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contemplating Tuono
« on: February 29, 2016, 08:53:36 AM »
Have had the v4 on the wish lists for a while now and may soon have the chance to make it happen. Been doing all the usual research and have been to seacoast several times since the cali purchase two years ago just to talk to the good folks there ,and some current owners. Haven't heard too many negatives other than fuel range and rear tire consumption. The problem for me is of course the unknowns and having to part ways with the griso that I have really loved so far. I just don't have the space or the need to own both, so something has to give. The other fly in the ointment is the fact that I have a BMW dealer one mile from my house and the s1000r is basically the same as the tuono spec wise, and has heated grips and cruise control. However I have never been a big fan of the in line 4's and have always had a thing for the Italian v4. As much as the convenience of a close dealership would be , (Seacoast is an hour and a half away, one way) I would much prefer to give Seacoast my purchase as I have been so well treated there. Surprisingly sitting on the Tuono is strikingly similar to the griso, the wide bars, reach over the tank and even the dash is nearly identical. On the down side for me is chain drive or the fact I will be at the mercy of the dealer for valve adjustment and major services. The new Tuono has a 12,000 mile valve intervals so i think I could live with that. Any helpful guidance,insight would be greatly appreciated. TIA  dave

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Re: contemplating Tuono
« Reply #1 on: February 29, 2016, 09:31:17 AM »
Enormous fun! If I was thirty years younger I'd be all over one! Like riding a bomb!

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Re: contemplating Tuono
« Reply #2 on: February 29, 2016, 09:41:42 AM »
I was on the Snake on Mullholland riding the Mighty Scura when I suddenly noticed someone behind me. First time in a long time.. :smiley: Eased to the side and motioned him on by. He stopped at the Rock Store, and I pulled in and we shot the sh!t for a while. He was on a Tuono, and was doing a test for a magazine. He said it was stupid fun, maybe the most fun he'd had on a motorcycle. It *did* have an electronic issue, but was sorted by the dealer.
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Re: contemplating Tuono
« Reply #3 on: February 29, 2016, 09:44:23 AM »
Enormous fun! If I was thirty years younger I'd be all over one! Like riding a bomb!

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Thanks Pete. It's nice to see you back. I am torn about giving up the Griso as it's been my best bike to date. Any known reliability issues on the new apes to be concerned about?

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Re: contemplating Tuono
« Reply #4 on: February 29, 2016, 09:46:29 AM »
Thanks Chuck, I'll take that as two :thumb:

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Re: contemplating Tuono
« Reply #5 on: February 29, 2016, 09:49:47 AM »
AF1 had some great deals on some year old bikes. 
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Re: contemplating Tuono
« Reply #6 on: February 29, 2016, 10:05:10 AM »
My experience owning a Ducati Diavel for several years led me to the surprising conclusion that an ultra high performance bike, while hugely entertaining doing what it's designed for, is not necessarily a very good daily rider. The Diavel was never happy below 4000 rpm, so I could ride around all day and never see fourth gear, and the experience was never mellow (if that's at all important to you). In other words, consider not just what it can do, but what you want it to do, day in, day out.

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Re: contemplating Tuono
« Reply #7 on: February 29, 2016, 10:27:09 AM »
To visit performance land (space warp) on that bike you are looking at increased numbers of traffic citations and corresponding increases to your insurance.  And you know you are going to go there!

Honestly I've only had the Griso for a couple of weeks but I'm having trouble keeping it the legal ranges. I can't imagine what one of those monsters would do to my driving record.   :evil:

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Re: contemplating Tuono
« Reply #8 on: February 29, 2016, 01:11:56 PM »
not to rain on the parade but I rode one of these a couple months ago and it was surprisingly unintimidating machine that probably has 90% of the beans of the Tuono and to my eyes has a little more sport touring feel and wind protection. 

