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scooter prejudice
« on: February 28, 2016, 01:12:21 PM »
its a minor insignificant point.  but do you wave to scooters when you ride?  when i'm on the goose i wave to all the bikers, but rarely if ever the scooter people.  but yesterday it was pleasant here and i took my 150cc honda scoot for a ride.  and it was a hit, the post office, the convenience store,  the grocery story.  and i got two waves from harley guys.  one with apes.  of course i think i was about 2/5 overall.  of course its possible they think im a chick.  i wear a full face helmet..its hard to look manly on the scooter.  its the riding position.   :boozing:

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Re: scooter prejudice
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2016, 02:04:01 PM »
Here, we tend to nod more than wave.
Not a straight up and down nod, but more of a lopsided nod as if you are winking.
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Re: scooter prejudice
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2016, 02:12:58 PM »
Everyone on 2 wheels gets a noddie
I'm even known to acknowledge car drivers when they successfully don't kill me  :wink:
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Re: scooter prejudice
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2016, 02:16:40 PM »
I wave at everybody: motorcycle riders, scooterists, bicyclists, farmers, housewives, people checking their mail, police officers, mail carriers, little kids, etc. Most of them even wave back...

However, (sadly) I don't seem to get the love when I ride the Piaggio...not even from scooterists.
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Re: scooter prejudice
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2016, 02:23:43 PM »
Never much cared about who waves at me or not. I just like to ride, whether on my scooter or motorcycle.

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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2016, 02:32:44 PM »
Hey, nothing wrong with a quality-built good handling, reliable scooter. But scooter riders normally don't see motorcyclists waving to them. The shock might cause an accident!

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Re: scooter prejudice
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2016, 03:00:00 PM »
I acknowledge every one on 2 or 3 wheels. The wife really laughs when I forget I'm in the car & lift a couple fingers off the wheel @ an oncoming bike.  :embarrassed:

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Re: scooter prejudice
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2016, 03:12:14 PM »
I also wave at everyone, scooters included.  Bicyclists on expensive road bikes tend not to wave back and HD riders also sometimes don't return the courtesy but most people do return the wave.  People on riding mowers, tractors etc. almost always wave.  A surprising number of women out in their lawns or walking return a wave.  I enjoy doing it for some reason.

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Re: scooter prejudice
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2016, 03:21:34 PM »
Bicyclists on expensive road bikes tend not to wave back

Funny, when I'm on my expensive road bike and wave at motorcycle riders, I'd say only about half of them wave back.  I don't remember ever having a motorcycle rider wave at me while I was on the expensive road bike.  Go figure.
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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2016, 04:05:01 PM »
When on my Vespa it is normally suite a surprise to recieve a wave, so I'm usually late waving back!  A large percentage of riders around here are posers who would rather get kicked in the nuts than wave at "scooter queers".
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Re: scooter prejudice
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2016, 04:09:38 PM »
Whether I am riding my motorcycle or my scooter, I give the two-fingered wave to everyone I see riding a two-wheeled motorized vehicle. Almost all of them wave back, regardless of what I am riding, and regardless of what they are riding.

As for bicyclists, I wave to ordinary people riding ordinary bicycles, but I don't bother waving to professional bicycle racers--you know, the ones with their team sponsors emblazoned on their jerseys. They are usually too busy, going to fast, and their pants are all wrong.
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Re: scooter prejudice
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2016, 04:14:31 PM »
Two finger wave? Pointing at the ground? Never done that. Thought it was weird. Still do.

I wave like I'm saying "Hi!"

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Re: scooter prejudice
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2016, 04:19:04 PM »
I generally wave to all two wheelers. Don't ride in towns or cities much anymore so I do not meet many scooter folk. I make an extra effort to wave at young scooter riders as it may be their first riding experience and I want it to be as positive as possible for them.
Waving is also a fun way to break the boredom on straight stretches and see what the responses will be. I have noticed that almost all H-D solo riders will wave or return one, somewhat less when they are in groups. GW riders are about 50/50. When on my T-3 I get few BMW rider waves but almost everyone else does but when on the Norge I get a much higher percentage of BMW rider waves. I think until it is to late they think I am another BMW rider.
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« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2016, 04:52:16 PM »
I can't help but give a sign of some sort or other to riders of most anything if there is any dolce vita goin' on with them. Posture, enthusiastic riding, giddy waves and even simple finger waves... the pleasant kind - they all get me and get something from me regardless of the ride.


