incredible stupid road rage bike vs cage

[redrider90]

Who is more stupid the cage who is extremely aggressive vs the bike who should have either found a high traffic zone and spit traffic or just pulled into a gas station. But going down the opposite side of the street at high speed is pretty darn stupid. The biker sure wasn't using all his power to get away from this guy. Not saying I would have the ton+.
Wow this is stupid. At least the cage got charged with a felony assault.
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/motorcycle-vs-car-road-rage_us_57052aa2e4b0b90ac270d050

[toaster404]

Does look like poor decisionmaking.  Generally, riding onto the sidewalk and evading through narrow spots works, and that opportunity appeared to exist.  Still, in the heat of the moment things are hard to decide.  I suspect that around here someone would have ended up perforated.

Thanks for posting that - really a nice reminder of the moronic things people are capable of, probably including most motorcyclists.

[unclepete]

Neither the rider nor the driver showed any regard for other's safety .
If they still have their driving privilege ..... well , they should not .
Riding the bus and bumming rides would be good therapy for both .
Seems the rider put on a helmet camera and went looking for something to record . 

[LowRyter]

I am inclined to the think that the motorcyclist should've just pulled over and let the car go.  On the other hand, everyone is packing heat now.  I can see trying to outrun the car when you think you might just get shot.  I mean the car driver was a coward and using his car as weapon, it stands to reason that he wouldn't pick a fight unless he had a gun in the car too.

But why in the hell didn't he just nail the gas and leave the Ford into the rearview mirror.  Perhaps too much traffic to really nail it?

[twowings]

Very poor decision to put all the other drivers at risk by the excessive speed and reckless driving...the biker passed by many opportunities to pull off into a public place with witnesses and relative safety...no way to tell if the vid shows EVERYTHING that went on...anger is a thief that steals all the best moments...

[oldbike54]

Very poor decision to put all the other drivers at risk by the excessive speed and reckless driving...the biker passed by many opportunities to pull off into a public place with witnesses and relative safety...no way to tell if the vid shows EVERYTHING that went on...anger is a thief that steals all the best moments...

 "anger is a thief"  :1: While I have no sympathy for the cager , we kind of don't know what led up to this . The motorcyclist had opportunities to escape the situation , and while we don't know whether or not  the cager had a weapon other than his car , he did not display one . Here is the important thing , what is the lesson from this ? .

 Dusty

[rocker59]

"anger is a thief"  :1: While I have no sympathy for the cager , we kind of don't know what led up to this . The motorcyclist had opportunities to escape the situation , and while we don't know whether or not  the cager had a weapon other than his car , he did not display one . Here is the important thing , what is the lesson from this ? .

 Dusty

There is a longer video out there.  Here's the outline of events that led up to what is seen in this video:

-The motorcyclist filtered to the front of traffic at a stop light.  (Illegal in Florida). 
-The auto driver objected as the motorcylist filtered by. 
-The motorcyclist slapped his rearview mirror.
-The auto driver got pissed.
-Green Light, and the chase was on.

[oldbike54]

There is a longer video out there.  Here's the outline of events that led up to what is seen in this video:

-The motorcyclist filtered to the front of traffic at a stop light.  (Illegal in Florida). 
-The auto driver objected as the motorcylist filtered by. 
-The motorcyclist slapped his rearview mirror.
-The auto driver got pissed.
-Green Light, and the chase was on.

 Ahh , so the motorcyclist bore some responsibility in this incident . I've filtered in heavy traffic for years , but sort of asked permission with visual signals . Now , the car driver was still waaayyy over reacting and risking a bad wreck , but the rider was doing some stupid stuff himself .

 Once again , what is the take away ?

 Dusty

[rocker59]

Once again , what is the take away ?

 Dusty

-There are crazy, unhinged people everywhere.  (car driver obviously troubled).
-Walk away from a fight, when you can.  Don't escalate.  (don't slap someone's car mirror, no matter what four-letter words they're flinging).

[Shorty]

Ahh , so the motorcyclist bore some responsibility in this incident . I've filtered in heavy traffic for years , but sort of asked permission with visual signals . Now , the car driver was still waaayyy over reacting and risking a bad wreck , but the rider was doing some stupid stuff himself .

 Once again , what is the take away ?

 Dusty

Ride a Ural. Can't filter with it. If you collide with a modern car, Ural will win. If Ural gets totalled, no big loss. 

[oldbike54]

Ride a Ural. Can't filter with it. If you collide with a modern car, Ural will win. If Ural gets totalled, no big loss. 

 Uh , OK  "Ahh , Ural , very powerful , only for police or military"  Quote from a Russian gentleman on a flight to Russia . Spoken to the American Ural Rep .

 Dusty

[Perazzimx14]

Why even ride a motorcycle if that's all the road choice you have?

[redrider90]

Ahh , so the motorcyclist bore some responsibility in this incident . I've filtered in heavy traffic for years , but sort of asked permission with visual signals . Now , the car driver was still waaayyy over reacting and risking a bad wreck , but the rider was doing some stupid stuff himself .

