Have you ever lost your programmed key and fainted at the price for a replacemen

[Silver Goose]

I bought my Stelvio from private party. Flew to Washington state to pick up and ride home. The seller had misplaced the second programmed key, but would send it to me, fine.

Two weeks pass no key, phone call reveled the second was lost. No problem I bought a blank, problem the key must be programmed. The seller could not remember the code he used MG will nor sell a key without the code. The cost of changing the key set, coding was more than I wanted to go through.

Eureka, I have found a locksmith that can cut and program a spare key using only your key, the code is the same as the your key. I can say without question that it works.

Please,contact: Marie's Lock & Safe, 479-484-7800 Ft Smith, Arkansas. 

[twowings]

Excellent! Nice save....

[oldbike54]

 Marie is gonna need an assistant to answer the phone 

 Dusty

[cruzziguzzi]

  Yeah? Buy a Mercedes in which you have to re-synch all the keys and computer every time any of the keys gets the batteries replaced and then, you only get three owner-enabled re-synchs on the computer!

Then tell me how bad your; aggravating techno-pendant, engineer's wrath, scheduled dependency, modern, "we doan need no steenikin' carburetors", wipe-my-butt-by-wire vehicle is tweaking you!

But hell's bells, I flat LOVE that AMG anyhow!


Todd.

[menzies]

I had the exact same situation with my Stelvio. I called MI about a blank and they referred me to a guy local to them. I called and the guy told me he could clone the key for $45 but that I would have to send him my original and only key. I was a little skittish about losing the only key but sent it anyway, in 5 working days I had the 2 keys and the spare works like a dream.  His shop is in Lynnwood, WA.

I had found a key company in Duluth, Georgia that would set up an appt. and you could ride in and they would clone the key for $125 while you wait, which is not a bad deal when you think about it.

Neither of these key folks required the owner code.

[rodekyll]

I'm not understanding the purpose of this programmed key thing.  It seems like a lot more of a roadside liability than a security feature.

[canuck750]

Replacement key from BMW is now over $450.00

[ibis1]

Yeah? Buy a Mercedes in which you have to re-synch all the keys and computer every time any of the keys gets the batteries replaced and then, you only get three owner-enabled re-synchs on the computer!

Then tell me how bad your; aggravating techno-pendant, engineer's wrath, scheduled dependency, modern, "we doan need no steenikin' carburetors", wipe-my-butt-by-wire vehicle is tweaking you!

But hell's bells, I flat LOVE that AMG anyhow!
We (Land Rover) get around $400.00 for a new remote including programming, but that does NOT include a new key blade which is about $80.00. If they are lucky enough to lose all their remotes and the vehicle is armed, it's another $1000.00 for a new Body computer. So 2 remotes w/key blades and a new Body computer will set you back over $2000.00  Gotta love those Europeans!

Todd.

[Sasquatch Jim]

Replacement key from BMW is now over $450.00

 I think this is called price gouging.
 I personally would be looking for a way to remove the lock and go to a simpler system.

[ibis1]

I think this is called price gouging.
 I personally would be looking for a way to remove the lock and go to a simpler system.

Sasquatch, Unfortunately those days are gone. Most communication is now over Can Buses, unlike years ago when applying a ground or power to a circuit would bypass it. It has it's benefits, but also has it's negatives, but almost all automotive technology is going that way.      

[Guido Valvole]

Suddenly I'm liking my 1963 BSA even more. It has a generic "key", one size fits all, that costs a few bucks or you could probably use a properly-modified screwdriver blade. Key's the easy part. Lever that wants to break my right ankle is the tricky part. 

We've had far too much gratuitous BS "technology" stuffed down our throats in cars, and now even motorcycles. Ah, the "inherent obsolescence" of electronic devices... inherent wastefulness, really.
cr

[pete roper]

AF1 list chip keys for $25 or so. They are a generic key rather than a 'Guzzi' branded one but they can easily be cut and cloned. Best bet is to get at least one extra then you will always have two even if you loose one. If you have two you can code up to six!

Pete

[jas67]

Don't lose the red key for any Ducati,Vepsa, Piaggio, or any other bike that has them.  (The Piaggio/Vespa ones are actually more of a brown color).

Without the red key, you can't program any new regular keys (black for Ducati, blue for Piaggio/Vepsa).

If you lose the red key, you have to replace the immobilizer and locksets to be able to get more keys -- big $$$.

Thankfully, Ducati did away with this in the late 2000's.  My 2013 Monster 796 just has two black keys, and a keycode card that is in the folder with the title.

[Chuck in Indiana]

Suddenly I'm liking my 1963 BSA even more. It has a generic "key", one size fits all, that costs a few bucks or you could probably use a properly-modified screwdriver blade. Key's the easy part. Lever that wants to break my right ankle is the tricky part. 

We've had far too much gratuitous BS "technology" stuffed down our throats in cars, and now even motorcycles. Ah, the "inherent obsolescence" of electronic devices... inherent wastefulness, really.
cr

Plus 1 million.

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

Plus 1 million.

 

[Solojoe]

Had a Honda CBF1000a (model not sold in the USA) that came with one key, the replacement was $30 and the programing was $20. The European guys were saying that the shops wanted to sell them a new ECU - money grab?

[LaMojo]

I don't know why motorcycle mfgs don't adopt car manufactures method: with having two programmed keys, you can make a number of like keys by placing in the ignition switch and following cloning information.   

[rodekyll]

The more I read about this the more a programmable key is a dealbreaker.  I don't even like the regular kind.

[rocker59]

I'm not understanding the purpose of this programmed key thing.  It seems like a lot more of a roadside liability than a security feature.

Me either.  Especially on Motorcycles, which are usually pushed away or picked up and hauled away, when stolen.

The chip key sure seems like more of a hassle than a benefit, to me.

I'd like to know if there is a study out there showing if the chip keys reduced thefts...

[oldbike54]

Me either.  Especially on Motorcycles, which are usually pushed away or picked up and hauled away, when stolen.

The chip key sure seems like more of a hassle than a benefit, to me.

I'd like to know if there is a study out there showing if the chip keys reduced thefts...

 There have been at least three incidents here in Oklahoma where amateur thieves were thwarted by complicated antitheft systems . Not sure anything necessarily stops the pros , but maybe they might look for a bike that has a system easier to defeat .

 Dusty

[Dilliw]

The more I read about this the more a programmable key is a dealbreaker.  I don't even like the regular kind.

I keep the keys in the ignition 95% of the time the other 5% I usually forget to take it out.  Plus my EVT has a karma bell from Karma Kamil so I've got that going for me...

Only Guzzi that gets stolen is Griso Pinko that bike is cursed.