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Re: Test Ride of H-D 114 Fat Bob
« Reply #30 on: September 04, 2017, 06:32:13 PM »
More vibration , less performance , and weaker brakes ? It's OK Kev , we know you loooove HD

My V7 II shakes about the same as my 883 Sportster!
That should be referred to as character!
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Re: Test Ride of H-D 114 Fat Bob
« Reply #31 on: September 04, 2017, 06:35:08 PM »
My V7 II shakes about the same as my 883 Sportster!
That should be referred to as character!

 Rubber mount ? I think Kev is referring to a rigid mount . Really just poking at Kev and his love of HD  :evil:

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Re: Test Ride of H-D 114 Fat Bob
« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2017, 06:39:35 PM »
Rubber mount ? I think Kev is referring to a rigid mount . Really just poking at Kev and his love of HD

Both Sportsters were pre-rubber mount, which began in 2004.
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And, he seems to love to debate!!

The 1200 Sport did shake a bit more than the V7 II, at idle.

The MG is smoother cruising.
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Re: Test Ride of H-D 114 Fat Bob
« Reply #33 on: September 04, 2017, 08:58:56 PM »
Kevin (alias Bone on XLForum.net) is worth all the razzing you can give him!
And, he seems to love to debate!!

Do you think?     :wink:

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Re: Test Ride of H-D 114 Fat Bob
« Reply #34 on: September 04, 2017, 10:27:12 PM »
I love the irony when a guy who rides a bike with a flaccid whale penis for a tank tries to insult the looks of another bike.


LMAO , which bike are you talking about ? i cannot stop laughing.... Jut curious  :laugh:

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Re: Test Ride of H-D 114 Fat Bob
« Reply #35 on: September 05, 2017, 06:12:42 AM »
The tires were never that fat ,  the exhaust systems that convoluted , or the seats shaped anything like that . The upside down forks are borrowed from the Japanese , as are several other styling cues .

 Dusty

  A typical 1940's Harley bob job had the same size tires front and rear and "fat" as compared to European bikes of that era.....And by golly this 1935 BMW does appear to have an USD...Maybe the Japanese and Germans shared the idea during WW2?  :grin:

         

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Re: Test Ride of H-D 114 Fat Bob
« Reply #36 on: September 05, 2017, 06:46:36 AM »

LMAO , which bike are you talking about ? i cannot stop laughing.... Jut curious  :laugh:

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Re: Test Ride of H-D 114 Fat Bob
« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2017, 07:12:26 AM »
this is


Star Low Fat Bob


Geez that last one dropped its guts on the ground??


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Re: Test Ride of H-D 114 Fat Bob
« Reply #38 on: September 05, 2017, 07:20:42 AM »
OMG talk about fake news, USD = JAPanInc. styling? Someone better talk to BMW, Ducati, KTM, Guzzi, Triumph, ETC.

It's a stupid comparison like the rest of it.

There are no "borrowed" styling cues, they simply departed here and there from a few of their more traditional lines to make something more edgy while making it functional.
To me the new FATBOB looks to resemble very much a Yamaha VMAX from the mid 80's.  I'd post a picture but my techno skills prevent it.
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Re: Test Ride of H-D 114 Fat Bob
« Reply #39 on: September 05, 2017, 07:32:03 AM »
To me the new FATBOB looks to resemble very much a Yamaha VMAX from the mid 80's.  I'd post a picture but my techno skills prevent it.





OMG, it's the spitting image!  :shocked:

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Now can we put this nonsense to rest?  :rolleyes:

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Re: Test Ride of H-D 114 Fat Bob
« Reply #40 on: September 05, 2017, 07:43:19 AM »
 Kev , the resemblance is similar to the one between you and Telly Savalas , not exact , but everyone else sees it  :evil:

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Re: Test Ride of H-D 114 Fat Bob
« Reply #41 on: September 05, 2017, 07:54:51 AM »
Kev , the resemblance is similar to the one between you and Telly Savalas , not exact , but everyone else sees it  :evil:

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Thanks the gawds for the Google, I had to look that one up.

