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Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2017, 08:14:06 PM »
 Being a septugenarian and longtime sidecar pilot I can say, T'works for me.  Yoga on the other hand may enable you to kiss your ass goodby when the time comes.
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Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2017, 10:01:17 PM »
After the novelty of camping wears off, for me it's just a means to an activity. I always enjoyed camping in the winter, especially ski touring, but there would not be much interest to camp in the cold in my back yard.

On bikes, I can travel a LOT lighter using hotels. We camped for three months touring around-boy, it sure was nice to get a room now and then!

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« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2017, 11:48:06 PM »
[quote author=Aaron D. link=topic=89687.msg1417370#msg1417370 .

On bikes, I can travel a LOT lighter using hotels. We camped for three months touring around-boy, it sure was nice to get a room now and then!
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Yeah, if you have enough $ to pull it off.   :undecided:  Motel prices aren't staying as cheap as they used to be.  :huh:  Maybe it has something to do with inflation.

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Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
« Reply #33 on: April 16, 2017, 07:12:39 AM »
[quote author=Aaron D. link=topic=89687.msg1417370#msg1417370 .

On bikes, I can travel a LOT lighter using hotels. We camped for three months touring around-boy, it sure was nice to get a room now and then!



Yeah, if you have enough $ to pull it off.   :undecided:  Motel prices aren't staying as cheap as they used to be.  :huh:  Maybe it has something to do with inflation.

Depending on what kind of camping you do, and what kind of motels you stay at, there might not be that huge a difference.   There's such a big range.

If you stay in franchised kampgrounds (oops, spelled it wrong!) it can be $40 a night just for a tent spot.   If you get a kabin with no running water, just lights and a place to throw a bedroll, it can be $60 or $80.   Of course, if you ask permission to camp in a fallow pasture, or in a national forest, or the back of a town park, you can stay for free.

Hotels are just as wide a range.   You can still find a clean (if shabby) place, like the Elkins Economy Lodge for less than $50 a night, although that will sometimes get you a literal flea trap.   (The one time I wished I had a portable computer that would show hotel ratings was the evening we stayed in the "Budgetel" in Gainesville, Georgia last year.)    If you can find a string of clean $50 places on the road, you can stay out a couple months without too much pain.

And then, you get in a situation like I did coming back from the National once.   8:00 at night, getting dark, had done 600 miles, 300 miles from home, and a black squall line straddling the road ahead.   And like a beacon of light, a "Holiday Inn Express" gleamed from the side of the highway.

"Express", that's the cheap version of the "Holiday Inn", isn't it?   This'll be great.   The lovely desk clerk invited me to park under the front verandah under cover from the storm, I unloaded my bag, went in to settle up ... and it was $149 a night ....   They had me, though, I was in for the night.   

But do much of that on a long trip and anyone'll go broke before they get home ....

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Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
« Reply #34 on: April 16, 2017, 07:51:45 AM »
Aging is a mixed bag. Yes, my body is pretty beat up, but if I do my part with diet, stretching, and exercise I manage to move around in away that is about 70% as good as I ever could. Since I'm retired, I have a wonderfully flexible schedule. Also, I managed to pay off all my bills and have more disposable income than I ever had before. My life experiences have taught me to avoid bad, ego-driven decisions. I have grandkids...

All things considered, getting old is a good deal easier than being young!
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Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
« Reply #35 on: April 16, 2017, 10:49:31 AM »
Mr. Hagan,

I hope you are still riding when you reach my age of 32 years, hahaha. Can not give out my actual age, it is a Federal Government TOP Secret.

I have a few bikes left that don' required folding yourself like a pocket knife as my Daytona does. And I did give up my old Corvette after not adding more than 400 miles a year, brought tears to my eyes seeing it leave the driveway realizing it was too late to undo the deal, that is the reason I'm having a difficult time letting go of the Daytona.

Doctors want to install better knees but I think most of them think they need my money, just they have a good memory and passed a test to become doctors does not necessarily makes them intelligently enough to know what I need, could be corrupted thinking on my part or simply I like my old knees so much I don't want to give them up.

At this point in time I may need to get a protective suite from the Michelin tire man to give adequate protection.

Hope to make more rides with you in the future, that is when I become more mature.

