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Somewhat pricey 1968 V7 in my neighborhood
« on: August 03, 2016, 01:12:28 PM »
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Re: Somewhat pricey 1968 V7 in my neighborhood
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2016, 01:16:47 PM »
Ad says he is very, very firm on the price. He will be carrying that ad for a very, very long time. Dunno why one would put a big bore kit in a V700.
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Re: Somewhat pricey 1968 V7 in my neighborhood
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2016, 01:19:42 PM »
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He will be carrying that ad for a very, very long time

  :1:  And it's been on CL several times already with no results.
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Re: Somewhat pricey 1968 V7 in my neighborhood
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2016, 01:20:31 PM »
Ad says he is very, very firm on the price. He will be carrying that ad for a very, very long time. Dunno why one would put a big bore kit in a V700.

 He quotes both 9 and 10 K dollars as the price  :huh: Big bore kit was probably to replace the chrome bores .

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Re: Somewhat pricey 1968 V7 in my neighborhood
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2016, 01:26:58 PM »
The money spent to get the bike to it's present condition would far exceed the asking price , knowing Moe and Cycle Works . His bikes , when they come up on ebay usually go for big bucks . Don't know why this one wouldn't ?
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Re: Somewhat pricey 1968 V7 in my neighborhood
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2016, 01:29:46 PM »
I was alluding to a big bore kit with those tiny valves? I remember 50 years ago the hot ticket was to get an Austin Healey and put a Chevy II engine in it. These days they are paying big bucks for one with an original engine.
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Re: Somewhat pricey 1968 V7 in my neighborhood
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2016, 01:32:38 PM »
More power with a "big bore kit".  Too bad the brakes are the oem set-up but then that would be something totally different.  He should post it on Ebay with no reserve.
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Re: Somewhat pricey 1968 V7 in my neighborhood
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2016, 01:34:20 PM »
I was alluding to a big bore kit with those tiny valves? I remember 50 years ago the hot ticket was to get an Austin Healey and put a Chevy II engine in it. These days they are paying big bucks for one with an original engine.

In the late '80's I worked with an engineer that put a 500 hemi into a bugeye sprite.
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Re: Somewhat pricey 1968 V7 in my neighborhood
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2016, 01:39:15 PM »
In '68 I could have had the '59 bug eye with the Chevy motor for $300 but Dad would not go for it. Not made in Amurica.
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« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2016, 01:43:13 PM »
 If the work had been done by Charley Mullendore it might be worth $10K . Sorry , no one has ever convinced me that Cycle Garden's stuff actually sells for ridiculous prices .

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Re: Somewhat pricey 1968 V7 in my neighborhood
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2016, 02:38:23 PM »
In the late '80's I worked with an engineer that put a 500 hemi into a bugeye sprite.

Don't you mean put a Sprite on a Hemi?  :tongue:
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Re: Somewhat pricey 1968 V7 in my neighborhood
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2016, 03:24:57 PM »
If the work had been done by Charley Mullendore it might be worth $10K . Sorry , no one has ever convinced me that Cycle Garden's stuff actually sells for ridiculous prices .

 Dusty

Cycle Garden's stuff may sell, eventually, but it may often sell below original asking price.  I'm more familiar with the Norton world, where Colorado Norton Works sells essentially "remanufactured" or "upgraded" Commandos for a price that is higher than what a reasonably astute shopper would pay for TWO well-restored Nortons done by anyone else - and that's over & above the cost of the donor bike!.  CNW's bikes are admittedly nice but they aren't even close to stock, & the two that have been done for people in my neck of the woods don't seem to be any more trouble-free than the well looked after more stock Commandos in this area.

I don't know from personal experience, but I suspect that Cycle Garden's "stuff" may fit in the same general category as CNW's - looks very pretty when done, but with more than even minimal actual use it really isn't really enough "better/improved from stock" to be worth the premium cost unless you really have deep pockets & cost is no consideration.
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Re: Somewhat pricey 1968 V7 in my neighborhood
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2016, 03:52:15 PM »
Moe's clientele is more the Hollywood types that are willing to pay for non-HD bikes that are classics and unusual.
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Re: Somewhat pricey 1968 V7 in my neighborhood
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2016, 04:04:57 PM »
Moe's clientele is more the Hollywood types that are willing to pay for non-HD bikes that are classics and unusual.

Southern California is over priced in every area, particularly Real Estate, and it spills over to cars, trucks, boats, and Motocycles.
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Re: Somewhat pricey 1968 V7 in my neighborhood
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2016, 04:12:55 PM »
I was alluding to a big bore kit with those tiny valves?

"Big Bore" on a V700 might be nothing more than the standard 83 mm Ambassador bore giving 757 cc vs. 703 cc. Since Gilardoni hasn't made any V700 sets in quite some time, using Ambassador kits is an easy way to go rather than replating or sleeving. Only minor machining required.

Yes, the valves are smaller, but most of the first series Ambassadors (those with an "A" in the VIN) had the same small valves. Although peak hp may be down, those engines seem to have a bit more grunt down low.

I don't think that V700 is overpriced if it's as nice as it looks.
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« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2016, 04:15:54 PM »
Moe's clientele is more the Hollywood types that are willing to pay for non-HD bikes that are classics and unusual.

 We keep hearing that , but is it anything but propaganda ? Using Leno as an example , he claims to never pay more than fair market value for a vehicle . My guess is the internet has put an end to regional pricing .

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« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2016, 05:11:41 PM »
Cycle Garden's stuff may sell, eventually, but it may often sell below original asking price.  I'm more familiar with the Norton world, where Colorado Norton Works sells essentially "remanufactured" or "upgraded" Commandos for a price that is higher than what a reasonably astute shopper would pay for TWO well-restored Nortons done by anyone else - and that's over & above the cost of the donor bike!.  CNW's bikes are admittedly nice but they aren't even close to stock, & the two that have been done for people in my neck of the woods don't seem to be any more trouble-free than the well looked after more stock Commandos in this area.

I don't know from personal experience, but I suspect that Cycle Garden's "stuff" may fit in the same general category as CNW's - looks very pretty when done, but with more than even minimal actual use it really isn't really enough "better/improved from stock" to be worth the premium cost unless you really have deep pockets & cost is no consideration.

They do have lovely parts manuals and shop manuals on their site.  :smiley:

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Re: Somewhat pricey 1968 V7 in my neighborhood
« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2016, 06:14:23 PM »
In the late '80's I worked with an engineer that put a 500 hemi into a bugeye sprite.

Out here the go to conversion was to put the all alloy 3.5 lit Rover V8 in to the Sprite. I gather it was actually 34lb lighter than the BMC A series it replaced.
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Re: Somewhat pricey 1968 V7 in my neighborhood
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2016, 07:11:03 PM »
If I was uber-wealthy the $9000 wouldn't stop me as I really like the bike.
But the Ferrari in the picture is a real turn-off and it's lost its curb appeal to me  :huh:

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