Couldn't find a pic with a goatee though...
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Re: Test Ride of H-D 114 Fat Bob
« Reply #42 on: September 05, 2017, 08:01:26 AM »
Thanks the gawds for the Google, I had to look that one up.

Couldn't find a pic with a goatee though...

  :laugh:

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Re: Test Ride of H-D 114 Fat Bob
« Reply #43 on: September 05, 2017, 08:22:35 AM »
...this 1935 BMW does appear to have an USD...

I didn't realize BMW was the first one to use any type of telescopic fork with hydraulic damping, upside down or not.  In fact, if they were the first, then you'd think theirs would be right side up, and the other type would be upside down.  From Wikipedia:

"In 1935 BMW became the first manufacturer to produce a motorcycle with hydraulically damped telescopic forks."
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Re: Test Ride of H-D 114 Fat Bob
« Reply #44 on: September 05, 2017, 08:29:04 AM »
I'm with the OP, that this is way more appealing than most of what Harley is/has been doing (have always liked a Sportster, generally). One thing that jumps at me about this, and I feel the same way about the Indian Scout, is the way the seat locks you and your pelvis into position. I applaud Guzzi on the V9 on that point, that the flat seat allows for some shift - fore / aft, and tilt.

Am I alone in liking space in the saddle?

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Re: Test Ride of H-D 114 Fat Bob
« Reply #45 on: September 05, 2017, 08:30:46 AM »
Am I alone in liking space in the saddle?

No, you're not.
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Re: Test Ride of H-D 114 Fat Bob
« Reply #46 on: September 05, 2017, 09:35:05 AM »
I didn't realize BMW was the first one to use any type of telescopic fork with hydraulic damping, upside down or not.  In fact, if they were the first, then you'd think theirs would be right side up, and the other type would be upside down.  From Wikipedia:

"In 1935 BMW became the first manufacturer to produce a motorcycle with hydraulically damped telescopic forks."

 Yes, it was news to me also when I looked it up.....Aircraft have used "upside down " struts in the landing gear since the 1930's...I believe the British bike manufacturers pretty much developed the  non USD forks in the late 1930's....That was the style until dirtbikes? went to USD first?

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Re: Test Ride of H-D 114 Fat Bob
« Reply #47 on: September 05, 2017, 09:41:17 AM »
I'm with the OP, that this is way more appealing than most of what Harley is/has been doing (have always liked a Sportster, generally). One thing that jumps at me about this, and I feel the same way about the Indian Scout, is the way the seat locks you and your pelvis into position. I applaud Guzzi on the V9 on that point, that the flat seat allows for some shift - fore / aft, and tilt.

Am I alone in liking space in the saddle?

I think it depends greatly on the saddle.

Like I can move fore and aft on the V7, but it doesn't help with the fact that the saddle is cutting into the underside of my legs.

I can't really move fore and aft on the RK police saddle, but it doesn't matter in the slightest because the thing is perfectly supportive.

But generally if I had to pick one, I'd want a supportive saddle that did allow me to move around a bit.
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Re: Test Ride of H-D 114 Fat Bob
« Reply #48 on: September 05, 2017, 09:54:37 AM »
Yes, it was news to me also when I looked it up.....Aircraft have used "upside down " struts in the landing gear since the 1930's...I believe the British bike manufacturers pretty much developed the  non USD forks in the late 1930's....That was the style until dirtbikes? went to USD first?

 I think the first telescopic forks were on the old Scott Flying Squirrel in about 1908 , although they were undamped . Yamaha YZ MXer's started using inverted forks in about 1990 , and I think some supersport street bikes from Japan (Suzuki?) started about the same time .

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Re: Test Ride of H-D 114 Fat Bob
« Reply #49 on: September 05, 2017, 09:57:48 AM »

Guys , this video just made ma laugh...
please don't take it too seriously and don't get offended.



