8 valve Harley?

[Kev m]

I must say that I'm very impressed that you know so much about me.

Not really in this case simply means you are simply sloppy in your usage/understanding. I.E. you are mistaken in your impressions or understanding of what a lumpy idle ACTUALLY IS and what causes it.

[Rough Edge racing]

 Lumpy idles can be a result of engine firing order, camshaft timing, over advanced ignition timing and a bunch of other factors...The Harley idle cadence that you hear is primarily from the firing order on older carburetor bikes.. At the Curtiss Museum bike show attended my me , Kev and a few other here there was Dick Harris's 1970 Triumph Bonneville with the crank modified to 76 degree phasing instead of 360. This greatly reduces the  typical 360 degree twin vibration at higher speeds.....At idle is sounded like a Guzzi , Ducati or even a Harley....And sorta like a V-8 hot rod...

[oldbike54]

 The late great Duncan Campbell from Joplin MO built some pretty nasty Brit powered drag and street bikes . Mostly Norton and Triumphs , and a couple of hybrids employing Norton or Moldex crankshafts in Triumph cases . I had the pleasure of riding a couple of examples of his work in the 1980's , and my favorite was a monster 920 CC Triumph that employed a special Moldex crank with the pins situated 77 degrees apart that sounded like a creation from hell . Talk about a lumpy sounding idle , although the actual level of vibration was less than a standard short rod Triumph . This beast was a street bike and looked like a basic Triumph from the late 60's with the exception of a trick swingarm and a large front disc brake . Damn , I miss Duncan , wonder what happened to his collection of stuff .

 Dusty

[sturgeon]

Not really in this case simply means you are simply sloppy in your usage/understanding. I.E. you are mistaken in your impressions or understanding of what a lumpy idle ACTUALLY IS and what causes it.

I await your 5-page dissertation with ... nah, not really.

[rboe]

Lumpy idle 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEbDlNeMtLM

[Tom]

Thanks for posting.  The other engines that are linked are fun to watch too. 

[leafman60]

I've gotta give Harley credit for marketing the way it should be done.

They introduce their new engine and bikes to the world just last Tuesday and get a lot of press publicity about it. By week's end these new products were already shipped and sitting in the dealers' showrooms!  Today, several of our Guzzi Gang went to look at them in the real.  Several have already been sold and are out on the road.

Strike while the iron is hot. Good planning.

[Cool Runnings]

I've gotta give Harley credit for marketing the way it should be done.

They introduce their new engine and bikes to the world just last Tuesday and get a lot of press publicity about it. By week's end these new products were already shipped and sitting in the dealers' showrooms!  Today, several of our Guzzi Gang went to look at them in the real.  Several have already been sold and are out on the road.

Strike while the iron is hot. Good planning.

Yet they said nothing about the 8 valve @ Sturgis, I asked a couple of reps and they both said they never heard of Harley working on a 8 valve motor. Less than two weeks later and we all hear this. Imagine if you purchased a new 2016 @ Strugis only to find it's already obsolete by the time you bring it home.

[ITSec]

Lumpy was idle 

 Dusty

I thought Lumpy was the eight dwarf...

[LowRyter]

[leafman60]

Yet they said nothing about the 8 valve @ Sturgis, I asked a couple of reps and they both said they never heard of Harley working on a 8 valve motor. Less than two weeks later and we all hear this. Imagine if you purchased a new 2016 @ Strugis only to find it's already obsolete by the time you bring it home.

I am amazed at how well they can keep something so big so secret for so long. Even the dealers didn't know much at all about the new products.

And, on the obsolete part, nah.  That's the thing. The H-D's never become obsolete. They are like a pair of Levi's jeans. The Twin Cams are still up to snuff.   Even my 40-year-old H-D looks to most people like a current Dyna.

[oldbike54]

 Speaking of credible sources , mine tells me that the V Rod is history .

 Creditable?? Sorry Chuckie 

 Dusty

[Tom]

Too bad.  The Street Rod is/was a good bike but it didn't appeal at all to the HD crowd.  That bike motivated me to buy a Buell ST3 Thunderbolt.

[Cool Runnings]

Speaking of credible sources , mine tells me that the V Rod is history .

 Creditable?? Sorry Chuckie 

 Dusty

If only Harley made a V Rod Sport Touring bike, but no, just that horrible cruiser. Test drove one back when they first came out. I thought it was wimpy. Of course back in them day's, I was riding a Hayabusa.

[Tom]

Most other bikes compared to a Hayabusa would be wimpy.

[Cool Runnings]

Most other bikes compared to a Hayabusa would be wimpy.

Yes, but, no the 1st generation FJR 1300 pulled like a Hayabusa up to around 130 mph. She would only go a little over 1-5-0. 

[oldbike54]

 Hell , up to about 189 MPH even an F4 launched from a carrier would probably feel wimpy compared to a Busa 

 Dusty

[Tom]

It's the torque not the horsepower.

[oldbike54]

It's the torque not the horsepower.

 No , it's the humidity 

 Dusty

[Tom]

No it's the temperature.

[Kev m]

Speaking of credible sources , mine tells me that the V Rod is history .

 Creditable?? Sorry Chuckie 

 Dusty

I've heard the same from similar.

[Kev m]

Yes, but, no the 1st generation FJR 1300 pulled like a Hayabusa up to around 130 mph. She would only go a little over 1-5-0. 

Yet neither hold even the first iota of my interest. 

[LowRyter]

Potato potato potato 

 Dusty

I saw your high school photo:

[bad Chad]

If only Harley made a V Rod Sport Touring bike, but no, just that horrible cruiser. Test drove one back when they first came out. I thought it was wimpy. Of course back in them day's, I was riding a Hayabusa.

Wow, you look like a real Jag in the picture!  Glad we know you now for the cool cat you are!

[LowRyter]

Yes, but, no the 1st generation FJR 1300 pulled like a Hayabusa up to around 130 mph. She would only go a little over 1-5-0. 

no it didn't.  There's real fast and then there is Hayabusa fast.   

Bottomline, nothing I've ridden is faster than my right wrist.  Sometimes even my V11 Sport is fast.   

[LowRyter]

It's the torque not the horsepower.

when you're pulling 12k, that's hors-a-power (as Mr Rossi would say)

[Tom]

 

[LowRyter]

Mt Rossi isn't a Harley fan.

he likes something with some horse-a-power.

(as I heard him at Indy Moto GP 2008)

[rboe]

Hell , up to about 189 MPH even an F4 launched from a carrier would probably feel wimpy compared to a Busa 

 Dusty

I got to talk to the Navy guy that tested and signed off F-4 for the Navy after they were built. Just about everything is wimpy compared to the F-4. Down on the deck she would go super sonic easier than a Griso hitting the ton and with about the same feedback. It's a beast.

[oldbike54]

I got to talk to the Navy guy that tested and signed off F-4 for the Navy after they were built. Just about everything is wimpy compared to the F-4. Down on the deck she would go super sonic easier than a Griso hitting the ton and with about the same feedback. It's a beast.

 Yeah , but their 0 to 100 times weren't all that great . LOL . We have a member that flew Phantoms of off carriers in SE Asia late 60's . He still flies , and is still impressed with the F4 .

 Dusty