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« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2016, 04:53:57 PM »
I wave to everyone on two wheels. Nod to bicyclists. Most of us around the Puget Sound who ride all year, like to encourage and acknowledge the other crazies riding in the rain. Even Harley folks wave back, until summer time and then lots don't. I wave because that's me, not so they'll wave back. When I started riding in the 60's there weren't many of us around so we always acknowledged each other.
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Re: scooter prejudice
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2016, 04:58:19 PM »
no one likes bicyclists.  i think its the pants.   :tongue:

Huh... I never thought to try riding without pants.  Maybe I'll get more waves that way.
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« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2016, 05:14:57 PM »
This is a great thread. I ride a bicycle, soon I hope a motorcycle too - NOT both at once! - and I had not thought to wave from a bicycle to a motorcyclist or vice in a Versys, That is a great idea. I have noticed that drop bar bicycle riders rarely wave back at me. Too bad for them I suppose.

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« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2016, 05:32:45 PM »
Absolutely give the scooteristi a greeting.  Sometimes they seem surprised, other times they seem preoccupied.  I've given up greeting bicyclists - I don't think they view us as comrades.
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« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2016, 05:41:22 PM »
I wouldn't be offended if the whole waving, nodding, sticking a leg out thing went away :thumb:
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Re: scooter prejudice
« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2016, 05:47:08 PM »
Most riders of any motorized bike would return waves to me when I was riding my Honda reflex scooter.

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« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2016, 05:51:03 PM »
Bicyclists and I don't wave to each other.  I only wave to scooterists if they wave first as many aren't even aware of the 'wave'.  When I'm on my MCs I will wave to anyone who waves 1st.  When on my maxi-scooters I wave to the maxi-scooters and sometimes they wave back.  I have an Aprilia 500GT scooter that from the front doesn't even look like a scooter and many HD riders wave to me 'cause they know it's not a Jap. bike. It looks like a euro touring bike  On my MPs I wave to other trikes and usually get a wave back.

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Re: scooter prejudice
« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2016, 05:59:26 PM »
  I give them all the Shaka.
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« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2016, 06:00:56 PM »
Oh no! I have RA and cannot return that! At least without screaming a lot.

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« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2016, 06:05:46 PM »
what can they possibly be preoccupied with?  that there is no clutch ??
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« Reply #24 on: February 28, 2016, 06:36:27 PM »
  I give them all the Shaka.

Yeah but currently, you have the time to motor one-handed Brah!

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« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2016, 06:53:32 PM »
tis not speed my brother.  its anticipation.
True to a point.  You can anticipate all you want, if you don't have the horses to put distance between you and the point of contact, it's bad bad bad.  Imagine the anticipation needed to be a pedestrian navigating down a highway lane.   
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« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2016, 07:03:59 PM »
Interestingly do you know who I get the most waves from when I'm riding my Vespa?  Harley dudes!  Go figure.  BMW riders never wave at my Vespa.  But wait, BMW riders never wave at my Guzzis either.  Guess they are non-discriminating pricks.
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Re: scooter prejudice
« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2016, 07:15:52 PM »
its a minor insignificant point.  but do you wave to scooters when you ride?  when i'm on the goose i wave to all the bikers, but rarely if ever the scooter people.  but yesterday it was pleasant here and i took my 150cc honda scoot for a ride.  and it was a hit, the post office, the convenience store,  the grocery story.  and i got two waves from harley guys.  one with apes.  of course i think i was about 2/5 overall.  of course its possible they think im a chick.  i wear a full face helmet..its hard to look manly on the scooter.  its the riding position.   :boozing:

I have to all motorcycles, trikes, and scooters, except for those with ape Hangers, as they rarely wave back.   I guess it is hard enough to control a bike with apes with both hands, much less one.

I don't seem to get any less waves riding our Vespa than any of my motorcycles.

Interestingly do you know who I get the most waves from when I'm riding my Vespa?  Harley dudes!  Go figure.

Our Vespa is as much a conversation starter as my V7's.    It starts way more conversations from people not on motorcycles or scooters, but, also many on motorcycles and scooters, even Harleys.    All have been positive conversations.     Once, I was loading groceries into the top case and under the seat of the Vespa, a Harley pulled up, and said, "I need to get one of them, for grocery & beer runs!"

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Re: scooter prejudice
« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2016, 07:24:56 PM »
I wave to all. It pleases me.
Even better if I get a wave or an acknowledging nod back!!
On my mountain bike I wave at the leaves, it's hit or miss weather they wave back..
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Re: scooter prejudice
« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2016, 07:34:50 PM »
Not a wave but. . .

. . . I stopped in to a convenience store in Cordes, which is not far from my home while riding my Honda Reflex. As I pulled into a space I noticed a Sportster and as I was removing helmet and jacket to enter the store the rider came out. He gazed at me and my bike with a look that I could not really identify, but which was obviously one of some degree of dismissal. So I spoke to him, saying that I was glad to get off the road; that nearly all of my near four hundred miles had been desert and that it was around one hundred and ten out there. He looked at the luggage on the scooter's rack and then looked back at me. Now that look I understood. Respect. Scooter equality.


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