powersports.honda.com/2016/vfr1200x.aspx

[canuguzzi]

That Honda is something else. V4 engines are the design to beat, offering huge power bands with torque and HP in spades.

Honda just upped the ante for everyone bar none.

[Nic in Western NYS]

That Honda is something else. V4 engines are the design to beat, offering huge power bands with torque and HP in spades.

Honda just upped the ante for everyone bar none.

I had one V4 - Honda Magna.  Its feel was nothing like an inline 4, much more like a 90 degree v twin.  Surprising to me that the v4 config isn't more widely used. 

[leafman60]

Since there are errant eyes in this thread - new Honda V4 adventure tourer shaft drive.  http://powersports.honda.com/2016/vfr1200x.aspx

Automatic transmission option.  Dual clutch.

This is a repackaged version of the slow-selling VFR.

[canuguzzi]

Interesting that they went to the V going lengthwise as opposed to the ST design. I get the reason but it sure harkens back to the early 80s layout although they aren't anything the same other than the V layout.

The V65 I had made gobs of power from 2000 to 10000 Rpms, was geared tall and was super smooth with just enough running feedback to make itself known. I always hoped they'd bring back that engine layout, looks like its here. Easily 100k mile engines with no more than oil changes and a once in a blue moon valve check.

Betting the service intervals are so far apart you'll need a reminder.

[leafman60]

V4 engines are the design to beat....

Honda just upped the ante for everyone bar none.

Highly debatable and subject to personal preference.

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[leafman60]

Wet weight on the Honda looks to be 606 pounds without saddlebags and crash bars etc. Heavier than a Stelvio when so equipped.

[Cage Free]

That Honda is something else. V4 engines are the design to beat, offering huge power bands with torque and HP in spades.

Honda just upped the ante for everyone bar none.

 
Ease and cost of maintenance is a priority for me, imagine what a valve adjust will cost on this bike.