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Aren't hazard lights mandatory?
« on: October 05, 2016, 01:47:17 PM »
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Re: Aren't hazard lights mandatory?
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2016, 02:26:13 PM »
Never heard of hazard lights being mandatory.  After 1973 head lights and turn signals are.  I have had to rewire several of my bikes to add a flasher and switch for hazard lights, never seen one that came with them from the factory.
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Re: Aren't hazard lights mandatory?
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2016, 02:51:26 PM »
on the 50+ bikes I have owned, not one has had flashing hazard lights.

I have seen them on friends Kawasaki's.
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Re: Aren't hazard lights mandatory?
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2016, 03:03:59 PM »
The last I heard (Donna, the license lady), hazards were not mandatory on a bike.  My Convert and my old police ambo had them, but I don't think any others.  Donna said I didn't need them to pass an inspection on my reconstructed vehicle, and that I wanted to think before installing any.  She said that although they are not mandatory, if I install them, it is mandatory that they function.  I thought that was a lot of plumbing just to add a detail for someone to scrutinize for proper function, so I opted not.

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Re: Aren't hazard lights mandatory?
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2016, 03:21:34 PM »
2008 Norge has hazard flashers...
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Re: Aren't hazard lights mandatory?
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2016, 03:31:52 PM »
Hazards are not mandatory on motorcycles in The USA.

Some bikes have them.  Some don't.

Harleys have had them since about 1994.  Push both turn signal buttons at the same time to turn them on.  Repeat to turn them off.

My 1998 Triumph Sprint had them.  My 1991 LeMans 1000 had them.

Neither of my two current Guzzis has them.  Sport 1100 and V7 Special.
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Re: Aren't hazard lights mandatory?
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2016, 03:33:21 PM »
For the record, my '89 Mille GT has them.
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Re: Aren't hazard lights mandatory?
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2016, 03:39:16 PM »
   I have never known a case of a LEO doing a roadside check .

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Re: Aren't hazard lights mandatory?
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2016, 03:54:40 PM »
My 1992 BMW K75s has hazards.

FWIW: These early K-bikes were also the first to have ABS.
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Re: Aren't hazard lights mandatory?
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2016, 04:52:21 PM »
Does turning on the right blinker and waving one's left arm count?
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Re: Aren't hazard lights mandatory?
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2016, 05:30:39 PM »
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Harleys have had them since about 1994.  Push both turn signal buttons at the same time to turn them on.  Repeat to turn them off./
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Except the newer H-D's.  I recently took a demo ride on a 2017 Roadglide, I was curious about the new Milwaukee 8 engine and suspension upgrades.  Somehow on the ride I got the flashers going, so I pushed both signal buttons simultaneously, but the flashers remained on.  Seems they've added a button on the right switch housing to control the flashers.  The button is red has a white triangle within a triangle, like you see on newer cars. Progress?


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Re: Aren't hazard lights mandatory?
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2016, 05:35:53 PM »
My 1992 BMW K75s has hazards.

FWIW: These early K-bikes were also the first to have ABS.

If I recall correctly, my K1100LT also had flashers...I think...it's been a few years since I had it...can't be 100% certain.
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Re: Aren't hazard lights mandatory?
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2016, 10:33:40 PM »
Never heard of hazard lights being mandatory.  After 1973 head lights and turn signals are. 

Turn signals I believe have to work if you have them but are not required. In Iowa if you build a bike from scratch you have to include them but can take them off after registration. I don't run turn signals on my V65C.

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Re: Aren't hazard lights mandatory?
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2016, 12:55:36 AM »
I just find them useful. There were a few bicycle competitions and It's just weird escorting them with only left or right turn signal :grin:
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Re: Aren't hazard lights mandatory?
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2016, 08:14:42 AM »
I THOUGHT my 93 Harley had them too, but that could be fading memory.

I will say that I've had them on most (if not all of my Harleys), my oilhead, my CARC, etc. so I was genuinely pissed to find both the M696 and the V7 didn't have them.

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Re: Aren't hazard lights mandatory?
« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2016, 08:20:34 AM »
My 78 Suzuki GS1000 had great working outmatch turn single cancelers and I think flashers!
My 84sp does not have either
My 07 Breva 11000 does have hazard flashers!

I would guess its just what kind of price Guzzi can get for various switch gear, based on their spec request.
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Re: Aren't hazard lights mandatory?
« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2016, 08:30:16 AM »
MY Lemans lll had them, K75, I think my SP did. I don't understand why they don't come on new bikes along with self canceling turn signals, my 77 Yamaha 650 had those!
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Re: Aren't hazard lights mandatory?
« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2016, 09:12:36 AM »
MY Lemans lll had them, K75, I think my SP did. I don't understand why they don't come on new bikes along with self canceling turn signals, my 77 Yamaha 650 had those!

My '76 Yamaha RD400C had the best self-cancelling turn signals I've ever seen on a bike, don't know why everyone didn't use them.

