Author Topic: V85 TT Merged Threadfest (Read 509022 times)

tommy2cyl · « **Reply #1950 on:** August 15, 2019, 01:20:12 PM »

This thread seems to cover various topics regarding the V 85 so I guess this is OK to ask: Looking for a recommendation on a tank bag for the v 85.
Obviously my nice Cortech with magnetic flaps isn't going to work. I just want something small that will have the clear area for a map on top.
I know that is old school but I still like looking at a map. The two that might work are TourMaster Select 7 liter & Fly Mini. These two are only 3.5" and 2"
high respectively. The pad for TourMaster is awkward looking and doesn't secure separately from the bag, and not sure the Fly Mini will work. Looking for option that might attach to gas tank ring, but most of those look like tall bags. Priorites for me are low profile with large viewing map pocket and rain cover included. Thanks in advance for any input.

Knuckle Dragger · « **Reply #1951 on:** August 15, 2019, 05:43:13 PM »

Germany's Hepco & Becker are marketing tankring mounts for their range of Lock-It tankbags, which are available in a variety of sizes, many with transparent top map windows.

https://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idProduct=98057&sku=MM605.5540001&description=Hepco+%26+Becker+Lock+It+Magnetic+Tank+Ring+for+V85

tommy2cyl · « **Reply #1952 on:** August 15, 2019, 05:55:31 PM »

I just stumbled on that about an hour ago. I like the mount, all the tank bags with the lock on feature are higher than I would like. I really don't like how big/tall the bags are. I prefer to keep that area clear to see dash and just move around more on the bike in the twisty studs. Just personal preference on my part. I would love to not have to mess with straps and worry about rubbing/scratching the paint. The gas lock mount is what I would prefer if I can find a minimal bag with decent clear map pocket on top. Thanks for the reply.

tommy2cyl · « **Reply #1953 on:** August 15, 2019, 05:57:23 PM »

Twisty stuff. Not twisty studs. Wanted to clear that up right away.

Zinfan · « **Reply #1954 on:** August 15, 2019, 07:24:58 PM »

FYI I looked and the Hepco Becker mount isn't available in the U.S. yet (or at least I haven't found it), I have an email into SW-Motech about a ring for the 6 bolt guzzi gas cap but they have not gotten back to me about it. I went with a Mosko Moto Nomad bag that uses straps as I have a trip coming up in a couple of weeks and wanted to have a tank bag. It does come with a removable map pocket that is pretty large and the bag doesn't sit too high on the tank, it for sure doesn't block my view of the dash. It is pricey though.

tommy2cyl · « **Reply #1955 on:** August 16, 2019, 06:06:02 AM »

Zinfan: Great info all around. The simplicity of a tank ring mounted bag really appeals to me. May have to wait and let the market place catch up with the V 85 on that option. The Mosko Moto Nomad is a good option. I do like the low profile and it is certainly well thought out like all their stuff is. Not sure I need that intricate of a piece of kit. Viking makes a bag for a Harley Steet 750 for $99.00 that is pretty much what I am looking for. My trip isn't until 2nd week in Oct. so have a little time. The Nomad suggestion has given me food for thought. Thanks for your targeted input.

jmee54 · « **Reply #1956 on:** August 16, 2019, 08:35:58 AM »

Trailsman, could I just clarify something, if you don't mind? Do your heated grips retain their own control unit that is recognised by the dash or does the dash do the controlling and are they operated by the LH handlebar button? Would I remove the control unit if present? Cheers John.

Dave Swanson · « **Reply #1957 on:** August 16, 2019, 09:28:36 AM »

So Beardog the OP for this thread - Did you find a V85TT??

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #1958 on:** August 16, 2019, 09:43:42 AM »

He's probably at the Michigan rally..

Trialsman · « **Reply #1959 on:** August 16, 2019, 12:13:29 PM »

There is no controller on the grips. It is controlled by the V85 software and left hand switch.

fossil · « **Reply #1960 on:** August 16, 2019, 12:43:35 PM »

Quote from: Zinfan on August 15, 2019, 07:24:58 PM

FYI I looked and the Hepco Becker mount isn't available in the U.S. yet (or at least I haven't found it), I have an email into SW-Motech about a ring for the 6 bolt guzzi gas cap but they have not gotten back to me about it. I went with a Mosko Moto Nomad bag that uses straps as I have a trip coming up in a couple of weeks and wanted to have a tank bag. It does come with a removable map pocket that is pretty large and the bag doesn't sit too high on the tank, it for sure doesn't block my view of the dash. It is pricey though.

Hepco Becker in the USA

Moto Machines

45891 Woodland Rd. #115
Sterling,VA 20166
Phone: 703-372-7241
fax: 703-940-9123
E-mail: info@motomachines.com
www.motomachines.co m

From the HB homepage.

