1100 sporti value?

[Lumpy Idle]

i just read grant's post about the daytona on ebay that sold for $11k. that surprised me. i had no idea what they were worth these days. i also appreciated the listing of the numbers and years of production. that helps put it into perspective.

i would like to know how many 1100 sporti's were made and what y'all estimate their current (stateside) value to be.  medicandy seems to have accumulated a large collection of them. any idea andy? dave?

thanks

(oh, apologies if this has already been covered in recent times)

[tazio]

Get yours now.
When Ducatis climb out of reach of the average Joe, eyes will turn to all things goose.
YMMV

[swooshdave]

Just in case you were wondering the Sporti is not a Daytona so don't expect it to pull up the prices on those bikes. The Sporti 1100s won't go up in price until the later LeMans have climbed.

[Lumpy Idle]

oh, i know they are not the same. i rode a daytona in '96 at the teo lamers open house and from that day forward i was convinced i had to have either it or (later) one of its cousins down the line. i like my yellow sporti - just wondering what its current market value might be and how many were made.

[tazio]

40~60 Yellows in to the USA I've heard tell. Regret selling mine but my neck said "time to move on".

[Chuck in Indiana]

40~60 Yellows in to the USA I've heard tell. Regret selling mine but my neck said "time to move on".

Your personal trainer would have said, " build up your core, wimp."  Don't ask me how I know...

[Lumpy Idle]

i suspect a trainer might bark out exactly that.  when i get off my sporti after an extended ride two things are really noticeable: 1) my neck pops, some vertebrae up their are realigning themselves, 2) my right wrist is killin' me in that area below the thumb and through the wrist joint.  some ibuprofen and i'm fine but i think there is definitely a clock on my sporty riding days.

[rocker59]

Sport 1100 injection, 1997: $3500 - $5000.



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[tazio]

Your personal trainer would have said, " build up your core, wimp."  Don't ask me how I know...

Too many dirt bike "get-off's" in my past. Hell, just one mountain bike wreck resulted in 2 broke ribs,
punctured lung, severed tendon, bla bla bla...
My personal trainer has said "Act your age  " (that would be my wife).

[blackcat]

Sport 1100 injection, 1997: $3500 - $5000.



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Most non-collectible Guzzi's in decent running shape end up in this price range.

[Murray]

Get yours now.
When Ducatis climb out of reach of the average Joe, eyes will turn to all things goose.
YMMV

If piaggio lets Guzzi pull its head out of its arse and let it make something like a modern bike go racing if they have success then they will get going. While they make cruisers and hipster bikes nothing will happen to the rather optimistically named sporting line.

[sdcr]

Mike,

I can't disagree with your numbers, but I've always thought that the Sport 1100's are seriously undervalued. I expected that right after I sold my last Sport 1100, the values would immediately rise. But, that was five years ago, and I still see that they can be bought for as little as $3500.

Sport 1100 injection, 1997: $3500 - $5000.


 
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[swooshdave]

Everything has a depreciation and appreciation curve. It's just that some curves are longer than others.

https://youtu.be/XW-szjN_MdA

[Lumpy Idle]

nice clip.

considering the relative handful of these bikes imported to the u.s. and the possibility of sport bikes crashing out over time i am surprised that the remaining sporti's don't claim higher greenbacks.

[swooshdave]

nice clip.

considering the relative handful of these bikes imported to the u.s. and the possibility of sport bikes crashing out over time i am surprised that the remaining sporti's don't claim higher greenbacks.

Value is not exclusively tied to rarity. An 850-T was made for only a short while and perhaps a couple thousand were sold. They sold over ten thousand Vincent v-twins. Which one is more rare? Which one is more valuable?

[Lumpy Idle]

good point. perhaps i am universalizing the market place too much. what i mean is - i assume, in general terms, the the market is wide enough that an active cadre of interested buyers is out there for nearly anything. for example, i am fond of some versions of the old cushman scooters (see rebel without a cause for a kitsch shot or two of sal mineo on one.)  i never got around to picking one up and now, for some reason, they are becoming (to me) wildly pricey. i am/was overlooking the specificity of the market place and the nature of desire.  my first two bikes, not counting the doodlebug, were honda 305 scramblers (cl77's.)  i paid a few hundred for each of them back in the day and i would love to have one again for nostalgia purposes and because they are so light relative to my guzzi's. i would use the cl77 as a commute lane spliter. the prices on these things are through the roof. there aren't very many clean cl77's and clean old cushmans out there and thus the law of supply and demand takes root. i sort of assumed the same would apply to some degree with the sporti's but i am learning that the market place is driven by a certain fickle unpredictability as well.

[Tusayan]

I'm with those who think the 1100 Sports are undervalued in the current market.  Here's why: (1) they are exceptionally good looking (2) they are built like a tradional Italian sport bike, simple and elegant, not like a modern bike (3) they have more power than almost all comparable traditional air cooled Italian sport bikes like for instance a bevel Ducati SS worth 10x as much. They also handle a little better (4) they didn't make a great many of them and (4) they have genuine racing heritage through the Dr. John Wittner connection.  He led development of the 1100 Sport while working at the Guzzi factory - which is a heck of a good story.

[Lumpy Idle]

yup, i agree completely.

 mysteriously though, at the moment,  the invisible hand of the market seems to mime "not yet."

