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You miss quoted me. Perhaps I needed a comma between the accessorized dressers and CVOs.I'm aware the CVOs are above $30k.They're the ONLY BIKES HARLEY SELLS that have an msrp above $30k.Everything else is below it.I admit some dressers may be accessorized to the point they break 30k, but they are likely in the minority of dresser sales (how about we guess 25% of them).So let's take a guess at hard numbers.~250,000 bikes per year.Fewer than 100,000 of them are dressers.If 25% are optioned above 30k that's fewer than 25,000 (and I suspect that's a ridiculously high estimate).Plus a couple thousand CVOs.So maybe 27-30k bikes per year vs. 250,000 bikes.Meaning maybe 12%.Or stated another way, a "relative few ".
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That's a Trike, not a bike, you can see why we're not discussing it.
In reply to your number 2."CVO's are very limited production.And $24-28k ain't $30k." No, you clearly said it, as quoted above, but I will give you that you meant otherwise, based on your claification. I don't really want to go on and on, countinuing a point for point, point, counter point with you. I know, and I hope you do to, that capitulation must be very, very difficult for you to do. I feel like I have know you for years, not that we have yet met in the flesh, but over time we get a flavor for each others styles and personalties. And I think you know I like you, and respect your opionions. And if you have one small failing its your inability to admit when you have come up just a bit short. The thing is, your usually right, more so than I am, I will venture to say! And on those rare occasions when you're not, you hold on like a starving man to a slice of Chicago style deep dish!I point this out here, now because I feel like I have clearly won this little pisser, but you will not concede. Knowing full well, that you will likely respond with more text of how you were right all along... But anyway I don't want to piss you off Kev, as I do feel you are a guy I know I could always depend on, and guy I know I would like to shoot the shit with on any given day. And, perhaps I'm a bit more like you than I want to admit, since I seem to be the one going on here about how I am right! Feel free to point out my failings, I have at least a couple, it's only fair.
OMG. Really? I sincerely hope you're just joking.
Not joking. I certainly don't think the statement that started all this was someone bragging how their Tonti Cali was quicker than a Trike?I'll have to check an annual report and see if they break those production numbers out or not.I don't get the impression they would have any real impact on our projected percentages though. But I don't claim to have any real data on their sales yet, just my perception that it is pretty small in the big picture of Harley.I certainly see many more Bombardier Spyders than I do Harley Trikes in a given time frame.
Kev, Kev, Kev. Not this time you don't. The original statement was that he enjoyed passing the 30K Harley. He didn't say he enjoyed passing the 30K two-wheel Harley. Again, This whole discussion was about one guy enjoying passing one 30K Harley. Sales numbers were never mentioned until you did. The issue was not whether it is or isn't possible for all of us to pass one whenever we're out riding. And you repeatedly argue that there aren't that many 30K Harleys. Even after I, and another poster from Chicago said there ARE many. You also stated that they don't exist without many options. Then someone posts the MSRPs that prove you wrong, you mention small sales numbers again. Whenever you make a wrong or difficult to defend statement in reply to one of our posts, you always turn it around on us and say things like "You miss quoted me" (when someone posts exactly what you said) How is that a misquote? And "I understand why you misunderstood the quote and took it out of context.." Two faults of the poster who didn't agree with you! Misunderstanding and taking something out of context! Amazing! Again, backpedaling and blaming the other person because you are never wrong. Those are just two examples, I read a few more, I just got lazy and didn't include them.
Yeah, no ... just no.I really have no NEED to be doing 90 mph even in a pass around here, never mind 100 mph, it just an un-necessary risk (not to say I haven't).I've had plenty of bikes that CAN run a 90 mph all day, but it is extremely stressful between worrying about traffic, cops, and unexpected obstacles (poor pavement, debris, animals) that I really have no interest.
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I suspect that's true in those little eastern states like New Jersey.There are thousands of miles of roads in west Texas where the posted limit is 75 mph. Hell, most of I-10 has a posted limit 80 mph+. If you run less than 10 over the limit everything will pass you.I've run some of those back roads for over a hour straight with the cruise on my Cali 1400 set at 90 mph.A couple buddies and I were pulled over on HWY 90 just west of Hondo for going too slow in the passing lane (we were running 5 over the limit). Sheriff told us we needed to stay in the slow lane if we were going to run that slow.
You think that HD could do something like this. i'd have to be careful no to get my converse laces caught in the sprocket- they're cool with that in Taipei, though.
My guess is in the relatively dense population centers where Kev lives the percentage of smaller bikes is higher , and out here in the middle , even the Chicago area , the BT series is more prominent due to more wide open spaces .
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Wow , so Bob Newhart . Dusty
I don't follow.
Time to move on you dorks! Anybody see the new Star Wars?
That was the point , seems no one is actually reading what is being written by others . Bob Newhart makes sense in this context . Sorry , my laughing emo isn't working . Dusty
And mine is 8", at least that's what I have convinced my wife, since she seems completely inept at measuring anything at all!
