Pick one

[Ncdan]

Ok guys, question for the day. Here's the senecio.
You are going for a spin on your favorite twisty today and suddenly have a premonition that you are going to take a spill due to hitting an oil slick in the middle of a curve at 50 mph and skid for a while on your person. Shrugging off the feeling as BS, decide to ride. You have two jackets, one good quality leather motorcycle jacket and one good quality textile motorcycle jacket. Which one will you decide to put on for the ride? Seriously, I ride in both , just curious as to how my fellow riders here think about the subject.
Have a great weekend guys!

[Tilter]

Stay home today -  go riding tomorrow.  If all things are equal comfort wise pick the jacket that has better abrasion resistance and impact protection.  Leather could be half a mm thick and the textile could be one of those super protective Columbia jackets...

[StuCorpe]

My choice would be the leather as I have slid a long ways in one and never had it wear through. But that is strictly a personal opinion, choose whatever you are the most comfortable with or like the least as it will be trash afterwords!

[lucian]

Depends of the type of oil slick, would hate to get synthetic on my leather, or worse gear lube

[fotoguzzi]

I always wear my very old 'Stich but it has fairly new armor and that's why.

[TimmyTheHog]

Leather  :1:

On top of that, even if you do go down which I hope you don't, the oil can shine up your coat...

[normzone]

Depends of the type of oil slick, would hate to get synthetic on my leather, or worse gear lube

I'm with you (sorta) - Oil is good for leather, so that would be my choice if it's engine oil, but if it's transmission or final drive oil then I stay home.

But all I own is fabric, so ...

[rodekyll]

Ok guys, question for the day. Here's the senecio.
You are going for a spin on your favorite twisty today and suddenly have a premonition that you are going to take a spill due to hitting an oil slick in the middle of a curve at 50 mph and skid for a while on your person. Shrugging off the feeling as BS, decide to ride. You have two jackets, one good quality leather motorcycle jacket and one good quality textile motorcycle jacket. Which one will you decide to put on for the ride? Seriously, I ride in both , just curious as to how my fellow riders here think about the subject.
Have a great weekend guys!

I think if you must ride after a bad feeling about the ride, by all means wear both.  Me, I'd put it off till tomorrow. 

I ride for fun, but I dress for impact.  I have a very good armored "Xpert" leather jacket from Eagle Leather that weighs about 10# and would probably go the distance.  I also have an armored Tourmaster textile jacket that weighs about the same and is probably as good as it gets in touring gear.  The leather is only good to about 50º and is useless in the rain.  The textile gets too hot above 70º, but sheds water well and is hi-viz.  So for me, if I had to ride when my spidey senses told me there was trouble ahead, and there always is, I'd dress for the weather.

[Ncdan]

Lol, good well thought out responses so far. I realize it's a controversial subject but there is a better choice of the two as the results of extremely in depth research which I will hold out going into but I'll offer a hint. The next motorcycle road race that's on tv or live make a note of the ridding suit materials the racers are wearing;)

[Lumpy Idle]

my choice would be the outift that had the En-1621 (1&2) armor inside. the old school notion was that you needed leather for its skid resistance but the new fabric composites have plenty of skid resistance. a decent jacket will have decent armor.  i wound up replacing my old leather jacket with a tourmaster textile with crappy stock armor (its just a craptastic foam pad.) after that i shopped around and talked myself into a clover textile jacket  but when it came time to tally up the cost i balked. instead i went with the firstgear kilmanjaro with upgraded d3o armor. so far, so good, i am relatively rain proof and acceptably skid resistant.

the thing that motivate me to migrate away from the leather jacket and levi's was the day i got caught out in the rain very far from home. i got home, hung the jacket up to dry out (haven't worn it since) and went shopping for a textile jacket pants/combo.

i have a joe rocket survivor suit for longer rides. i replaced the armor with D3O. its not a 'stich but i really like it.

[oldbike54]

 Ride around the oil slick 

 Dusty

[nick949]

Premonitions are hokum. Just ride.

[Ncdan]

Premonitions are hokum. Just ride.

Lol nick, the jest of the post was about the choice between leather or textile protection but I get your point:)

[Ncdan]

Ride around the oil slick 

 Dusty

Ok Dusty, let's just pretend the oil slick is right in the middle of the blind curve and invisible. Lol, you guys are a hoot. Campfires at a guzzi rally would be a blast:)

[TodkaVonic]

Horsehide over textile for me.

A quick look at the most expensive race suits at revzilla (because I was curious) shows that both are leather (kangaroo and cow) and one (the dainese) is lousy with airbags and requires a service contract 

[nick949]

Lol nick, the jest of the post was about the choice between leather or textile protection but I get your point:)

Yea - sorry bout that. I'd go for leather, just because it feels so sexy 

Nick

[Ncdan]

Yea - sorry bout that. I'd go for leather, just because it feels so sexy 

Nick

Lol, all in fun, I agree with you Nick and I love the smell of leather, mix it with spent gun powder and it gets close to orgasmic😂

[Yukonica]

Leather... from a marsupial if I could afford it. For now I'll settle for my Held gear.
Here's a screen shot of a guy who regularly puts the suit to test.

