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Re: scooter prejudice
« Reply #30 on: February 28, 2016, 07:39:47 PM »


However, you shouldn't wave to Scooter badasses.

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Re: scooter prejudice
« Reply #31 on: February 28, 2016, 07:44:58 PM »

However, you shouldn't wave to Scooter badasses.

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Re: scooter prejudice
« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2016, 08:01:17 PM »
I wave to people riding horses and sulkies (yes, I spend time in an area where one encounters sulkies on public roads).

I also often wish good day while passing fellow pedestrians on the street.

This motorbike wavy thing reminds me of something that Groucho Marx once said.



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Re: scooter prejudice
« Reply #33 on: February 28, 2016, 09:47:32 PM »
I honestly think that my love of motorcycles originated as a love of bicycles. Even at my advanced age, I split my time just about evenly between the two...

Oh...and if you spend more than 30 minutes on a bicycle, the funny pants start to make sense. The padding and the aerodynamics really make a difference on a long ride.
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« Reply #34 on: February 28, 2016, 10:35:25 PM »
I honestly think that my love of motorcycles originated as a love of bicycles. Even at my advanced age, I split my time just about evenly between the two...

Oh...and if you spend more than 30 minutes on a bicycle, the funny pants start to make sense. The padding and the aerodynamics really make a difference on a long ride.

Ahh youth. I'd go to school and suffer for being autistically different. Home was no safe refuge with dad ready to beat sis and I to bloodiness at any moment. My bicycle! My bicycle was two wheeled freedom. With that great tool of liberty I found that real safety is not about walls and locks, but about the ability to simply not be there when the hammer might fall. Bicycles are powerful magic to me, and yes the motorcycle is an extension of that.

I recall a phrase from a motorcycle magazine of so long ago. "...blow the cobwebs out of my mind. . ." Yeah. Two wheels is special.

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Re: scooter prejudice
« Reply #35 on: February 28, 2016, 11:09:02 PM »
Oh...and if you spend more than 30 minutes on a bicycle, the funny pants start to make sense. The padding and the aerodynamics really make a difference on a long ride.

Sit on a wrinkle for 20 or 30 miles and you'll wish you didn't have to.  Do it for 100 and you might be bleeding.
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« Reply #36 on: February 28, 2016, 11:12:45 PM »
Sit on a wrinkle for 20 or 30 miles and you'll wish you didn't have to.  Do it for 100 and you might be bleeding.

A comfy saddle is a must. My current bike is fitted with a Brooks Flyer (Essentially classic B 17 leather with width adjustment and very stiff springs to protect my back.) atop a micro adjust carbon fibre post. Works well.

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Re: scooter prejudice
« Reply #37 on: February 28, 2016, 11:18:58 PM »
Absoluetely.   Luckily my rear end has always done well with a decent leather covered nylon saddle, so I don't have to have a 4 pound Brooks!  But needling aside ( :laugh:) I've used Fizik saddles for 15 years or so, and found them very comfortable.  Their customer service is excellent, too.
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« Reply #38 on: February 28, 2016, 11:21:44 PM »
Absoluetely.   Luckily my rear end has always done well with a decent leather covered nylon saddle, so I don't have to have a 4 pound Brooks!  But needling aside ( :laugh:) I've used Fizik saddles for 15 years or so, and found them very comfortable.  Their customer service is excellent, too.

yeah, I will admit that my Brooks weighs as much as a good carbon bike.
That's okay. Bike is a medium range hybrid - Giant Escape 2W - set up for touring and grocery getting. No way could I run the sort of speed I did 40 years ago anyway.

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Re: scooter prejudice
« Reply #39 on: February 28, 2016, 11:25:58 PM »
Tomorrow, I will be riding many miles in the rain. I plan to wave at everyone else who is riding a motorized two-wheeled vehicle in the rain like me. I imagine all of them will wave back.

