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Offline Tom H

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Re: Starter works normally for 1 second, then stops
« Reply #30 on: January 25, 2017, 03:32:24 PM »
Kiwi_Roy,

My sensor is fine for now. Was just wondering how to measure the gap. On my '04 it uses shims. SmithSwede's bike appears to not use them.

Thank you,
Tom
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Re: Starter works normally for 1 second, then stops
« Reply #31 on: March 04, 2017, 08:42:33 PM »
Success!  Guzzi back on the road.   Here's the data in case it helps someone else. 

I replaced the original phase sensor with a new one, along with a new O-ring.  Since I had the tank off, I replaced the original half plastic/half metal fuel filter.  Also replaced the downstream fuel line I managed to break while removing the tank.

Go to restart.   Now the starter *would* crank for a solid 3-5 seconds as it always did before.   So I'm convinced that something in the system cuts off juice to the starter motor after 1/2 to 1 seconds if it detects the absence of valid phase sensor data.  With the new phase sensor installed, it was getting input, and thus permitted longer cranking.  This has nothing to do with the battery, starter, solenoid, etc since I didn't change any of that stuff.

I did 4 crank attempts for 3-5 seconds each time.   Eventually all the air was purged out of the fuel lines and the engine started.

And I can confirm that a '13 Stone has no shims beneath the phase sensor.  It's just an O-ring.
« Last Edit: March 04, 2017, 08:44:26 PM by SmithSwede »
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Re: Starter works normally for 1 second, then stops
« Reply #32 on: March 04, 2017, 09:14:14 PM »
Victory Prescott!  Good to hear the V7 is back running again!
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Re: Starter works normally for 1 second, then stops
« Reply #33 on: March 04, 2017, 09:15:52 PM »
Excellent!  :thumb:

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Re: Starter works normally for 1 second, then stops
« Reply #34 on: March 04, 2017, 10:32:34 PM »
Next time you replace a fuel filter, remember that the new one is full of air.  Rather than cranking the engine to purge that air, you should just be able to on/off cycle the kill switch.  Each ON cycle should run the fuel pump for about 3 seconds before it halts.  Four or five of those and the filter and fuel lines will now be full of gasoline.

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