[charlie b]

When I get premonitions like this I listen to them and don't ride (or whatever else it might be about).  Mine have come true quite a few times.

As for leather vs textile.  I wore textile most of the time, sometimes just jeans and in my youth just shorts and tennis shoes.  I did have a leather jacket for a while.  I wore it when I wanted to 'look nice' like a client meeting.

[Huzo]

Premonitions are not BS. They are your sub conscious running the numbers on a risk assessment when engaging in a hazardous activity. If you're about to put a move on a beautiful girl and her quarterback boyfriend is beside her, you may have a premonition the you are gonna be handed your own ass. That would be a risk assessment at work, and might save you some grief... Just sayin'.

[Ncdan]

Premonitions are not BS. They are your sub conscious running the numbers on a risk assessment when engaging in a hazardous activity. If you're about to put a move on a beautiful girl and her quarterback boyfriend is beside her, you may have a premonition the you are gonna be handed your own ass. That would be a risk assessment at work, and might save you some grief... Just sayin'.

Lol, ok guys I'm sorry I jump started this subject with the little premonition story. It was simply a precursor to the subject of ones personal feelings between two types of ridding gear. Can't stop laughing,
You guys are more fun than Saturday nite live:).  I knew this would make a fun weekend, bout as much as ridding my calvin, can't stop grinning. Keep up the great responses!

[rodekyll]

But the premonition is an important part of riding.  I call it my "spidey senses" at work, and it keeps me out of a lot of trouble.  I mean -- it's nice to believe that your hi-tek gear is going to make you invulnerable to that oily patch, but the better solution is always to not go there.

Oh -- and I always assume there's an oil slick or a tree branch or a moose in the blind part of the curve.  I cringe when I get passed in blind curves by squids who think the only hazard inherent in a curve is the radius.

[TodkaVonic]

What some people call "premonitions," others would term having a "gut feeling.�  The former has often been synonymous with foretelling the future while the latter uses past experience and knowledge to present possible outcomes to a given circumstance. Clearly not the same. I would argue that premonitions are bunk, since nobody, not your aunt June, not the lady with the tarot cards, not the stock brokers, and not the poker players, nobody can tell the future. But we all have had gut feelings about things and events and, whether true or not, confirmation bias leads most of us to conclude that our gut feelings are most often correct.

That aside, has anybody argued for textile jackets yet? Or have we put that part of this debate to bed?

[rodekyll]

I argued for textile under 50º and in the rain.

[TodkaVonic]

I argued for textile under 50� and in the rain.

Missed that rodekyll.

It's moot because I'm not choosing to ride if it's under 50 and raining...and plus, I had a bad feeling about riding anyway, so namaste here and have some hot chocolate thankyouverymuch.

[Huzo]

Lol, ok guys I'm sorry I jump started this subject with the little premonition story. It was simply a precursor to the subject of ones personal feelings between two types of ridding gear. Can't stop laughing,
You guys are more fun than Saturday nite live:).  I knew this would make a fun weekend, bout as much as ridding my dcalvin, can't stop grinning. Keep up the great responses!

Nah , good topic NC, oh and BTW, riding has one "d". A good application of your word would be..... "I'm thinking up ways of ridding myself of smarty pants Aussies who trawl for spelling errors".

[charlie b]

Well, a premonition can be not bunk.  I've had premonitions in dreams and they do come true in some fashion.  I also have 'gut feelings' and I heed them too.

I'd still wear textile  :)

[Ncdan]

Nah , good topic NC, oh and BTW, riding has one "d". A good application of your word would be..... "I'm thinking up ways of ridding myself of smarty pants Aussies who trawl for spelling errors".

Huzo, maybe I was talking about RIDDING instead of RIDDING in that sentence, lol
Not only do I have spelling issues , I'm to lazy to spell check before hitting the POST button ,lol😂
You aussies are too much. By the way was TOO correct or should it have been spelled TO, teacher;)

[Nic in Western NYS]

It's not very cool in more ways than one, but I wear a leather 'bomber' jacket under my textile riding jacket.  I lost weight and I tuck in the bomber jacket into my (now too big) leather overpants or the pants won't fit right (I know, they don't fit right anyway but I haven't budgeted new leather overpants). 
Also, if I had a premonition of crashing, I wouldn't ride that day because I wouldn't have the right attitude for a ride.

[Diploman]

I just ordered an Olympia Dakar2 jacket (hi-Viz) to replace my 5-year old Olympia.  Olympia jackets are very well-made and full of intelligent features.  One attractive new feature of the Dakar2 is a rain liner -with hood - that can be worn either inside the jacket shell or outside, over the jacket. If you have to ride in the rain, the latter is the way to go, IMO.

Olympia textile jackets are excellent, but the CE-rated armor supplied with the jackets is just OK, not outstanding.  I take out all the removable armor and wear a Forcefield armored shirt underneath.  The shirt holds Forcefield's highly-rated Nitrex armor -
 including back protector and chest pad - firmly in place exactly where it should be.  I like this jacket/armor combination.