Zinfan · « **Reply #1961 on:** August 16, 2019, 05:29:14 PM »

Quote from: fossil on August 16, 2019, 12:43:35 PM

Hepco Becker in the USA

Moto Machines

45891 Woodland Rd. #115
Sterling,VA 20166
Phone: 703-372-7241
fax: 703-940-9123
E-mail: info@motomachines.com
www.motomachines.co m

From the HB homepage.

Still have not seen it in stock anywhere yet. Pretty happy with the Nomad so far but have yet to use it on the road, having the built in water bladder is nice. Can't find it right now but if you go with the H&B ring system you cannot use their enduro model bag with it on the V85, saw it on a website when I was doing research on the subject.

Zinfan · « **Reply #1962 on:** August 16, 2019, 05:41:03 PM »

Quote from: tommy2cyl on August 16, 2019, 06:06:02 AM

Zinfan: Great info all around. The simplicity of a tank ring mounted bag really appeals to me. May have to wait and let the market place catch up with the V 85 on that option. The Mosko Moto Nomad is a good option. I do like the low profile and it is certainly well thought out like all their stuff is. Not sure I need that intricate of a piece of kit. Viking makes a bag for a Harley Steet 750 for $99.00 that is pretty much what I am looking for. My trip isn't until 2nd week in Oct. so have a little time. The Nomad suggestion has given me food for thought. Thanks for your targeted input.

Yeah my preferred option would have been to get a SW-Motech ring that works with this bolt pattern and use the bag I already have on the Stelvio but running out of time and I needed something. The Nomad is a nice item but it has far more features than I'd probably ever use and I could use just a touch more height to store my ebook reader, the layered design of the Nomad means things in one pocket sit on top of things in the pocket below and I have to be sure my reader doesn't get squashed due to overpacking the upper pocket. Still in all I can make it work, just would love something that is completely clear of the tank.

tommy2cyl · « **Reply #1963 on:** August 17, 2019, 06:31:52 AM »

Zinfan: FYI for all/Re: Tank Rings: 1. Hepco Becker: Wanted Daypack Small-listed under 5 bags that work with tank ring. I like the large map pocket/profile. Under the individual listing of Daypack Small it is magnetic option only with 4 magnets/ won't work with ring. Smallest tank ring option is Daypack 2.0. Molded material/rigid design. No integrated map pocket. Map pocket add on has larger footprint than top of bag. Looks terrible and I think would flop around in the wind. Why wouldn't they keep the design of the Daypack small so could use tank ring? Tank ring for V 85 tt currently has not yet arrived as you stated.
2. Cortech Dryver 3.8 liter. I like Cortech stuff/currently own magnetic bag for my Versys. Like the waterproof design with this bag. Map pocket is optional purchase but integrates very well with bag design. When I review tank ring options, of course MG isn't listed as an option. BMW appears to be the only 6 screw option, but I haven't been able to confirm whether this would work on the V 85. I have a request for info on this from one of the sites I researched but have not heard back. 3. SW Motech Evo Quick Lock tank bag lock pattern that fits the BMW R 1200RTW looks like same pattern as V 85, 6 screw. Again, don't know if this would work. Haven't researched this enough yet regarding map pocket option. 4. Givi 3-D tank lock. Again, need bike specific ring and the smallest bag/603 I don't think has map pocket. Spent a lot of time yesterday researching this but really am only acquainting myself with who offers this type of set up but no confirmation on whether options #2, #3, & #4 would work. Know for sure that HB will work when ring comes in, but don't like the bag/map pocket option available so far.

tommy2cyl · « **Reply #1964 on:** August 17, 2019, 08:59:24 AM »

Zinfan: More research. As best as I can determine with my parameters: 5 liter or less/low profile/reasonable size map pocket.
Neither Givi 3 D Tank Lock or SW Motech Evo Quick Lock have any bags that meet my criteria. Bags available with these systems are too big.
HB: will have an option of the Daypack 2.0 but the map pocket fitment sucks/ring currently not available.
The Winner Is:
Cortech Small Dryver Tank Bank/Ring Lock: 3.8 liter/11.5 x 10 x 6. $67.95 /$8.95 map pocket/ $11.95 ring set/detachable map pocket/bag waterproof with
no additional rain cover necessary. The only Ring Lock Options with 6 screw are the BMW & it is backordered. I don't know if this will work with the V 85 but the screw locations look the same. No idea if it will actually fit. BB is now closed until Monday. So, if I can find a plate that will work this will be the choice. Hope this saves research time for anybody who is interested in the smallest tank bag/ring lock design/adequate map pocket option.