 Once again , what is the take away ?

 Dusty

I used to filter but quit many a decades ago after an unusual incident. I was about 5 vehicle behind when the RXR light came on. I fast filtered around those 5 cars before the gates came down. Then I got about a 1/4 mile down the road and it was all backed up from a big wreck. So I had to sit there. In the meantime the long train passes and here comes the LEO who was trapped on the other side of the tracks. It was in the days when I still partook in Mary Jane. I was quite high to say the least and had a full bag in my pocket. Needless to say as soon as I was sitting in the LEO car I almost came unglued with paranoia  thinking about  the bag of weed in my pocket. It just so happened the first vehicle in the line at the RXR crossing was another biker, somebody I did not know. Since he was first up when the gates came up the biker caught up to me so we were both sitting there in the traffic jam together when LEO    flashes us.  So the LEO took us both in the car. My head spinning in fear but I very politely answered all the questions and kept reminding myself do not do anything stupid, do not act crazy and be quite and calm and do not by any means jump out the car and run which is what I really wanted to do.   When it came time time to give the other guy the ticket I told the officer I did not know the other biker but he was first in line at the RXR crossing  and that is why we were sitting together in the traffic jam. I said officer he did not blow the RXR crossing like I did so LEO lets the guy go. I got my ticket and went home thanking the reefer gods for my good fortune.   

[lucydad]

Local Houston TV news ran a video about a local road rage incident.  Motorcyclist lane filtered (not legal in TX, yet), driver objected, and it was nasty.  Fortunately nobody injured, but insane driving by both parties.  All on video GoPro by rider.  News said that driver was cited ? but not sure if that is true. 

Be a Vulcan out there.  Always.

About to head out on the V7R.  I still need to get GoPro organized.  Finding time now that the worst of the house move and Spring chores caught up on.

[sidmonsters]

What kinda rocket fuel was that little red Ford burning to always be right there with the bonehead on the bike?

[beetle]

I never filter. I consider it rude.

[Turin]

If that little red ford has one of the new ecoboost motors, then it can move really well. What kind of bike was that anyway? Yamaha 600?

[oldbike54]

I never filter. I consider it rude.

 Yeah , we know that being polite is the Ozzie National pastime 

 Dusty

[DaSwami]

I never filter. I consider it rude.

+1  I stay in my spot in traffic just like I was in my truck.

[beetle]

Yeah , we know that being polite is the Ozzie National pastime 

You will find I am very polite, right up until the moment I head-butt you. 

[oldbike54]

You will find I am very polite, right up until the moment I head-butt you.

 Describes me also  One more good reason to wear a helmet .

 Dusty

[Sasquatch Jim]

 Dumb and dumber, the sequel.

[Guzzistajohn]

I'd be willing to bet that if the squid wasn't having fun filming on his go pro the situation wouldn't have lasted so long. I'm glad I ride where "filtering" is I dodging roadkill possums and armadillos. If I had to ride Florida all the time I'd sell the bikes.

[BugSpatteredJacket]

Both got what they deserved apparently! 

http://www.local10.com/news/local/miami-driver-attempts-to-run-motorcyclist-off-the-road

[boatdetective]

I never filter. I consider it rude.

 :1: If it ain't the law- it ain't the law.  Most importantly, if the locals aren't used to filering, they think of it as cutting in line- so it's understandable that they get pissed.

That being said, the cager was a real dick

[canuguzzi]

The idea is to get home at the end of the day, safe and in one piece and not having taken that away from others in the process.

[Arizona Wayne]

If you're on a MC and get pissed at another driver, NEVER flip them off!  If they react negative to that jesture YOU can be in deep shit real quick.   I just turn my head in a no motion.   Let them honk their horn or jesture at you and be done with their feelings.   Don't let the moment escalate into a possible life threatening situation.  Keep your cool.



Hell, I almost got into a fist fight in a parking lot when a fellow Vietnam vet almost ran my ass over as I walked over to a store recently.   I thumped his back window and he accused me of denting his fender.  He swore he had the right of way(in a parking lot).  He pushed me and I told him to back off and pushed him back.  He finally did.  I had my 1/2 helmet on.   

[atavar]

Just to play devils advocate..  some times ya just gotta stand up for yourself and let people know when they are being rude or stupid.  I have folded more than a couple of mirrors in when they make a left turn through the turn lane I am sitting in. 
You are doing nobody any favors when you let someone else run roughshod over you. As they say.. "Evil wins when good people do nothing."

[LowRyter]

funny how this "filtering" works.  It seems it's bad form to do it even though it improves traffic flow for everyone.  But car drivers get pissed if they think you are jumping the line.

But when I am in the far right lane in a stopped intersection and move to the left, I can leave enough room for the traffic behind me to "filter" and to complete right turns on red.  No one seems to get pissed about that.

I guess it's more intuitively obvious even though it functions that same.

[atavar]

I have no problem filtering to a  turn when I am second in line at the corner and I have never had a driver give me an encouraging beep or a friendly finger wave.