In nice weather, it is different. Nothing against fair-weather riders, but foul-weather riders really notice one another. There seems to be more of a spirit of camaraderie.
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« Reply #40 on: February 28, 2016, 11:27:31 PM »
Tomorrow, I will be riding many miles in the rain. I plan to wave at everyone else who is riding a motorized two-wheeled vehicle in the rain like me. I imagine all of them will wave back.

In nice weather, it is different. Nothing against fair-weather riders, but foul-weather riders really notice one another. There seems to be more of a spirit of camaraderie.

Want to know a thing that impresses me about Guzzi riders? Ya'all still ride in the rain. That is getting rare nowadays.

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« Reply #41 on: February 28, 2016, 11:34:15 PM »
Want to know a thing that impresses me about Guzzi riders? Ya'all still ride in the rain. That is getting rare nowadays.

 We had 84 inches of rain last year , I rode on more rainy days than non rainy days . In fact , over the last 4 years I've made probably 30 trips between home and NW Arkansas , seems like it has rained , or been cold , on at least half those trips . Doesn't everyone do this ?

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« Reply #42 on: February 28, 2016, 11:36:51 PM »
We had 84 inches of rain last year , I rode on more rainy days than non rainy days . In fact , over the last 4 years I've made probably 30 trips between home and NW Arkansas , seems like it has rained , or been cold , on at least half those trips . Doesn't everyone do this ?

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There is a difference between one who owns a motorcycle and a motorcyclist. Motorcyclists go out in the rain. I think many people now just own bikes. Motorcyclists are better.

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Re: scooter prejudice
« Reply #43 on: February 29, 2016, 04:52:01 AM »
I used to commute my Norton between Houston and Beaumont. What I learned was that any given time, it is raining somewhere on that stretch of I-10...

Also, I use Brooks B17 saddles on all my bicycles. Weight be damned; those are the most comfy seats made for a long ride. I also bring along a spoke tool, a chain tool, a combo wrench, a full-length pump, and a spare tube...
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Re: scooter prejudice
« Reply #44 on: February 29, 2016, 05:56:31 AM »
Tomorrow, I will be riding many miles in the rain. I plan to wave at everyone else who is riding a motorized two-wheeled vehicle in the rain like me. I imagine all of them will wave back.

In nice weather, it is different. Nothing against fair-weather riders, but foul-weather riders really notice one another. There seems to be more of a spirit of camaraderie.
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Re: scooter prejudice
« Reply #45 on: February 29, 2016, 12:10:32 PM »
I don't ride in the rain unless I have to.  At least now I have the proper rain gear.  :grin:

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« Reply #46 on: February 29, 2016, 12:42:32 PM »
I don't ride in the rain unless I have to.  At least now I have the proper rain gear.  :grin:

It can be cold and wet, especially if one forgets the rain gear!

Fortunately, I do have a car, so if it is really bad outside, or if I just don't feel like it, I can drive my sled. Still, I usually prefer riding, even in rain.

This morning, it rained a little, and the temperature was about 45 degrees. I suited up and rode to work, happy to be on my Norge! Too bad there were no other motorcyclists or scooter riders at 6 am to wave at.
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Re: scooter prejudice
« Reply #47 on: February 29, 2016, 01:07:30 PM »
Tomorrow, I will be riding many miles in the rain. I plan to wave at everyone else who is riding a motorized two-wheeled vehicle in the rain like me. I imagine all of them will wave back.

In nice weather, it is different. Nothing against fair-weather riders, but foul-weather riders really notice one another. There seems to be more of a spirit of camaraderie.

Same goes for cold weather.   I did a couple of sub-freezing rides this winter.   Every rider returned the wave, all three of them.    :grin:

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Re: scooter prejudice
« Reply #48 on: February 29, 2016, 01:21:36 PM »
A comfy saddle is a must. My current bike is fitted with a Brooks Flyer (Essentially classic B 17 leather with width adjustment and very stiff springs to protect my back.) atop a micro adjust carbon fibre post. Works well.

