Tell me about a 2007 Griso

[MG1064]

I use the Motobatt MBTX16U on my Griso 1100.  Its capacity is 19Ah.

Brian

[keener]

intermission .........and i love the fricking thing 



 

[boatdetective]

He ain't the Jolly Green Giant, but he's no midget! 

I was not referring to His Most Indefatigable's stature. 

[Huzo]

I usxe the Motobatt MBTX16U on my Griso 1100.  Its capacity is 19Ah.

Brian

Hi mate. Welcome to the forum.

[mjptexas]

I expect this is a 2 valve motor, anything to be aware of this model?

I had a 2006 I bought used in 2013, rode for 4 years & put 9,000 miles on it.  Essentially the same bike as the 2007.  Had a Mistral pipe and a REXX ECU flash, that was it for the modifications.  Only issue I had was the known problem with the speedometer sensor getting wet - easy fix.  It was great for country riding.  I'd usually get over 40 mpg, unless I absolutely flogged the hell out it.  Then it may drop to 38-39 mpg.  Was ok around town, but not the best I've owned for in-town riding.  From everything I've read these last generation big block two valves are virtually indestructible.

Loved that bike.  One of the very few I've owned over the last 40 years that I wish I still had.

[Kiwi_Roy]

Mjptexas,
              I hope mines as good.
The only thing I don't like is the look of that fugly exhaust, I will try to get used to it though.
I have a Mistral off my VII sport hanging up, same size motor, might be able to try it.
The speed sensor fails because the water wicks in where the soft cable contacts the hard epoxy, I see that happening with a lot of industrial probes, I will put a bead of silicone around there for sure,
Still have my 72 Eldorado for around town, it's a sweetheart.

I'm also following this 2007 Norge thread, I figure it's somewhat the same
http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=92290.0

[bad Chad]

I had Guzzi Tech O2 optmizer on my B1100 for a while.  It did quiet down the off throttle back fire I got after putting on a Mistral can.  I was fine with it until I started reading Peppermint Pete's pros, where he would lash the poor little thing with all manner of fury.  I took my B1100 into the shop for some updates and tires and such.  He asked me how I like the Optimizer, I told him it seemed to do the job, he then told me that that was interesting as the way I had it hooked up, the computer wouldn't be effected by it!    Anyway a couple months went buy and Pete kept beating his pud, whoops, I mean drum.  I finally came to the conclusion that, he likely has forgotten more about the subject, and most things Guzzi, that I will ever know, so I pulled the little bugger.  I was expecting hiccups and farts, I got neither, it ran brilliantly ever since.  The moral of this tale, I should have followed Pete's suggestion from the get go.

[Huzo]

Fair point Chad...

[keener]

I have an Agostini SS reverse cone on the 1100  db killer in , good quality better performance( somewhat) and i think it looks the part. , 22000 km no problems as of yet ...could use a beetle map this winter i will get on it for sure



 

[Kiwi_Roy]

That looks NICE
Was it specifically for the Griso?

Looking under the seat all the space seems to be taken up by the air filter cover
I wonder if anyone has drilled holes up near the front and done away with that rubber spout that takes up all the tool space at the back.
Or done away with the cover altogether like the VII Sport owners do.

[molly]

One thing I have noticed on my recently acquired Griso 1100 is that it doesn't like the two front engine/frame  mounting bolts  too tight. They were  fairly loose when I bought the bike  and when I tightened them up there was more vibration than before. So now they are just nipped up with plenty thread lock to make sure they don't move.

[pete roper]

That looks NICE
Was it specifically for the Griso?

Looking under the seat all the space seems to be taken up by the air filter cover
I wonder if anyone has drilled holes up near the front and done away with that rubber spout that takes up all the tool space at the back.

Or done away with the cover altogether like the VII Sport owners do.

By all means remove the snorkel but I would strongly advise against drilling the airbox lid.

Plenty of pipe options available for Griso.

Pete

[molly]

Looking under the seat all the space seems to be taken up by the air filter cover
I wonder if anyone has drilled holes up near the front and done away with that rubber spout that takes up all the tool space at the back.
Or done away with the cover altogether like the VII Sport owners do.
[/quote]

I pulled the snorkel off the air filter cover and it did free up room for a puncture repair kit.
There is a bit more induction noise which can't be heard with ear plugs in. Combined with my own diy map the bike does feel stronger in the mid range. Personally I wouldn't play around with the air box too much, removing the snorkel is more than enough.

[Xlratr]

Removing the snorkel on my Stelvio made a perfect space for a nice Fuze Block installation.[emoji3]


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[Kiwi_Roy]

More questions

Whats that dirty great hole thru the bike above the footrests, I'm referring to the one with the chrome surround. Could it be used for a maintenance stand?

Is there a centre stand available?

What is the torque setting on the 4 bolts that hold the carc to the swing-arm. I downloaded the workshop manual which has lots of torque settings but I can't figure out which one I'm referring to. And oh, recommended grease to use when I get it apart.

Thanks in advance
Roy

I'm in Love

[80CX100]

Hey Roy,     Congrats on the new bike!

     I will be following your threads very closely, and look forward to hearing your impressions and opinons of the various aspects of the 2 Valve Griso.

     I have been lusting after different big modern road going guzzis, but none of them have hit all the right buttons for me,,,

     I'm just putting the finishing touches on a bunch of work on my CX100,,, had it out for a couple of short test rides,,, I love the bike,,, but I'm getting used to the more powerful engine and BRAKES on my CalVin,,, I can tell I will miss them both on the CX100.