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Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
« Reply #36 on: April 16, 2017, 10:51:37 AM »
When I get old, I'll tell you guys what it's like.. :evil:  :smiley:
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Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
« Reply #37 on: April 16, 2017, 10:59:38 AM »
Sasquatch Jim,

The sidecar for camping is working very well for me also, I can take all the comforts of home plus Suzy-Q my trusty dog. And I see your point about yoga, not that I agree as I may not have enough time to kiss it since I have slowed down with advanced maturity.



Chuck in Indiana,

If it is any indication of age, I noticed last time I saw you there seemed to be quite a few platinum hair on your head than on mine.

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Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
« Reply #38 on: April 16, 2017, 11:14:28 AM »
  I still pilot my sidecar but can't go camping.  If I lie down on the ground, I have a lot of trouble getting up.
 And walking is a bit of a pain.  Most Guzzi campouts are not in wheelchair compatible places.  Example is my favorite,
 The Deep Forest Campout in Washington State.
 I have a lot less platinum hair now.
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Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
« Reply #39 on: April 16, 2017, 04:34:12 PM »
Sasquatch Jim,

The sidecar for camping is working very well for me also, I can take all the comforts of home plus Suzy-Q my trusty dog. And I see your point about yoga, not that I agree as I may not have enough time to kiss it since I have slowed down with advanced maturity.



Chuck in Indiana,

If it is any indication of age, I noticed last time I saw you there seemed to be quite a few platinum hair on your head than on mine.

Grant

Grey hair is a small price to pay for this much wisdom.. :smiley: :boozing:
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Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
« Reply #40 on: April 16, 2017, 05:32:06 PM »
I like bikes that are light and or low, don't see why some of us have 800lb monsters. My Cal Stone really
Isn't heavy and it's low. And it sounds good, lol

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Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
« Reply #41 on: April 16, 2017, 06:06:27 PM »
Once the difficulties & inconvenience of camping exceed the fun factor, it's then reasonable & sensible to buy your bed for the night. When free camping is no longer easy to find & it costs nearly as much to camp as to pay for a bed (with showers & facilities) as is happening more & more in the developed world, it then may be just too hard. I use a hammock, so I sleep on a cloud, dress standing up & the only thing that gets wet is the fly. Easy & comfortable. I have some mates you have moved to the Redvers style palace with the bike garage built in. They dress standing up too, & sleep on a stretcher with a comfortable mattress. Over here in Oz we still have lots of places to camp free or cheaply, so that's not a problem. During our trip around the country last year, in 105 days my cousin & I camped half the time, paid for a bed (cabins/pubs/motels) a quarter of the time, and the other quarter with friends. Worked out well, and a lot of the places we camped were stunning. I'll keep on doing it as long as I can. It's great out there.

I will admit though, that the swag (for those that don't know it, it's like a super bivy bag) no longer gets much use. It's quick to lay out & to roll up, doesn't require any trees & warm & dry, but there's really not much room in there - OK for a couple of nights, but not the sort of place to wait out a couple of days for the rain to stop. And it takes up more room on the bike than the hammock. But so far, it's still better than a motel. That may change.

On the other hand, I came across a guy on a new GXSR750. He was dressed in a one piece leather suit, had only a tank bra with a wallet & a phone, and had ridden 40,000 km in 3 months. Credit card camping extraordinaire. Very impressive.

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Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
« Reply #42 on: April 16, 2017, 06:26:30 PM »
It's been decades since I could sleep well on dirt or grass. Ironically, snow is easier -- On a multi-day ski tour I can dig a snow cave each night and hibernate like a bear. A shelf for sleep, a shelf for cooking, a roll of insulation and a big down bag. Skiing is what keeps my bones and joints working -- riding and driving just don't provide the range of motion necessary to avoid stiffening up after three or four hours. This summer I need to get back on the bicycle in some kind of regular if not rigorous fashion.

We built the camper van specifically to avoid tent camping. Overnighting via motorcycle nowadays means visiting friends, or moteling, or shlepping the bike on the back of the van. 
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Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
« Reply #43 on: April 16, 2017, 08:50:04 PM »
Grey hair is a small price to pay for this much wisdom.. :smiley: :boozing:

Just grey hair?  HAH, that's not going to pay for much wisdom.   Once you kick in a bad knee, a pot belly, eyes going bad, ED, and peripheral neuropathy, THAT'S when you get some wisdom worth talking about.