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Re: Test Ride of H-D 114 Fat Bob
« Reply #50 on: September 05, 2017, 10:21:10 AM »
Guys , this video just made ma laugh...
please don't take it too seriously and don't get offended.



https://youtu.be/6JsBZVo1q3Y

Saw it last week, already have my canned response from another website:


What sucks the most about riders in general is the subculture that seems to encourage people to be negative about everything to appear cool.

For f's sake this tool is criticizing how the new chassis works without actually RIDING ONE. He at least admits that maybe he was talking out of his ass at the end but shit.

And what are his criticisms? It's the usual litany of BS, wah wah I don't like how they look, the suspension doesn't have rebound or compression adjustment, it's only a few pounds lighter...Harley is damned it they do and damned if they don't (half say it changed too much, half say it didn't change enough). BUT WAIT, it gets better.


...then this tool goes on to pat himself on the back for being the real marketing and real way to reach younger riders, why? Because guys like him ride the bikes hard and shred with em showing how hard they can really be ridden.

HOLD ON A MINUTE you douche, you just contradicted yourself. Didn't you just finish bitching about the suspension not being enough? Don't you NEED rebound and compression adjustments? How the f are you guys all "shredding" with the current Dyna then?

There was also this brief mention of "liquid cooling"? If he was stating they have oil coolers that was a stupid way of doing it. Or did he just fall on his f'n head too many times?

Nah, typical, not surprising.
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Re: Test Ride of H-D 114 Fat Bob
« Reply #51 on: September 05, 2017, 10:47:39 AM »
I think the first telescopic forks were on the old Scott Flying Squirrel in about 1908 , although they were undamped . Yamaha YZ MXer's started using inverted forks in about 1990 , and I think some supersport street bikes from Japan (Suzuki?) started about the same time .

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Re: Test Ride of H-D 114 Fat Bob
« Reply #52 on: September 05, 2017, 12:10:14 PM »
Moto Guzzi fitted hydraulic "upside down"/male slider forks to the Airone in 1947. Well before they came into vogue on motocross bikes or anywhere else for that matter.

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Re: Test Ride of H-D 114 Fat Bob
« Reply #53 on: September 05, 2017, 03:51:32 PM »
The lowly Honda Trail 70 had inverted forks in 1969.   :rolleyes: :grin:


OK, those forks are more like pogo sticks, just a simple spring and nylon bushing, no hydraulics there.
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Re: Test Ride of H-D 114 Fat Bob
« Reply #54 on: September 05, 2017, 04:08:41 PM »
The lowly Honda Trail 70 had inverted forks in 1969.   :rolleyes: :grin:


OK, those forks are more like pogo sticks, just a simple spring and nylon bushing, no hydraulics there.

 Hmm , that front fender looks kinda familiar ... could it be that HD ... nah , surely not  :evil:

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Re: Test Ride of H-D 114 Fat Bob
« Reply #55 on: September 05, 2017, 05:47:58 PM »
I think he's fairly funny, what he's trying to do is actually pretty dam hard to do well, as shown by how few are able to do it well.   I suspect it's just that much more funny if you're like me and already have a chip on your shoulder when it comes to HD!!
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Re: Test Ride of H-D 114 Fat Bob
« Reply #56 on: September 05, 2017, 05:51:25 PM »
I think he's fairly funny, what he's trying to do is actually pretty dam hard to do well, as shown by how few are able to do it well.   I suspect it's just that much more funny if you're like me and already have a chip on your shoulder when it comes to HD!!
He'd be funnier if he didn't contradict himself... Well maybe not funny, just less stupid.
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Re: Test Ride of H-D 114 Fat Bob
« Reply #57 on: September 05, 2017, 07:16:35 PM »
Hmm , that front fender looks kinda familiar ... could it be that HD ... nah , surely not  :evil:

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Re: Test Ride of H-D 114 Fat Bob
« Reply #58 on: September 05, 2017, 07:59:01 PM »
Wait a minute, where did they get that name!
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Re: Test Ride of H-D 114 Fat Bob
« Reply #59 on: September 05, 2017, 08:03:15 PM »
Wait a minute, where did they get that name!

 Dude , I'd be looking for a good lawyer , gotta be worth millions  :shocked:

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