Do you use glove liners or lined gloves?

[canuguzzi]

I've found that many linings seem to pull away from the glove or get worn and bunch up. I recently bought a pair of Hugger no-lined gloves and of all the gloves Ive had these fit the best. Being unlined, they are fair weather gloves although they are 100% waterproof.

Rode into the city the other day for service, temp outside was 28 degrees when I left. Even with grip heaters in full and the Stelvio brush guards the freeze set it quickly. The grip heaters actually did well but while the palms got toasty, the tops of the hands did not.

In the shop I ajsed them if they had glover liners, they did so I bought a pair. The ride back was so.much better, grip heaters on minimum and my hands never got cold at all. The brand was "Seirus". Very thin and form fitting, they do not bunch up and barely affect the glove's fit.

Lined gloves just never worked for me, the bulk, stiffness and all just make them uncomfortable to wear. Seems super thin liners and Hugger waterproof unlined gloves are the ticket.

BTW, they have a nice longer gauntlet which makes for a good wind seal over the jacket sleeve cuffs.

[guzzipete]

For most cold weather riding I use Cycle Gear Freeze Out glove liners and FirstGear Master gloves. The FirstGear gloves are not insulated, but pretty waterproof and windproof. If the temp gets down around freezing, I wear Cycle Gear's Hotwired heated glove liners under the FirstGear gloves. I have small hands and insulated gloves feel too bulky.

I have two bikes with heated grips and use them also. The V7 is not one of those.

[Doppelgaenger]

I have a pair of firstgear insulated and lined gloves that are nearly impossible to get back on once wet because the liner pulls halfway out when you pull your hand out. I've tried using the cyclegear glove liners and found that they are too bulky to be of much use and they don't add to the warmth enough to be worth it.

I finally bought Gerbing heated gloves this year and boy what a difference they make... The lining is fleece instead of fabric, so it doesn't shift much going in or out of the glove. They've also taught me that my FirstGear's glove insulation is crap since they're much warmer, even without the heating elements turned on.

Nothing but heated gloves from now on...

And before you rush out and buy Gerbing, bear in mind that the thumb is not heated on these, which was disappointing. It's still much better than any alternative though.

[Sasquatch Jim]

 No.

[kingoffleece]

Good luck with the Huggers.  Mine leaked in 2 minutes with heavy rain.

When it's that cold I use heated glove liners.  Works a treat.

[lost]

Under forty I use electric gloves. I have found heated grips are also good to around 40 and then the tops of the fingers get cold. Tried the Gerbing but they were not reliable so I went to sedici [or something like that] from Cycle Gear. They have 3 heat settings in the glove so no separate control required, plus they have a little light in each glove so you can see if they are working as well as what setting you are on. [Also a lot cheaper than the Gerbing.] Have had no problems with them.

Jim

[jumpmaster]

I discovered a few years ago that "Playtex Living Gloves" or the modern equivalent, worn over whatever gloves I stumbled out of the house with, work amazingly well in the cold as well as the wet.  Absolutely no cold air gets thru them & if they are the right size they aren't too clumsy on the controls.  On the other hand, they're a bi#@h to get on over the regular gloves without tearing them.  Heavier rubber gloves work, too, but they add more bulk to the gloves & can make moving the fingers around the controls quickly problematic.

[Sasquatch Jim]

  Back when I lived in the pacific north wet, I would go to the marine supply store and buy the insulated gloves that were designed for commercial fishermen.  I used them when aboard ships in winter and they work just as well for riding.
 I also wore commercial fishermens' rain gear made by Helly Hansen and rubber boots like I wore when commercial crab fishing.

[Zoom Zoom]

You can now find gloves that use something called Gore-Tex X-Trafit. All the different linings are bonded together keeping it from turning inside out when you pull them off. I bought a pair of BMW gloves that use this. They were actually very reasonable, ($129.00), and of course waterproof. I have heated liners for more cold conditions. Been real happy with the waterproof gloves.

John Henry

[JeffOlson]

  Back when I lived in the pacific north wet, I would go to the marine supply store and buy the insulated gloves that were designed for commercial fishermen.  I used them when aboard ships in winter and they work just as well for riding.
 I also wore commercial fishermens' rain gear made by Helly Hansen and rubber boots like I wore when commercial crab fishing.

Commercial fishermen know their waterproof gear! (My cousin fishes in Alaska in really foul weather.)

All of the expensive "water-proof" gear I have bought over the years at REI has leaked eventually.

Back on topic: "layers." Layering is the way to go if you want to stay warm. That goes for gloves, too. I wear glove liners, followed by gloves (followed by heated handgrips!). The layering allows a layer of warmer, insulating air between inner and outer layers...

[malik]

Lots of winter gloves over here come with the Thinsulate lining - feels good when all is dry, but once my hands are wet, I can't get my fingers in - so I avoid that lining in gloves. I have not had great success with liners - silk, merino, merino & possum, plain wool - they just don't seem to add much warmth to my hands. The Powerlet heated liners on the other hand, do add warmth, either off or on. One of the BMW gloves I have is waterproof for a hour or less, but the other set, not at all. None of the others seem to fare much better. When it's really bucketing down, I put the Overgloves (from New Zealand) on over unlined or minimally lined gloves, and if cold, the Powerlet liners as well.

I'm currently testing a set of Held Air n Dry - 2 chambers for the hand; one with a perforated palm, the other with goretex. They are comfortable & light, but I haven't yet had enough rain to test them seriously in the wet. http://heldaustralia.com.au/2015-livebook/ & http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/held-air-n-dry-gloves. Not cheap. They work OK in the heat - get wind on the palms. Unlikely to be a serious winter glove. I might have to try something serious from Rukka, eventually.