Uh ... At least that's what an old guy told me once ....

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« Reply #44 on: April 16, 2017, 10:38:37 PM »
Depending on what kind of camping you do, and what kind of motels you stay at, there might not be that huge a difference.   There's such a big range.

If you stay in franchised kampgrounds (oops, spelled it wrong!) it can be $40 a night just for a tent spot.   If you get a kabin with no running water, just lights and a place to throw a bedroll, it can be $60 or $80.   Of course, if you ask permission to camp in a fallow pasture, or in a national forest, or the back of a town park, you can stay for free.

Hotels are just as wide a range.   You can still find a clean (if shabby) place, like the Elkins Economy Lodge for less than $50 a night, although that will sometimes get you a literal flea trap.   (The one time I wished I had a portable computer that would show hotel ratings was the evening we stayed in the "Budgetel" in Gainesville, Georgia last year.)    If you can find a string of clean $50 places on the road, you can stay out a couple months without too much pain.

And then, you get in a situation like I did coming back from the National once.   8:00 at night, getting dark, had done 600 miles, 300 miles from home, and a black squall line straddling the road ahead.   And like a beacon of light, a "Holiday Inn Express" gleamed from the side of the highway.

"Express", that's the cheap version of the "Holiday Inn", isn't it?   This'll be great.   The lovely desk clerk invited me to park under the front verandah under cover from the storm, I unloaded my bag, went in to settle up ... and it was $149 a night ....   They had me, though, I was in for the night.   

But do much of that on a long trip and anyone'll go broke before they get home ....

Lannis

Camping real cheap is making a bivouac. That's how I've done it, sleeping in free sites and wherever there were trees.
I've been to rallies, not to many doing that!

Get way from the interstates and hotels aren't bad pricewise. They may smell funny though! Still with the price of some rigs and campgrounds, a motel is a very reasonable choice for the unplanned traveler.

After that there is couchsurfing.

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Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
« Reply #45 on: April 17, 2017, 12:57:10 AM »
Be warned the so called discount high volume independent outfits that claim they can get you a good deal @ X place are a con nowadays.  Example............ .I was looking for a decent price for staying in a motel @ the Datil, NM Guzzi state Rally this year.  Much to my surprise I found a few high volume Motel discount places that offered me a deal there.  There deal was charging me $30 more per night than if I just called the motel and made the reservation myself.  :rolleyes:  Again, it pays to shop around if you can.  Many times a small time motel is cheaper than a motel chain, but not always.  Of course it also depends how demanding you are to be happy too.  We just want a place to sleep with no bugs and some ice available in the deal.  But even that is not an automatic when you're dealing with India/Pakistani operators.   If I'm @ any motel that's not part of a national chain I want to see the room before I commit.  :azn:  Even doing that is no guarantee I'll be happy there.   But I'm not very picky, except for price.  Nowadays it seems if you get a motel room for no more than $60 you're doing good.  :huh:  At least  out West.

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Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
« Reply #46 on: April 17, 2017, 09:41:11 AM »
I'm 64 and capable of 500 mile days in the saddle however don't like more than 300 when touring. I hit the gym 3 times a week, maintain a proper height weight ratio, eat property, only drink when I want SOME:) and get a physical every year. I do thake meds for elivated BP,  cholesterol,and sugar. I ride sensibly and CCW at all times. Don't take this as a brag, im simply blessed beyond words. Happy Easter fellow guzziest.

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Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
« Reply #47 on: April 17, 2017, 10:26:59 AM »
I like small-town, off-the-highway motels. They're usually picturesque, comfortably appointed, clean, and affordable. I stayed at one such place in Buffalo, WY last year and as tempted to stay an extra day! My wife doesn't tour with me, but is my constant companion via a tracking app and my cell phone. As I get tired or start running out of daylight, she finds me an interesting-yet-affordable place to spend the night. This allows me to just concentrate on my riding experience without having to follow a set schedule. Great wife, my Susana...
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Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
« Reply #48 on: April 17, 2017, 11:00:53 AM »
Getting old does not mean you have to give up having fun or Moto Guzzi's .    I'm 62 now and have a mint 2003 titanium, I bought it so I could build one of these but am saving up for the kit. In the meantime I will ride it as and when I can.... I live two miles up a gravel road, that's my main problem with two wheels..