[rocker59]

I'm with those who thing the 1100 Sports are undervalued in the current market.  Here's why: (1) they are exceptionally good looking (2) they are built like a tradional Italian sport bike, simple and elegant, not like a modern bike (3) they have more power than almost all comparable traditional air cooled Italian sport bikes like for instance a bevel Ducati SS worth 10x as much. They also handle a little better (4) they didn't make a great many of them and (4) they have genuine racing heritage through the Dr. John Wittner connection.  He led development of the 1100 Sport while working at the Guzzi factory - which is heck of a good story.

Agreed. Hopefully too many won't be caff'd before they're rediscovered.

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[QCGoose]

40~60 Yellows in to the USA I've heard tell. Regret selling mine but my neck said "time to move on".

Tell your neck I said thanks!

[tazio]

Tell your neck I said thanks!

Lol !! Right !!
Totally went to the best home!! But man I sure knew I was on something special for those 20k miles

[MedicAndy]

I would like to know how many 1100 sporti's were made and what y'all estimate their current (stateside) value to be.  medicandy seems to have accumulated a large collection of them. any idea andy? dave?

Hi Dave,

Below are the estimated production numbers of the Daytona and 1100 Sport. I did not resurge the info, I Googled for the info, but about all of the info I was able to find suggests that the numbers are pretty much right on. I would love if someone has a further breakdown of not only the production numbers by year, but also the different color bikes produced for those years.




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I buy the 1100's because I like the way they look, sound, ride, and most of all I like that not everyone who owns a 1100 can have one. These bikes getting harder and harder to come by, and I think that the lower milage bikes will most definitely increase in value over time. I also think that most of the 1100 Sport bikes that people buy today will more then likely not be seen again for sale anytime soon. Many of the people who buy these bikes, I like to think, are collectors and enthusiasts of these bikes, and they will hold onto them, and thereby eventually driving the cost of these bikes up. I paid $2,500.00 - $5,200.00 between the four 1100's I currently own. I'm buying me another yellow Sporti (# 5), which I located within 30 miles of my home on Saturday). I would not sell any of the bikes I bought, but then again, I am a little OCD, so I am trying to get all of my bikes back to perfect running and showroom condition, which is not cheap either. I probably spend on average about $1.5K per bike to get them fully mechanically operational and cosmetically pleasing to the eye! I also noticed that all but one of the bikes I bought so far were in need of servicing, tune-ups, brakes, some needed tires, ...). I only take each of the 1100's out a couple of times per year, since I have other bikes I also enjoy riding, and I only have but so much time. I hope that my daughter will learn to appreciate these bike as time goes by, and after I move on to bikers haven!

This is the most expensive Sporti, which I have purchased so far. This is a now 7.2k miles bike, which was displayed at the Wisconsin Motorcycle Museum for most of her life. I paid right at $5.2k for this bike, and then another $500.00 for a new rear tire and a good service. I guess everything has a price, but some things can't get replaced when you sell them! For me, and maybe only for me, I would not take $10k for this bike if offered, because I don't think that I could find me another 1100 in as good original condition (I have a spare original 97 exhaust system) as this bike is.

Best regards,

Andy




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[swooshdave]

I'm with those who think the 1100 Sports are undervalued in the current market.  Here's why: (1) they are exceptionally good looking (2) they are built like a tradional Italian sport bike, simple and elegant, not like a modern bike (3) they have more power than almost all comparable traditional air cooled Italian sport bikes like for instance a bevel Ducati SS worth 10x as much. They also handle a little better (4) they didn't make a great many of them and (4) they have genuine racing heritage through the Dr. John Wittner connection.  He led development of the 1100 Sport while working at the Guzzi factory - which is a heck of a good story.

You can't really compare a bevel 900SS to a Sporti. The fair comparison to the 900SS is the LeMans MkI.

The really comparison to the Sporti is a belt drive 900SS, and do you want to guess what an average cost is? Yup, same as the Sporti...

Moto Guzzi is a niche market. Outside of Guzzi circles the number of people who know or care about Dr. John, again with all due respect, is low.

[Tusayan]

You can't really compare a bevel 900SS to a Sporti. The fair comparison to the 900SS is the LeMans MkI.

The really comparison to the Sporti is a belt drive 900SS, and do you want to guess what an average cost is? Yup, same as the Sporti...

Moto Guzzi is a niche market. Outside of Guzzi circles the number of people who know or care about Dr. John, again with all due respect, is low.

If the market equates an 1100 Sport Guzzi with a belt 900SS that may explain the comparable market values, but that would indicate to me that the average buyer hasn't had much experience with both.  The 1100 Sport is much different motorcycle, a higher quality piece, more like a bevel 900SS in character.  I've owned a bevel SS, Le Mans, belt SS, 1100 Sport and also a Daytona, so I feel relatively free to compare them all.  I still have four of the five:  I sold the 1100 Sport some years ago but given the current prices I'm considering buying another, probably a carbureted version.  The 1100 Sports aren't quite as on rails in feel as my bevel SS but steer similarly, with about 15 more horsepower and somewhat better rear suspension.  The Daytona is a heavy 1100 Sport with still more power.  My belt SS is more like an all purpose modern sport bike (more or less), very different in feel and not built with the same quality, but lighter and a lot of fun to ride.  More like an SV650.  I maintain mine carefully but it was clearly designed as a throw away bike.  My 70s Le Mans is not as good a sport bike as any of the above, but is the most relaxed and best sport tourer of the bunch. 

I can remember being told 25 years ago that outside of a faithful and eccentric niche group, nobody would ever look back to bevel drive SS's.  They are now worth 10 times the amount they were at that time.  The market learned.

[malik]

And there was a carb'ed Spot at the Ruptured Budgie last weekend. Magnificent.




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