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I'm in Mandello. Are CARC bikes in production? No.
« on: June 03, 2016, 11:59:56 AM »
Talked with Alby, owner of Agostini.  What's Piaggio working towards?  It's not known here.  Why not put the Cal induction on the Stelvio (and drop the cosmetic valve covers)?  Indeed.  Right now it's big cruisers and little run-abouts.  No Stelvio, Norge, or Griso.  But, then, that's already been said...
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« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2016, 12:05:15 PM »
Someone must have hacked Daniel's account. There's no pictures.
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« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2016, 12:05:26 PM »
Hi Daniel

Do you know if Agostini rents Norge's these days?  Last time I looked on their site, I didn't see any.  Was hoping to rent one next year from Mandello down to Croatia. 

Thanks!
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« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2016, 12:10:18 PM »
Hi Daniel

Do you know if Agostini rents Norge's these days?  Last time I looked on their site, I didn't see any.  Was hoping to rent one next year from Mandello down to Croatia. 

Thanks!
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No Norge for rent.  I asked what I'll do next year and he put me on a nice MV Agusta.

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« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2016, 12:12:32 PM »
MV Agusta...Nice!!  No more Stelvio then to break down...pity about the Norge...thanks for checking!

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« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2016, 12:26:16 PM »
 Morse Code Deke ? :rolleyes:

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« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2016, 01:17:16 PM »
Ask them about hard bags for the 1400 Eldorado's.

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« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2016, 01:43:16 PM »
Norge Pilot:  You ARE the one that needs to give it a rest.  You're wearing thin on many of the members on this forum.  Chill out.
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« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2016, 02:03:19 PM »
Right now it's big cruisers and little run-abouts.  No Stelvio, Norge, or Griso.  But, then, that's already been said...

This is unfortunate. Seems they really had something unique in the market....and wasn't there word of a new travelogue with Ewan McGregor riding across the "murica's" on a Stelvio? There must be some very compelling data that we're not privvy to. Margin, service, supply chain... something.

Could it be as simple as capacity? I've not been  to Mandello, but I've looked at more photos of the plant and it's surroundings than a man could count. Seems to me that facility is literally landlocked. Perhaps their (Piaggio's) desire to leverage the mystique of the Guzzi heritage and ethos has them limited to THAT facility, and the success of the California and V7 platform has dictated they limit the eggs to just a couple, three baskets rather than an expansive line of machines. Expanding production to some other geographic location may not make sense, and that building may simply not accommodate. At some point, numbers really do dictate...
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« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2016, 02:07:35 PM »
This is unfortunate. Seems they really had something unique in the market....and wasn't there word of a new travelogue with Ewan McGregor riding across the "murica's" on a Stelvio? There must be some very compelling data that we're not privvy to. Margin, service, supply chain... something.

The whole Ewan McGregor thing has been rumored to be nothing more than a rumor started by the rumormill...

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« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2016, 02:11:00 PM »
The whole Ewan McGregor thing has been rumored to be nothing more than a rumor started by the rumormill...

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« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2016, 03:16:53 PM »
 Heck , until meeting Deke in person I thought he was Ewan McGregor  :grin:

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« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2016, 03:37:33 PM »
Oh noes! Whatever shall I do? [wrends garment]

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« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2016, 03:46:42 PM »
Could it be as simple as capacity?

It could be as simple as market saturation. MG might think future sales are bleak for these models.
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« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2016, 04:08:03 PM »
Oh noes! Whatever shall I do? [wrends garment]

I would place your beloved griso into a hermetically sealed vault as it is sure to become priceless.

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« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2016, 04:16:06 PM »
Someone must have hacked Daniel's account. There's no pictures.

I'm going with this. ^^^ The whole damn post is simply industrial counter-espionage, re-direct and dissimulation.

The new CARC V-8s are the biggest secret from MdelL since the concealed bacon-slicers and phony twin exhausts of the NuFaux Falcones! :boxing:


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« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2016, 04:27:51 PM »
This news reminds me of when I was a teenager and found out David Lee Roth was leaving Van Halen.......

