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Re: When you happen upon an emergency
« Reply #30 on: February 12, 2016, 08:56:59 PM »
A phone with no service or no SIM card is known as a "911 only cell" and we (911 people) CANNOT call those phones back. When we get a call from one of those, the phone number that shows up has an area code of 911 and 7 random numbers for the rest of it.  It may be different in other countries, but here in the US of A, no can do.

We did it. There is a way. I won't say how because it would cause "problems", it can however, be done.

A phone with no service subscription can also be located if the phone is turned on but not in use.

The service providers like Verizon, T-Mobile and Sprint can also send a text message to a phone with no subscription service. No, the clerk behind the counter can't tell you how.

Also, the no-service phone can be located via it's longitude and latitude, accuracy varying but often within a few hundred yards at most.

To the last post: no-service phone does not mean the phone can't make a call, it means that if it isn't subscribed to a service provider, it can still make emergency calls. The phone does not need to have a regular phone number or paid for service to make 911 calls.

The numbers after the 911 are not random, they can be decoded.

You would be amazed at what the service providers can access on any phone, with a subscription or not. How much of that a particular 911 center can also access depends on where it is, at what level it operates and it's agreements with service providers. Not all 911 call centers are the same or have the same capabilities.

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Re: When you happen upon an emergency
« Reply #31 on: February 12, 2016, 09:15:44 PM »
The two occasions I have used 911 from a cell phone, they didn't even know what county I was in. The GPS upload from a cellphone is so bad, it is almost a joke. And to expect it to work on a phone that has been turned off, so it hasn't had a current GPS catalog download in weeks or month. Hah. Forget it.
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Re: When you happen upon an emergency
« Reply #32 on: February 12, 2016, 11:13:30 PM »

You would be amazed at what the service providers can access on any phone, with a subscription or not. How much of that a particular 911 center can also access depends on where it is, at what level it operates and it's agreements with service providers. Not all 911 call centers are the same or have the same capabilities.

I would imagine that if we truly needed to do that, we could call Verizon, or AT&T or who ever, and jump through the hoops to get it done. They are pretty good about pinging phones and helping with other stuff, but if there was a way, during a real life and death emergency, that we could call them and make it happen, that would be magical. They've always told us it couldn't be done.  Learn somethin' new everyday.  I'll have to look into that.  Thanks!

And you're right about centers capabilities.  We are pretty low tech.  No way to do 911 texts.  Our new phone system 'should' be able to handle it, but we don't have the rest of the hardware in place yet. I think there are only a handful of centers in WA state that can.  I see the value in that, but I am really not looking forward to it.  I'm too old for this crap.  hahahaha  And the day we get video capability is the day i walk out the door for good.  Admin would certainly give me the boot in the backside if some callers could see my facial expressions.    :rolleyes:
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