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Re: contemplating Tuono
« Reply #9 on: February 29, 2016, 01:29:59 PM »
I had considered the same trade from a Griso to Tuono but the Guzzi will still be cool 20 years from now.  Decided I didn't need the extra power and I've given up on track days due to $$$

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Re: contemplating Tuono
« Reply #10 on: February 29, 2016, 01:30:32 PM »
Thanks for the reply's. There is no question that keeping the genie in the bottle is difficult with bikes like the davial , griso and I am sure the tuono. I have had to learn a lot about self control with the griso's tall gearing and constant will to go faster. After a warning last summer for going 70 in a 50 I hopefully will be able to keep it under control this summer. I am being told that the 2016 v4 has been re tuned for more road friendly manners in the lower range and it can be a decent daily ride, and then there's the other side. :evil: The things that appeal to me on the tuono are the similarities to the griso with the added electronics, quick shift and abs, as well as the fact I have never owned a liquid, fan cooled bike. Perhaps there will be no need to shut it down while stuck in traffic. Also I kind of like the ability of being able to change the final drive ratio easily. As we all know , anything with more than 50 hp can be a license shredder, I don't see that as a reason not to venture into the unknown. Hopefully the temptation to use its full ability will be controllable, at least until we can get it to the track. Still on the fence with the trade but it sure is tempting, damn those Italians!  :grin:

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Re: contemplating Tuono
« Reply #11 on: February 29, 2016, 01:40:44 PM »
Your not alone with the V4 lust.  Just be aware that the valve adjustments take the longest of any bike I've looked at say 1.5 times a Duc shop time

Still, being an older fella I've been dreaming of a Falco.  I think I can handle the riding position for touring so I'd only have to do a valve check/adjustment every other year.



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Re: contemplating Tuono
« Reply #12 on: February 29, 2016, 02:10:08 PM »
Wow that falco is beautiful. Is that a v4 also?

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Re: contemplating Tuono
« Reply #13 on: February 29, 2016, 02:29:10 PM »
No it's a 'prilly with a V2 and fewer valves to mess with.
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Re: contemplating Tuono
« Reply #14 on: February 29, 2016, 04:33:54 PM »
I want one too. But I'd lose my licence pronto, or toss it into the weeds.

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Re: contemplating Tuono
« Reply #15 on: February 29, 2016, 04:48:09 PM »
Guy at the gym bought a new 2015 Tuono last fall for $13,500. He's 50 year old. Think that was about the time I traded the Busa in for a slower FJR.  Can't wait to compare bikes in the parking lot this spring (me Norge). :popcorn:

Today my body couldn't handle a Tuono for more than 20 miles.  :boozing:

I'd rather have one of these. 

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Re: contemplating Tuono
« Reply #16 on: February 29, 2016, 05:19:57 PM »
Thanks all, now I'm thoroughly confused. Gonna sleep on it and talk some more with seacoast tomorrow. I just read that Aprilia has yet to fix the plastic tank, ethanol problem, hope that's not the case. They did give me a really fair trade value on my 09 griso which surprised me and kinda started this whole thought process. If I weren't so fond of the griso this would be a lot easier decision. Appreciate all the input.  dave

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Re: contemplating Tuono
« Reply #17 on: February 29, 2016, 05:30:42 PM »
A lot of bikes gets bought 'between the ears' during the winter.  Once it warms and you get back on the Griso you may just say waht was I thinking.  Then Maybe not, just a thought.
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Re: contemplating Tuono
« Reply #18 on: February 29, 2016, 05:42:03 PM »
I bought a new leftover Tuono (twin/not the four cylinder version) several years ago and it was a blast to ride and I had zero problems with it.  However, out of the approximately 50 bikes that I've owned since 1969, it was the only one that scared me so badly (due to the power) that I sold it a little over six months later.  Coming out of a tight turn and rolling on the throttle would result in the front wheel coming off the ground due to the massive torque.  I had to be sooooo careful with the throttle that I could envision myself going over the side of one of the many mountain roads that I routinely ride on.  I'm 6'1"/205 pounds so I'm not a lightweight and the Tuono twin had so much power & torque that I decided that it was too much bike for me.  I warned the man who bought it and hopefully, he's still alive and well but I don't ever want another bike with this much power.  BTW: I've also owned a Griso and the hp & torque was strong but it was nothing like the Tuono.  I suspect that the V4 Tuono has even more hp & torque than the V2 model.  If you decide to buy it, be super-duper judicious with the use of the throttle because that power curve comes on like a gorilla jumping out of a tree. 
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Re: contemplating Tuono
« Reply #19 on: February 29, 2016, 05:57:55 PM »
The Aprilia forum has all the things to look for plus great folks (just like here) that will provide guidance.
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Re: contemplating Tuono
« Reply #20 on: February 29, 2016, 06:22:55 PM »
The Aprilia forum has all the things to look for plus great folks (just like here) that will provide guidance.