My two modern bikes have Hazard flashers, and I've used them once or twice.   They seem useful when you're stopped behind a buddy that's just barely off the road for some reason.   Don't think anyone has ever checked them during a state inspection, I don't think they're on the list.

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Re: Aren't hazard lights mandatory?
« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2016, 10:19:29 AM »
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Re: Aren't hazard lights mandatory?
« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2016, 11:31:13 AM »
 When I  had them I used them in heavy rain, parked on the side of the road, slow traffic.
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Re: Aren't hazard lights mandatory?
« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2016, 05:22:32 PM »
I THOUGHT my 93 Harley had them too, but that could be fading memory.

I will say that I've had them on most (if not all of my Harleys), my oilhead, my CARC, etc. so I was genuinely pissed to find both the M696 and the V7 didn't have them.

Well... they should be mandatory on Harleys, because they are so often stranded on the side of the road.
(just a little good-natured harley-bashing... don't get mad. It was too easy of a target.  :evil:)


As for self-cancelling signals. Yeah, I love those on my K75s too. They go off after traveling a certain distance, but they stay on indefinitely when stopped. Mostly that's good, but they go off before I'm done changing multiple lanes on SoCal freeways - so I have to activate them twice to finish my changes.
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Re: Aren't hazard lights mandatory?
« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2016, 08:38:28 PM »
'93 Calli 3 has hazards.
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Re: Aren't hazard lights mandatory?
« Reply #22 on: October 07, 2016, 06:06:54 AM »
Love the hazard lights for conspicuity when necessary.  Had occasion to use them the other day slowing to a foggy stop in traffic.  Hit the starter button instead (located right below the hazard switch and which looks like a directional switch rather than an on-off push button which I associate with hazard lights).  The motorcycle gods forgave me that error - starter switch is deactivated after starting as an idiot-proofing measure.
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Re: Aren't hazard lights mandatory?
« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2016, 06:34:49 AM »
Well... they should be mandatory on Harleys, because they are so often stranded on the side of the road.
(just a little good-natured harley-bashing... don't get mad. It was too easy of a target.  :evil:)


As for self-cancelling signals. Yeah, I love those on my K75s too. They go off after traveling a certain distance, but they stay on indefinitely when stopped. Mostly that's good, but they go off before I'm done changing multiple lanes on SoCal freeways - so I have to activate them twice to finish my changes.

Yeah yeah  :violent1:

As for self-cancelling signals Harley has had a few variations over the decades, first time/distance, then for over a decade it's been a combination of time/distance or lean angle. So if you haven't met the time/distance requirement but the bike has pitched over and come back upright it shuts off. Sometimes if the lean wasn't enough you give a little wiggle and it will turn them off.

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Re: Aren't hazard lights mandatory?
« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2016, 06:37:16 AM »
Love the hazard lights for conspicuity when necessary.  Had occasion to use them the other day slowing to a foggy stop in traffic. 

One of the things I always liked about the Harley hazards (and I guess that's changed now since the CANbus models and new wiring) is you used to activate them with BOTH turn signals (there's one large signal button on each bar). It meant that under heavy braking it was very easy to use your thumbs to turn the hazards on immediately while still clutching/braking, thereby sending a signal to any riders or drivers behind you that there was a hazard ahead.
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Re: Aren't hazard lights mandatory?
« Reply #25 on: October 07, 2016, 06:49:14 AM »
I'm not sure how hazard lights work actually. Is there seperate relay for left and right side? If that's the case, another switch can be added to turn both of them on.
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Re: Aren't hazard lights mandatory?
« Reply #26 on: October 07, 2016, 07:53:31 AM »
I'm not sure how hazard lights work actually. Is there seperate relay for left and right side? If that's the case, another switch can be added to turn both of them on.

I don't think turn signals on most bikes (including all modern Guzzis after maybe the Tonti California models, so the Cal-Vin and the Rootbeer Float model) have used a turn signal flasher. I THINK it's all solid state, usually controlled by the dash or a separate flasher module depending on the brand.
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Re: Aren't hazard lights mandatory?
« Reply #27 on: October 07, 2016, 12:28:10 PM »

My 2004 V11 Nero Corsa had a flasher module.  I know, because I had to get a heavy duty flasher, when I added the trailer.

I haven't looked very deep into the V7 Special, so don't know on it.
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Re: Aren't hazard lights mandatory?
« Reply #28 on: October 07, 2016, 02:38:08 PM »
My 2004 V11 Nero Corsa had a flasher module.  I know, because I had to get a heavy duty flasher, when I added the trailer.

Yeah, well that pre-dates the Cal-Vin and Rootbeer float right?


I haven't looked very deep into the V7 Special, so don't know on it.

A quick look at the wiring diagram this morning didn't show one.

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Re: Aren't hazard lights mandatory?
« Reply #29 on: October 07, 2016, 03:35:31 PM »
The only bike I've ever owned with hazard lights is the LM2. Most of the other bikes I've owned have been newer but don't have them.

I've never used or felt the need to use them anyway...
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