Throttle Tamer?

[JeffOlson]

I am thinking of trying a Throttle Tamer on my 2014 Norge. This is what it looks like:


The problem is that the manufacturer is not certain whether any of their versions will fit the current Norge. They will gladly refund my money if the best-guess version does not fit.

So, what is the best-guess version? They have one that will fit the older Norge, as well as a 2008 Sport 1200 8v, a 2006-2007 Sport, etc. I guess the real question is what is the heritage of the current Norge handle bars? What other bikes use(d) them?

[Cool Runnings]

Let us know how the G2 works. 

[Rich A]

I put one on my Multistrada 620. Made a huge difference in controlling the annoying low-speed "snatch." Recommended if you can find one that fits.

Rich A

[Cool Runnings]

Brilliant! 

[DucDucGuzz]

I installed one on my Ducati SF848 and didn't quite like the vague feel of the throttle. The delayed action due to the eccentric cam made the bike, well... "tame", but it wasn't my cup of tea. Placed the stock one back on.

Hope yours works out to your liking.

[PeteS]

I put a generic one on my Triumph 800. It helped but didn't totally eliminate the light switch effect. It should work if it fits the handlebar and the cable end fits. Exchange that info and he should be able to tell you for sure if it will work with your bike.

Pete

[guzziownr]

I put one on my '09 Griso and later fitted it to my '13 where it currently resides.  It does work as advertised and I like it.  No installation problems, better quality than the stock plastic item.

[leafman60]

I don't think I'd like that. Would feel sluggish at first twist range.

[Rich A]

I think they have different ramps to control the rate of twist.

Rich A

[ITSec]

I am in the camp that says such devices should not be necessary - throttle behavior can be controlled with a combination of mapping, tuning, and cable tension adjustment. I've never had a bike, including my Norge, that couldn't be better fixed without a mechanical kludge.

[Cool Runnings]

I am in the camp that says such devices should not be necessary - throttle behavior can be controlled with a combination of mapping, tuning, and cable tension adjustment. I've never had a bike, including my Norge, that couldn't be better fixed without a mechanical kludge.

It's not like the average rider can just adjust the FI mapping.

[guzziownr]

I am in the camp that says such devices should not be necessary - throttle behavior can be controlled with a combination of mapping, tuning, and cable tension adjustment. I've never had a bike, including my Norge, that couldn't be better fixed without a mechanical kludge.

Those three variables are essential as well.  Even Guzzi has now adopted drive-by-wire and rain modes on their flagship bikes.  The Griso platform is ten years old so changing throttle characteristics is not as easy as pushing a button.

The same throttle also comes in quick-twist flavors for racy types.

[guzziownr]

It's not like the average rider can just adjust the FI mapping.

Actually, we can thanks to the hard work of a dedicated few.  But that has always been the way of Guzzi, pioneers sharing their knowledge with the community.

For me it was Mark E. of Moto Guzzi Classics talking me through a  timing gear repair over the phone or Bob Nolan explaining how to put a left hand disk on a right hand disk front end '75 ELDO.

Some of the old generation have passed but the tradition continues.  My garage is always open...

[ITSec]

It's not like the average rider can just adjust the FI mapping.

If the rider is computer literate, they can, using Guzzidiag and related tools. However, that wasn't my point - rather, I am a strong proponent of treating diseases rather than symptoms, whether through self-medication or seeking help from a professional. If the throttle is overly snatchy, chances are that one, two or all three of the factors I mentioned should be adjusted. If they are all optimal, then the mechanical approach may become necessary. I just think a snatchy throttle is a sign of something being out of sorts.

[rodekyll]

If the rider is computer literate, they can, using Guzzidiag and related tools. However, that wasn't my point - rather, I am a strong proponent of treating diseases rather than symptoms, whether through self-medication or seeking help from a professional. If the throttle is overly snatchy, chances are that one, two or all three of the factors I mentioned should be adjusted. If they are all optimal, then the mechanical approach may become necessary. I just think a snatchy throttle is a sign of something being out of sorts.

I think you just bet someone you could use "self-medication" and "snatchy" in a paragraph today and time was running out.

Didn't Tomaselli or Domino have a line of throttles with different size drums (= degrees of twist till WOT) and ramping on the drums?  I seem to remember the "1/4-twist" or similar and a catalog of profiles . . .

[guzziownr]

I think you just bet someone you could use "self-medication" and "snatchy" in a paragraph today and time was running out.

You should hit up the comedy clubs as you travel 

Once your bike is suitably mapped (and Guzzi's latest are actually pretty good), your throttle cables are perfectly adjusted and your TBs are perfectly synched it is personal preference.  This product offers a choice of 1/4 turn, or a slower ramp to full throttle with the stock throttle somewhere in between. 

I have grip puppies as well which increase the diameter of the throttle to add another variable.  I lean toward the touring side of Sport-touring, hence my choice.

[Cool Runnings]

 perfectly adjusted? 

[guzziownr]

perfectly adjusted? 

[Huzo]

I am thinking of trying a Throttle Tamer on my 2014 Norge. This is what it looks like:


The problem is that the manufacturer is not certain whether any of their versions will fit the current Norge. They will gladly refund my money if the best-guess version does not fit.

So, what is the best-guess version? They have one that will fit the older Norge, as well as a 2008 Sport 1200 8v, a 2006-2007 Sport, etc. I guess the real question is what is the heritage of the current Norge handle bars? What other bikes use(d) them?

What is the function of the throttle tamer, I don't recall seeing them?

[canuguzzi]

Just because a bike is tuned properly doesn't mean it's behavior suits everyone. For that we have accessories. A throttle tamer provides adjustability to suit the preference of the rider beyond the effect of a proper tune regardless of how good it is.

[Huzo]

That's fair enough, but what do they do ?

[rodekyll]

They have different sized drums, and those drums have +/- cammed 'ramps'.  The basic diameter of the drum determines how many degrees of twist = WOT.  The ramping gives +/- twist effect through the ramped arc.  So you can tune the throttle sensitivity to avoid things like roll-off snatch or difficulty holding a particular road speed with your wrist all bunched up like that, while maintaining your favorite twist/WOT relationship.

[Huzo]

Oh, that's seems like a reasonable way to go if you wanted one. The twist grip on my Norge is fairly light, but IMO the lighter the better (up to a point of course), I do like that they are what appears to be cast aluminium. Thanks Roadie.