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New trick for removing broken bolts
« on: April 14, 2017, 11:02:58 AM »
I had six grade 10 bolts break just under flush at the surface, quite smoothly sheared.  It was a difficult place to drill them out, and grade 10 isn't easy to put a hole in.  The bolts were not bottomed out, so I figured they were loose in the bores.  But how to spin them out when a reverse drill bit won't bite?

I put a tiny ball-ended burr from my dremel kit on the reversing drill motor and started grinding (against the grain of the burr).  It would grab after a few seconds and start the threaded shaft out by a 1/4 turn or so.  A little more grinding and a little more turn, until I was able to use the eraser end of a pencil to spin it out enough to grab with my fingers.  Easy-peasy x 6.  After fighting one for an hour yesterday and getting nowhere, I had all six out by this method in under 15 minutes.  I think I owe myself a beer.

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Re: New trick for removing broken bolts
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2017, 11:05:31 AM »
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Re: New trick for removing broken bolts
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2017, 11:17:00 AM »
6? you owe yourself a torque wrench
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Re: New trick for removing broken bolts
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2017, 11:35:09 AM »
I LOVE reading stories of triumph like this. Thanks for the tip.
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Re: New trick for removing broken bolts
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2017, 11:36:29 AM »
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Re: New trick for removing broken bolts
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2017, 11:41:45 AM »
Same-same, Matt.   :cry:

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Re: New trick for removing broken bolts
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2017, 11:45:46 AM »
Well played!
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Re: New trick for removing broken bolts
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2017, 03:42:06 PM »
Brilliant!
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Re: New trick for removing broken bolts
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2017, 03:50:29 PM »
Well done that man.  :thumb:

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Re: New trick for removing broken bolts
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2017, 04:28:06 PM »
Well done that man.  :thumb:

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Re: New trick for removing broken bolts
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2017, 01:18:48 AM »
Yes, ingenuity and having the right stuff to pull it off.  :thumb:

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Re: New trick for removing broken bolts
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2017, 02:38:13 AM »
Can you post a pic of the bolts? Specifically the top where you did the grinding.  Thx!
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Re: New trick for removing broken bolts
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2017, 02:42:53 AM »
Well done that man.  :thumb:

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Truly inventive. I would never have thought of that myself. :thumb:
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Re: New trick for removing broken bolts
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2017, 06:00:17 AM »

Cool.

But it would be more helpful to me and some others if you could recreate the situation and put the vid on youtube.  :shocked:

That way, folks like me could tell Wayne Orwig that's what we need done.  He's a visual sort of guy and gets annoyed at my use of "thingamabob" and "doohatchee with spikes," etc.   :grin:

Seriously, impressive.

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Re: New trick for removing broken bolts
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2017, 09:15:12 AM »
I have a dremel kit but I am not sure which piece is the ball end burr.  Yes, I am a bit thick at times!
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Re: New trick for removing broken bolts
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2017, 01:47:30 PM »
In  similar situations, Ive cut a slot across the broken end. Using either a burr or a cut-off disc. I try a screw driver first, and if that doesn't work I move up to a Vessel impact driver with a straight bit. It worked on sheared bolts and stripped out hex heads.

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Re: New trick for removing broken bolts
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2017, 10:21:16 PM »
In  similar situations, Ive cut a slot across the broken end. Using either a burr or a cut-off disc. I try a screw driver first, and if that doesn't work I move up to a Vessel impact driver with a straight bit. It worked on sheared bolts and stripped out hex heads.

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Re: New trick for removing broken bolts
« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2017, 08:29:48 AM »
In  similar situations, Ive cut a slot across the broken end. Using either a burr or a cut-off disc. I try a screw driver first, and if that doesn't work I move up to a Vessel impact driver with a straight bit. It worked on sheared bolts and stripped out hex heads.

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This is one of my favorites...cut the slot in the broken bolt end and get the biggest flat blade on it I can...But I like Dave's idea as you can get purchase when there is nothing to cut...maybe I'll try a combo of the two next time...ball end out enough to cut the slot then withdraw.


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Re: New trick for removing broken bolts
« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2017, 10:20:28 AM »
Bolts were broken flush or below flush.  6" space to work in -- used a right-angle drill motor.  While I was trying revere drill bits I was cutting their shanks to shorten them up.  I had to sit to the side rather than work straight on.  So there was no possibility of cutting a slot without damaging something.  Until I got the burr idea I was anticipating pulling the engine for the necessary access.

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Re: New trick for removing broken bolts
« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2017, 05:45:36 PM »
I like the dual use for a small burr. One of the screw extractors I have uses a left handed drill similar to these which are available from many vendors. This is a short set so they are a little more versatile. They are a very hard  material which will drill into any bolt with a bit of care.  And if the bolt does not spin out it gives you a very good starter hole for the next size drill.    https://www.lowes.com/pd/IRWIN-Impact-SCREW-GRIP-Double-Ended-Screw-Extractor-Set/1000065735  Mike

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