     I've been reading how highly regarded the Griso is, in the world of big, back road bikes,,, Pete's opinion has always been extremely high of the model,,, sounds like it may be the epitome of 2 valve Guzzi design,,, that interests me greatly, but frankly the dashes have always scared me off.

     I am very confident, that if anyone on this earth, can come up with a permanent cure, fix or prevention plan for the Griso dash,,, you are the man. I'm glad to see you take the plunge and get into a Griso,,, they sound like an awesome ride,,, I can see one in my future if the stars align just right.

     My ongoing search for a 2 valve Griso with a nice pipe,,, has just intensified greatly,,, armed with the reassuring confidence that you are in the game,,lol.

     Ride safe & take care

     Kelly

[keener]

That looks NICE
Was it specifically for the Griso?

AF1 is the vendor... for the Agostini  can.... it shows as a  Griso part but i would think it could be universal.

[pete roper]

The muffler is the Ago conical. S'not a bad pipe. As always, it will run better with the dB killer in than out although that isn't as critical with the 2V.

Pete

[Kiwi_Roy]

Hey Roy,     Congrats on the new bike!
 
 
     Kelly

Thanks a lot, so far I love it.
One thing I did notice it seems to snatch at low speed in first, I expect that's something I will have to get used to.
It's not raining here at the moment so I haven't attacked the dash yet but I intend to.
Actually Huzo is the expert on those, I think I will try to seal it off and let it breathe through somewhere dry like the headlight bucket.
Conformal coating on the circuit board of course.

I know I should love the more modern 4 valve engines but the thought of that little roller whizzing around the cam would be too much let alone the additional 2k to buy one.

[pete roper]

With the snottiness at low speed? First take as much slack as possible out of the throttle cables, you want bar minimum free play so that the engine doesn't race when you turn the bars to full lock. Then tune it properly. A host of issues are simply down to poor tuning. Thirdly check the silent block bushing in the reaction arm. Early ones were too forgiving leading to a lot of 'Clonk' when a gear was engaged or the clutch released at a standstill.

Bleed the brakes and clutch, clutch especially. For some reason the CARC bikes are murder on clutch fluid.

Pete

[ITSec]

For some reason the CARC bikes are murder on clutch fluid.

Pete

I can attest to that. I have never owned a bike where the clutch fluid went bad faster than the brake fluid - till my Norge. I'm gonna change the clutch fluid again in the next week or two, making three changes since new. I'll be changing the brake fluid too - for the first time ever.

Now, let's see if I can remember how to make sure that ABS unit pumps the new fluid through properly!

[beetle]

Whats that dirty great hole thru the bike above the footrests, I'm referring to the one with the chrome surround. Could it be used for a maintenance stand?

It can be. Check out Street's clever lifting bar.

https://www.grisoghetto.com/t2329-lifting-bar-for-1200-griso

Is there a centre stand available?

There's no factory centre stand like the Stelvio has. There's a factory service stand, which seems to be just adequate. Becker-Technik make a great stand.


http://shop.becker-technik.de/en/37-lifter-for-moto-guzzi

What is the torque setting on the 4 bolts that hold the carc to the swing-arm. I downloaded the workshop manual which has lots of torque settings but I can't figure out which one I'm referring to.

50Nm I believe.

[ITSec]

There's no factory centre stand like the Stelvio has. There's a factory service stand, which seems to be just adequate. Becker-Technik make a great stand.

http://shop.becker-technik.de/en/37-lifter-for-moto-guzzi

Unfortunately, those bowsers won't even ship to the US.

[beetle]

Unfortunately, those bowsers won't even ship to the US.

Really? Missed opportunity there.

[KiwiKev]

Roy could knock one of those up in ten minutes


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[molly]

For maintenance I use a cheap and cheerful scissor jack under the sump.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MOTORCYCLE-LIFT-MOTORBIKE-MINI-SCISSOR-JACK-MOTORCYCLE-STAND-500Kg-NEW-UK-/253135704637?hash=item3af010523d:g:CBEAAOSwj9lZrmeU

[Huzo]

For maintenance I use a cheap and cheerful scissor jack under the sump.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MOTORCYCLE-LIFT-MOTORBIKE-MINI-SCISSOR-JACK-MOTORCYCLE-STAND-500Kg-NEW-UK-/253135704637?hash=item3af010523d:g:CBEAAOSwj9lZrmeU

It's only a matter of time and it'll go arse up using that. The sump's not flat enough underneath..

[molly]

It's only a matter of time and it'll go arse up using that. The sump's not flat enough underneath..

I always use the belt and braces method and have a ratchet strap over a beam in the garage securing the handlebars.
I can't say the bike is unsafe on the jack without the strap though.

[Huzo]

I always use the belt and braces method and have a ratchet strap over a beam in the garage securing the handlebars.
I can't say the bike is unsafe on the jack without the strap though.

Ok mate. Sounds like you've got it covered..

[Kiwi_Roy]

Thanks for the info gentlemen I will get onto it, I have a hydraulic motorcycle jack Should be able to bolt something onto that.

Its hard to see how the Becker stand works, a picture of a bike on it would help.
I guess I have to take the side plates off to get the swing arm out I should be able to see better then.

Will check out the throttle linkage and the fluids, sheesh, this bike was supposed to be less maintenance