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« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2016, 04:35:08 PM »
This news reminds me of when I was a teenager and found out David Lee Roth was leaving Van Halen.......

Then take heart - he came back. Intermittently as one might expect from an Italian manufacturer sure, but still.

Of course than too one must take into account his diminished and generally scruffy nature upon returning in more the form of a self-imitator than the real thing - DAMN, another connection!



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« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2016, 04:38:04 PM »
Just as I thought. Very disappointing, but it isn't the first time whatever pack of clowns owns Guzzi has screwed up. Please don't just condemn the brand to whore's purses and lifestyle accessories.....

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« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2016, 04:42:36 PM »
Just a question, why do you insist on stirring pots and then tey save everyone else from it? Its like the people who kick dogs, throw gasoline on glowing embers and the guy on the other side of the stadium calling people names using a bullhorn. Give it a rest.

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« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2016, 04:44:41 PM »
The whole Ewan McGregor thing has been rumored to be nothing more than a rumor started by the rumormill...

I traced the Ewan McGregor rumor about a Baja ride on the Stelvio back three or so internet steps when it first came up. It seemed to be based on an online news source's misinterpretation of an original offhand comment from McG, that was itself reported misleadingly in another online source.

The news from Mandello is disappointing.

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« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2016, 04:47:57 PM »
Please don't just condemn the brand to whore's purses and lifestyle accessories.....

A very simple, clear and sad distillation of direction it would seem. It would be very unfortunate if they were to be taking cues from HD though it's tough to find fault in HD's overall success with that way of thinking.. HD had neither the inclination nor foresight to really try to see through the Buell connection, the XR1200 or to capitalize on finally getting back into "real" racing.


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« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2016, 04:54:15 PM »
A very simple, clear and sad distillation of direction it would seem. It would be very unfortunate if they were to be taking cues from HD though it's tough to find fault in HD's overall success with that way of thinking.. HD had neither the inclination nor foresight to really try to see through the Buell connection, the XR1200 or to capitalize on finally getting back into "real" racing.


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« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2016, 05:26:22 PM »
A very simple, clear and sad distillation of direction it would seem. It would be very unfortunate if they were to be taking cues from HD though it's tough to find fault in HD's overall success with that way of thinking.. HD had neither the inclination nor foresight to really try to see through the Buell connection, the XR1200 or to capitalize on finally getting back into "real" racing.


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From what I've been told, Moto Guzzi new marketing mantra is much more simple then that. It can be summarised by:

"Would Claudia Schiffer put her butt on that?"   

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« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2016, 05:50:41 PM »
From what I've been told, Moto Guzzi new marketing mantra is much more simple then that. It can be summarised by:

"Would Claudia Schiffer put her butt on that?"

...and let's face it...Claudia Schiffer DOES have a butt!!





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« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2016, 06:35:37 PM »
I would place your beloved griso into a hermetically sealed vault as it is sure to become priceless.

Ha, to most owners, they already are!  :drool:
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« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2016, 06:53:47 PM »
There was a time when they quit making 850-Ts and SPs and Californias and Ambassadors and...........
Come to think of it, Moto Guzzi has quit making nearly every single bike that they ever made!!!!!!
I can't breathe............



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« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2016, 07:07:54 PM »
Just a question, why do you insist on stirring pots and then tey save everyone else from it? Its like the people who kick dogs, throw gasoline on glowing embers and the guy on the other side of the stadium calling people names using a bullhorn. Give it a rest.

Either this a post from the evidence disputer anti-defamation league, or there is a very deep and twisted subtext going on here.
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« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2016, 07:52:57 PM »
blah, blah, blah...  drivel, drivel, drivel...

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« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2016, 07:59:16 PM »
Ok...so no CARC's for the future...Small blocks and Big Blocks...Maybe Guzzi can start a trailer business or a side car accessory line!

Either way, I'm sure something interesting will come forth from the shores of Lake Como sometime in the near future, and since the existing bikes have such a long life span anyway, there's not really much to bemoan for existing riders...and plenty of low mileage bikes on the market for the older bikes in case they want to upgrade a bit at some point.

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