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Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
« Reply #49 on: April 17, 2017, 11:09:18 AM »
They are small and light and the handling is good.


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Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
« Reply #50 on: April 17, 2017, 11:29:21 AM »
Yes...when the time comes when I can no longer "SAFELY" manage two-wheels...I am definitely going this route!! :cool: - - - as I will not sit home with the TV remote on the couch...waiting to DIE!!  :laugh: :grin: :wink:










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Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
« Reply #51 on: April 17, 2017, 11:44:55 AM »
 I think three wheels are just as much fun as two wheels, and you can take the dog too.

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Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
« Reply #52 on: April 17, 2017, 11:57:12 AM »
Neat way to address the balance pipe problem.


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« Reply #53 on: April 17, 2017, 12:39:22 PM »
Traveling frequently between the Pacific and the Mississippi I have found several motels operated by those from the Punjab and Pakistan and have found them to my liking.
They usually are clean , friendly, have great WyFi coffee in room and run about $50 or so. (Some will cut you a deal for CASH).

 One of my requirements is to be able to park in front of the room.

I have to admit that I like having a bed and shower for good rest but it absolutely has nothing to do with age.
Camp when its the only practical option. With a good air mat and a one man tent and warm blanket I'm set for a couple of nites.

That's me, mostly.   With 60%+ of the hotels/motels in the USA being owned/operated by the Patils, we sure hope there's no correlation between ownership and quality.   Can't say I've found a difference.

However, like it or not, motels that are being used partly to house "homeless" under some state or federal program are generally pretty horrible.   I've been caught out twice that way .... I do my due-diligence now, no more of that.

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« Reply #54 on: April 18, 2017, 10:10:47 AM »
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Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
« Reply #55 on: April 18, 2017, 12:10:33 PM »
mgmark,

I'm a charter member of that club.

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« Reply #56 on: April 18, 2017, 03:09:00 PM »
Do you gentlemen also find that you tend to injure yourself more as time passes.  Within the past six months two trips to the Emergency Room, once while drilling holes in my home made throttle body covers for the Bassa.  The bit broke and drilled between my thumb and fore finger, four stitches. Two weeks ago while trimming the hedges at a tip toe point, the trimmer slipped back and cut the top of my "New York Hello" finger to include the fingernail down the middle.  That was a real pleasure in the ER when the Doctor stitched it with no numbing what so ever.  He said it would hurt just as much to numb as to stitch, damn sure gets your attention.   The Wife is beginning to believe I have something going with one the of ER Nurses, but we are starting to get on a first name basics. The irony is I am 68 years old and have never spent a night in the hospital, apparently I just like to visit as my senior mishaps are increasing......... .....

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« Reply #57 on: April 18, 2017, 03:27:25 PM »
LOL...like on the tv show "Home Improvement" whenever Tim 'The Toolman' Taylor walked into the ER (again!) the whole staff turns and yells out "Tim!"  :thumb:

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« Reply #58 on: April 18, 2017, 03:32:02 PM »
yeah...that getting old and working is hard. 

A buddy 67, was building a shed, fell off his ladder twice, fainted after the first lick and hit his head on a coffee table.  Finally went to the ER on the last fall with a dislocated elbow and upon examination add two concussions, a few cracked ribs and two sprained ankles.  They just put his elbow back in place and made him do a bunch of rehab.  When he visited me he wasn't even using a cane.
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« Reply #59 on: April 18, 2017, 03:57:18 PM »
Do you gentlemen also find that you tend to injure yourself more as time passes.  Within the past six months two trips to the Emergency Room, once while drilling holes in my home made throttle body covers for the Bassa.  The bit broke and drilled between my thumb and fore finger, four stitches. Two weeks ago while trimming the hedges at a tip toe point, the trimmer slipped back and cut the top of my "New York Hello" finger to include the fingernail down the middle.  That was a real pleasure in the ER when the Doctor stitched it with no numbing what so ever.  He said it would hurt just as much to numb as to stitch, damn sure gets your attention.   The Wife is beginning to believe I have something going with one the of ER Nurses, but we are starting to get on a first name basics. The irony is I am 68 years old and h





ave never spent a night in the hospital, apparently I just like to visit as my senior mishaps are increasing......... .....
Good point Brit. I have found that in need to take a little more time and think about what I'm doing more. When I'm worked on something I tend to watch where my fingers and toes are :(

 


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