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HF lift
« on: August 25, 2017, 06:43:10 PM »
On sale this weekend for $279. Couldn't pass it up. Had to do a little front chock modification on it to suit me. I enjoyed saving $150 today.


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Re: HF lift
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2017, 06:57:40 PM »
Good for you!  I don't wrench enough (yet) to warrant one.   :thumb:
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Re: HF lift
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2017, 07:08:13 PM »
Good price.  Mine's been super useful.
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Re: HF lift
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2017, 07:26:47 PM »
My HF lift is the only HF thing more complicated than a cold chisel that I've ever bought and been satisfied with.

And to be honest, I don't think there's been a week gone by in 10 years where that lift wasn't on sale for $299, so you did good saving $20 .... They delivered mine on a big truck to the garage included in the price ....

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Re: HF lift
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2017, 07:54:36 PM »
A lift has been a savior for me. I can put the table at the perfect height to ease lower back strain. I even added a HF cheap winch to pull projects onto the table.
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Re: HF lift
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2017, 08:00:53 PM »
Good for you!  I don't wrench enough (yet) to warrant one.   :thumb:

it's worth it just for oil changes, if nothing else, but then again I'm and old guy!

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Re: HF lift
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2017, 08:02:20 PM »
I got mine last year with a scratch n dent discount for 320.00 I think? I got the optional chock for it which I recommend.  It just now "leaks down" if I leave it up and use it as a workbench. It will drop a foot over a week I think.  I haven't looked into it.  The EV is on it now with the safety bar in it. Good deal! Good luck with it. 


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Re: HF lift
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2017, 08:33:42 PM »
On sale this weekend for $279. Couldn't pass it up. Had to do a little front chock modification on it to suit me. I enjoyed saving $150 today.


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How big of a box does this thing come in?  Cross trek Subaru or do I need to fire up the old 3/4 4x4 Suburban?

Can my 24 yo son & I muscle it in and out of the car?

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Re: HF lift
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2017, 08:35:39 PM »
How big of a box does this thing come in?  Cross trek Subaru or do I need to fire up the old 3/4 4x4 Suburban?

Can my 24 yo son & I muscle it in and out of the car?

It's a big box. At least 6' long. It's heavy too. My son in law and I managed to unload and set it up pretty quick.


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Re: HF lift
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2017, 08:42:21 PM »
It's a big box. At least 6' long. It's heavy too. My son in law and I managed to unload and set it up pretty quick.


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Sounds like it will take the Suburban.

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Re: HF lift
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2017, 08:48:59 PM »
I have three, but only one with any sort of real chock on it. I like not having one so that the front wheel can be more easily removed. I have added two more sets of tie down points.
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Re: HF lift
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2017, 09:14:48 PM »
Getting the heavy bikes out of those chocks has always been my Achilles heel....
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Re: HF lift
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2017, 09:38:13 PM »
Looks very similar to my second string lift. I'd be cagey about using it for something as heavy as your MGX Luap.

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Re: HF lift
« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2017, 09:54:43 PM »
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BTW I've got the same setup on my HF hoist. Have a hell of a time getting the bike off the chock.
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Re: HF lift
« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2017, 10:53:51 PM »
It just now "leaks down" if I leave it up and use it as a workbench. It will drop a foot over a week I think. 

It's not good practice to use a jack as a jack stand. It's one thing to use the jack as intended, but they're not designed to permanently hold things up. If you jack up your car, place jack stands under the axle or frame and then back off the jack. Let the stands do the work. Same with the lift, get it to height, lock in position and back off the jack.

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Re: HF lift
« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2017, 11:33:50 PM »
Looks very similar to my second string lift. I'd be cagey about using it for something as heavy as your MGX Luap.

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Yep they will fall over, I had a Centauro strapped on mine, I turned around to grab a tool and the whole damn thing fell over as soon as my back was turned. So there it is laying on the ground with the Centauro safely tied down to it. What a mess! In its defense I had loosened the pads that screw down so I could move it slightly.
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« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2017, 11:37:09 PM »
they're putting up a Harbor Frieght in my town.  Going to be handy vs driving 20 miles to The City.
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Re: HF lift
« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2017, 06:09:59 AM »

I've been on the fence for years on HF lifts - even one time when I had a coupon for $259.  For various reasons, the most important of which is limited storage space, I'm leaning towards a Kendon tilt-up lift, despite the price being 3+ times the HF one.  Anyone have experience with the Kendon one?





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Re: HF lift
« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2017, 06:20:15 AM »
Luap,
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BTW I've got the same setup on my HF hoist. Have a hell of a time getting the bike off the chock.

Not sure about the malwarebytes thing.  The site is scanned daily, so I'd bet on a false positive.

Yes, it's rough getting the bike out of that chock for sure. That's why I cut the chock in half. Much easier.

Yep they will fall over, I had a Centauro strapped on mine, I turned around to grab a tool and the whole damn thing fell over as soon as my back was turned. So there it is laying on the ground with the Centauro safely tied down to it. What a mess! In its defense I had loosened the pads that screw down so I could move it slightly.