Thanks jbell, I was just over there and read that the v4 will make you a better lover, a happier person and your private parts bigger. I guess that's on the plus side. :grin:

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« Reply #21 on: February 29, 2016, 06:35:28 PM »
I had a BMW K1200r for a few years.  Similar horsepower to a Tuono.  Just waaaay to fast.  Sold it in 2011 after back to back weekend encounters with the Gillespie County Sheriff.

You would think at my age I could control myself.  (Hi, my name is Mike and I AM a speedacholic).

Get the dealer to throw in a defensive driving class as part of the package.  :grin:
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Re: contemplating Tuono
« Reply #22 on: February 29, 2016, 07:07:48 PM »
Thanks jbell, I was just over there and read that the v4 will make you a better lover, a happier person and your private parts bigger. I guess that's on the plus side. :grin:

Well, there ya go. What's not to like about that?  :smiley: Life is short. If you haven't had a go with a super bike, just do it. You'll know whether it's for you or not.. shortly.  :smiley: Remember "stupid fun" ?
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Re: contemplating Tuono
« Reply #23 on: February 29, 2016, 07:36:25 PM »
Thanks for the sound advice Mike, and thank you Chuck for being the :evil: advocate. :grin: I thought I outgrew this b.s. years ago , but I'm kinda glad I still get impulsive once in a great while. Your absolutely right Chuck, sometimes we just got learn our own lessons.

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« Reply #24 on: February 29, 2016, 09:15:40 PM »
Well, there ya go. What's not to like about that?  :smiley: Life is short. If you haven't had a go with a super bike, just do it. You'll know whether it's for you or not.. shortly.  :smiley: Remember "stupid fun" ?
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And from all I've read about the Tuono it really is an RSV4 Superbike without the plastic.  If you've never owned a balls out, zero to sixty in under 3 seconds, power wheelie capable in the first three gears, peel your skin off top speed bike, you need to. 
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Re: contemplating Tuono
« Reply #25 on: February 29, 2016, 10:00:01 PM »
The Aprilia forum is a good source for problems, repairs and warranty work that has been done on various models. To me their electronics are way too complex. I was tempted by an RSV1000, Bol D'or a few weeks ago, but it would be much too hard to let go of the Daytona!
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Re: contemplating Tuono
« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2016, 11:05:17 AM »
Decision made. 2016 tuono 1100 factory to replace the mighty griso. Seacoast knows how to make a deal happen, great bunch. Now for some counseling.  :copcar: Thanks for all the opinions! 

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« Reply #27 on: March 01, 2016, 11:07:31 AM »
Congrats! Careful, now..  :copcar: :smiley:
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« Reply #28 on: March 01, 2016, 12:16:00 PM »
Congratulations!  Enjoy!  :thumb: :thumb:
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Re: contemplating Tuono
« Reply #29 on: March 01, 2016, 12:45:22 PM »
Thank you guys , will definitely miss the griso, at least till I get over it. Will give a ride report and a few pics when it arrives. Thinking about taping a copy of my drivers license to the tank as a reminder. :grin: Not to crazy about the greasy chain thingy but it is what it is. Only hope it is as reliable as the Guzzis have been for me. Should be fun trying to ride this thing with my daughter on her v 50. Thought about keeping the Griso for her but got over ruled.  :thewife:

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