Mal

[Fuzzy]

When you are serious about being warm in the cold:
http://www.empirecanvasworks.com/icebikemittens.htm
Generally have to order them in August for the coming winter. Each pair is made by hand, so there aren't many of them.

[Tom]

I used silk gloves as liners but do most of my riding in warm weather.  Still have some U.S. Army cold weather mitts that have a trigger finger w/wool liner gloves.  The body is canvas and leather.  Works great in rain too.  Worked well in the Alps.

[charlie b]

When it is below 40F, electric gloves.  Above that I have some cheap Bilt winter gloves that work well.

I should qualify this.  I have largish hands and long fingers so finding gloves that fit can sometimes be difficult.  Until they came out with true XL and 2XL gloves I was stuck with ill fitting gloves.  The Gerbing gloves are BIG.  I got L cause I heard they were sized 'wrong' and the L is on the too big side.  I would probably do better with medium.  So, buy what the guys at Revzilla recommend.

I also like some padding in my gloves to keep the bar vibrations from screwing with my hands.  So, I like typical winter gloves and the layer of insulation they have between my hands and the grips.  I rarely do 'technical' riding on the twisties so they fit me just fine.

Having said that, many winter gloves have liners with seams in the wrong places or liners that come out when you pull off the gloves.

I am on my second pair of Bilt winter gloves (Hurricane, IIRC).  I get them on sale for less than $30.  The first pair lasted 5 years of heavy use (worn almost everyday from Sep thru May).  The liner always stayed put and they were easy on/off.  The cuff was nice and long and they were waterproof the few times I had them in real rain.  When I don't need the electric gloves, these are the ones I use.  FWIW, the palm side lining is a little thinner and they work very well with heated grips.

[Sheepdog]

I live in South Louisiana, so perhaps I'm not the best person to ask, but I have found a few things that work well for me over the years. First, I always seek a loose fit with winter gloves. Even the slightest tightness will inhibit blood flow and reduce your resistance to the cold. Also, I like deerskin or elk skin as an outer. They are a little thicker, yet soft and flexible and work really well with a light fogging of Scotchguard and some Mink Oil on the backs. Some lined gloves work better than others. The lined deerskin gauntlets from Aerostich are excellent and don't have excessive insulation. Olympia 4350 All-Season gloves are also top-drawer. My final trick is a classic solution...I add a water/wind proof layer. I keep a pair of Aerostich Three-Digit rain covers in my saddlebag and find that they are good for another 10 degrees of cold temps. They pack down so small that I often have a tough time finding them!

[drlapo]

I have an older pair of Belstaff waxed cotton overmittens that keep the cold and wet off whatever insulated gloves I wear
Haven't leaked in 30+ years

[O]

The lined deerskin gauntlets from Aerostich are excellent and don't have excessive insulation.

Just finished a couple hour test of an early x-mas present, the Aerostich lined elkskin gauntlets.  They're merino wool lined with a layer of something on top of the hand that blocks the wind, and they worked great.  My hands were toasty and felt no wind (mostly back roads, so only got up to about 60 mph).  Previous to these I had tried battery powered liners, but one of them shorted out and began to melt while I was wearing it after the third or fourth wear.  Think I'll stick with low-tech for the time being.

[jumpmaster]

Just finished a couple hour test of an early x-mas present, the Aerostich lined elkskin gauntlets.  They're merino wool lined with a layer of something on top of the hand that blocks the wind, and they worked great.  My hands were toasty and felt no wind (mostly back roads, so only got up to about 60 mph).  Previous to these I had tried battery powered liners, but one of them shorted out and began to melt while I was wearing it after the third or fourth wear.  Think I'll stick with low-tech for the time being.

I know this will be heresy to a certain segment of the riding community, but I just can't see spending 200-300% more for Aerostitch products for maybe 10-20% (if that) improvement in performance.  Maybe (probably) they were worth the price premium years ago, but the competition has improved dramatically &, in my opinion, offers much greater value for the money spent.  Of course, if I had an unlimited budget my perspective might be different...

[O]

I can't speak to all of Aerostich's products, but I'd be surprised if you can find a pair of lined elkskin leather gloves as well made and with the attention to detail of the pair I just got, certainly not for 1/3 or 1/2 the price (~$135), and definitely not made in the U.S.  I also have their unlined version for summer riding, and they're of the same quality/value.  As you wear them, they just get better.

I've had cheaply made gloves in the past that weren't exactly all that cheap in price, and they've fallen apart after one riding season, and worse, blown apart during a slow-speed slide. 

But hey, to each their own.  My experience is that paying for quality is actually cheaper in the long run.  (Hoping for that pair of red suspenders this year for x-mas, too.)   

[sturgeon]

I've got a pair of Aerostich unlined short elkskin gloves that have over 100,000 km on them. Still as functional as when they were new. So happy with them I bought another pair of the slightly longer ones with the padded knuckles. Just for when I travel in the US 

[jumpmaster]

I've got a pair of Aerostich unlined short elkskin gloves that have over 100,000 km on them. Still as functional as when they were new. So happy with them I bought another pair of the slightly longer ones with the padded knuckles. Just for when I travel in the US 

I've got a pair of "Brand X" (no idea who made them) winter gloves I bought at least 8 years ago for $20.00 + tax that have required only a little trimming of a few errant strands of thread & re-dying (with a shoe/boot leather dye applicator costing less than $5) of the fingers and gauntlet edges, after 60,000+ miles of use (probably 25K miles of actual wear, since they are too hot for the summer).  Still going strong.  Paying attention to regular care & maintenance can make even cheap gloves, & motorcycles for that matter, last quite awhile.  They're not high-tech, but they're the warmest non-electric gloves I've ever owned.