Brooks Flyer??  Don't you have to wear wool shorts & chamois with a flyer?

Geez, I gave those up many decades ago. 

Sella San Marco Regal all the way for me.  I even have one with springs for my fixed cog!

As to waving to Scooters, every time.  My youngest rides a Scarabeo 150 that we resurrected, was stolen and broken, then fixed and runs great.  I'd be careful what I'd call him @ 195lbs of muscle he'd cause a lot of damage if he got mad

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Re: scooter prejudice
« Reply #49 on: February 29, 2016, 01:38:46 PM »
no one likes bicyclists.  i think its the pants.   :tongue:
I take exclusion, my other two-wheeled vehicle is a racing bike, and I wear funny shorts when I ride it.

My wave is sort of an index finger pointing outward rather than down.  I usually wave to other motorcyclists unless I'm in the middle of doing something that takes both hands; then, I might nod instead.  I also wave to scooters, bicycles, and neighbors walking their dogs, especially when they're young, slim, and blonde (the walkers, not the dogs).  The scooter riders are often young and impressionable, and they smile with pride when a "real" motorcyclist waves at them.  However, I'm ambivalent about waving to trikes.   I'll certainly wave if they do first, but initiate a wave?  Like I said, I'm ambivalent about trikes.
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Re: scooter prejudice
« Reply #50 on: February 29, 2016, 01:45:28 PM »
I typically wave (first) at all types of bikes when on either of my Vespas or Guzzi. Most wave back about equally around here regardless of which I'm riding. Actually, my heavily patina-ed Vespa P200e gets a lot of respect wherever I go.



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« Reply #51 on: February 29, 2016, 02:00:16 PM »
^ Nice!
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« Reply #52 on: February 29, 2016, 03:32:14 PM »
P200e! Got my respect, a bit of lust too.

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« Reply #53 on: February 29, 2016, 03:50:01 PM »
I wave at just about everybody on two wheels, two fingers down as in rubber side down😎
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« Reply #54 on: February 29, 2016, 03:52:06 PM »
I just went bicycling, up to Page Springs. Waved or nodded twice. Each HD rider waved or nodded back.

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Re: scooter prejudice
« Reply #55 on: February 29, 2016, 05:35:12 PM »
I'm a wool shorts and jersey man meself and I like a Brooks but prefer the Selle on the Serotta.

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« Reply #56 on: February 29, 2016, 05:40:30 PM »
I used to ride a 125 Vino (11hp). Most cagers want YOU behind them quickly as possible.  :boozing:

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« Reply #57 on: February 29, 2016, 05:48:58 PM »
I wave at just about everybody on two wheels, two fingers down as in rubber side down😎
Ah, so that's what it's supposed to signify.  I thought that is an Italian version of the one-finger salute.
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« Reply #58 on: February 29, 2016, 05:50:49 PM »
Forty five years ago when I first started long distance road riding there were not a lot of bikes out there doing the same thing. To see another bike loaded down with gear out on the road didn't happen often. The wave was an acknowledgement that you were brothers in arms doing something many others didn't. It was something shared because we were on the same trip. Didn't matter what you were riding. The general public thought you were nuts and/or some kind of mad dog rebel they saw in bad biker movies. Over the years all of that has changed. Five star hotels have motorcycle parking now. Bikes are so common people rarely notice them. The wave is still with us and to me as an old biker it still means the same thing. So I wave to any and all two wheelers on the road. Even bicyclists. We are all out sharing the feel and risks that make two wheel travel our addiction. After all only bikers truly understand why dogs love to stick their heads out the window. :thumb:     
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Re: scooter prejudice
« Reply #59 on: March 01, 2016, 10:23:03 AM »
Two finger wave? Pointing at the ground? Never done that. Thought it was weird. Still do.

I wave like I'm saying "Hi!"

It's a Harley thing. One finger for every rebuild I believe. Average is two I suppose...

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