Yikes.  You just convinced me to create some braces for the sides that will lay on the ground, kinda like down-riggers.
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Re: HF lift
« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2017, 07:31:25 AM »
It's not good practice to use a jack as a jack stand. It's one thing to use the jack as intended, but they're not designed to permanently hold things up. If you jack up your car, place jack stands under the axle or frame and then back off the jack. Let the stands do the work. Same with the lift, get it to height, lock in position and back off the jack.

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« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2017, 08:11:58 AM »
Luap.. take a few minutes and go over it for security and *missing* fasteners. Mine came with a missing nut on one of the scissor arms. (!) As with Guzzis, thread locker is your friend. I also had to completely fill and bleed the cylinder. That said, it has been a great investment at 300 bux.
It's had no problem with the Mighty Scura, but you can tell it's a load. IDK what the MGX weighs. I'd be cautious at first..
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Re: HF lift
« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2017, 08:12:29 AM »
My wife bought me mine three years ago for Fathers Day. A very good basic lift. One bike stays parked on it all the time to save space. It really saves my knees a lot of pain. It is a huge box as it is mostly preassembled. About 300#. I could pick up one end. But not the whole thing. Got it home in the cargo van and slid it onto the driveway. Unboxed it and used a dolly to help drag it into the shop. Bolt the casters on and assemble the rear ramp and place the pedals on it and you're almost done. Use the stock sort a chock or use a better one to finish it. With a bike on mine, it'll leak down a few inches a day from a three foot boost. I only place  the rod thru it if I am actually wrenching that day. The normal sale price is $299. Anything below that is gravy if you catch it at a good time.
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Re: HF lift
« Reply #22 on: August 26, 2017, 08:20:52 AM »
Luap.. take a few minutes and go over it for security and *missing* fasteners. Mine came with a missing nut on one of the scissor arms. (!) As with Guzzis, thread locker is your friend. I also had to completely fill and bleed the cylinder. That said, it has been a great investment at 300 bux.
It's had no problem with the Mighty Scura, but you can tell it's a load. IDK what the MGX weighs. I'd be cautious at first..

Mgx weighs 800#. The lift is rated at 1000. Believe me, caution will be exercised.


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Re: HF lift
« Reply #23 on: August 26, 2017, 09:01:02 AM »

Yep they will fall over, I had a Centauro strapped on mine, I turned around to grab a tool and the whole damn thing fell over as soon as my back was turned. So there it is laying on the ground with the Centauro safely tied down to it. What a mess! In its defense I had loosened the pads that screw down so I could move it slightly.

I've had all manner of Guzzis strapped down to mine and have climbed up onto the lift with some of them, and have never even come close to one falling over.
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Re: HF lift
« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2017, 09:15:54 AM »
Kept looking at the HF Lift. There are two models of that lift that HF sells. The discount is always advertised on the lighter of the two lifts. The ad always states the image is NOT the lift you are buying.

The lift they are discounting has a few reviews stating the rig collapsed due to strut deformation. The reviewers beefed up their stands to handle the load.

I'd rather buy a stand with no collapse history. But I'm too cheap to spend the $1,800 to get a good lift. So at 71 I'm still on my knees or back for certain cycle repairs. It keeps me flexible and compliant.
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Re: HF lift
« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2017, 09:32:08 AM »
Kept looking at the HF Lift. There are two models of that lift that HF sells. The discount is always advertised on the lighter of the two lifts. The ad always states the image is NOT the lift you are buying.

The lift they are discounting has a few reviews stating the rig collapsed due to strut deformation. The reviewers beefed up their stands to handle the load.

I'd rather buy a stand with no collapse history. But I'm too cheap to spend the $1,800 to get a good lift. So at 71 I'm still on my knees or back for certain cycle repairs. It keeps me flexible and compliant.

My newest one is the same as the discounted one they currently sell. I don't know what these people are doing to make them collapse or the struts deform (maybe bike close to the max. weight rating?) but I've never had the slightest hint of any issue. But, the heaviest bike I normally lift is something like an (original) Eldorado, in the 600 lb. range.
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« Reply #26 on: August 26, 2017, 09:34:18 AM »
Even with the Triumph or Stelvio (tall heavy bikes) on the HF lift, it never even comes close to being tippy, if the bike is centered and tied down.    Mine is 10 years old or so now, but doesn't "leak down" noticeably.    When I've got a load on it for a while, I put the safety bar in and lower it onto that.

Only time you have a problem is if you do something dumb like shove a 3-gallon bucket of used oil or something under the lift to get it out of the way, and then lower a loaded lift onto it ... not that I'd know or anything .... :rolleyes:

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« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2017, 09:46:07 AM »
As I remember it the bike was being prepared to take it off the lift and had got out of shape somehow that I didn't notice. It was still raised and surprised me by flopping over. Otherwise it was as stable as it needed to be. Just be careful and you'll be ok.
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Re: HF lift
« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2017, 01:13:02 PM »
I ended up buying a used Kendon for $450.  It's nice because I can stand it up and roll it around.  I did have to refill the hydraulic oil, $7 or so from O'reilly Auto.  I found the trick to stopping the lift from leaking is to turn the valve back off after you're done with each operation and for storage.

I think the seller sold it because he thought the lift leaked and he had a new air over hydraulic Kendon.
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Re: HF lift
« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2017, 01:17:40 PM »
Luap,
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Me too. It just started today. I think it's something to do with the image hosting service. Everything seems to work just fine, so I just let Malwarebytes get on with its job.

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