NWrider · « **Reply #1965 on:** August 17, 2019, 09:08:34 AM »

I have a Givi tank lock ring for a Triumph 1050 Tiger - BF02 that looks like it has the same spacing as the V85TT gas cap ring. I haven't yet tried to mount it, but the only difference I can detect is that the plastic surrounding the tank ring on the V85TT seems to be a little bit proud of the tank ring where the Triumph is flush. A possible concern with the V85TT tank is that it's plastic and not metal like the Triumph and may not bear the weight of a bag as well. The Givi tank ring relies on 4 screws to hold the ring, not 6 like the HB tank ring.

Update: The Givi BF02 tank ring does fit the V85TT tank. However, the screws supplied in the kit may or may not be the correct length -- but they are readily available at a hardware store. The screws need to be about 8 - 10 mm longer than stock.

tommy2cyl · « **Reply #1966 on:** August 17, 2019, 11:42:04 AM »

NWrider: Good to know. Keep us posted when you try to see if it fits. This is my current quest so any and all info will be appreciated. My use for a tank bag is really minimal: extra ear plugs, 5 hour Energy drink (never leave home without it), sunglasses, ball cap, keys, maps, place for wallet, a map pocket on top for reference, small stuff that just need a home when on the bike. It serves the purpose of making my trip on road more organized. I don't consider that "real packing space", for me it is a bike's glove box.

blu guzz · « **Reply #1967 on:** August 17, 2019, 12:58:37 PM »

Since this seems like a general v85 post, I will add something I just learned. This is in regard to the front tire on Adventure models. Another poster or 2 have mentioned a bad feeling coming from the front on the Adv. models. When I took delivery, I felt some vibration compared to the base model with the Metzlers. I assumed it was the larger tread blocks of the Annakees and that they would wear in and it would stop. But 800 miles and I have either gotten used to it and tolerate it or it has improved a little or both. Anyway, Enzo called to talk about other matters and I mentioned this and he said that another rider had the issue and MG warranteed it so he was going to order me a new tire and tube to put on at the first service. If the sun was at the right angle so you could see the shadow of the front wheel, at 45 mph, you could see the tire moving up and down at the one spot. My only complaint so far and I could have lived with it but glad I don't have to.

NWrider · « **Reply #1968 on:** August 17, 2019, 06:01:21 PM »

Blue Guzz,
I have the same front tire issue. I'm getting a noticeable wheel hop - especially at speeds below about 50 mph. As others have mentioned, I don't like the howl of the Ankenee tire either. BTW, I've ordered a front fender from the Aprilia Caponord Rally (I took it off of my Rally and tried it on the V85) that fits perfectly -- I even think it will clear under full fork compression with the stock fender in place. It should keep a lot of the road junk off of the front of the bike and still allow ample air flow over the reg/rectifier.

On another subject, I was surprised at the amount of vibration my bike has through the seat from about 3800 - 4500 rpm. It's quite annoying -- I've minimized it somewhat by using an airhawk -- I hope it's a valve adjustment issue and/or maybe a revised ECU program would help. I did test ride the V85TT factory demonstrator but don't recall any vibration issues with it. A friend also has an identical V85TT and is having the same experience - so it's not just mine.

Huzo · « **Reply #1969 on:** August 17, 2019, 06:21:22 PM »

Is the wheel hop you mention, just a hurried job when trueing the wheel ex factory and therefore easily rectifiable by the owner ?
Seems that if Guzzi are prepared to honour a claim so readily, they are aware of the issue.
Also some clarification please.
You mention vibration.
If you pull the clutch and stop the engine at that moment, does the vibration persist, indicating a gearbox, UJ, bevel box or wheel balance/trueing issue ?

tommy2cyl · « **Reply #1970 on:** August 17, 2019, 06:21:45 PM »

Don't have the vibration issue. Quite smooth actually. Like the Caponord Rally fender idea. Anakee Adventure are terrible. Just let a friend of mine ride the bike which he loved but couldn't believe the noise of the tires. He actually thought they may be defective. He worked in the motorcycle industry for years.
Mine are being replaced as we speak with 705's. The Anakee's won't see 1000 miles. Hard for me to comprehend how such a large established company can develop that design and not realize the problem thru testing before production.

Huzo · « **Reply #1971 on:** August 17, 2019, 06:25:05 PM »

Quote from: tommy2cyl on August 17, 2019, 06:21:45 PM

Don't have the vibration issue. Quite smooth actually. Like the Caponord Rally fender idea. Anakee Adventure are terrible. Just let a friend of mine ride the bike which he loved but couldn't believe the noise of the tires. He actually thought they may be defective. He worked in the motorcycle industry for years.
Mine are being replaced as we speak with 705's. The Anakee's won't see 1000 miles. Hard for me to comprehend how such a large established company can develop that design and not realize the problem thru testing before production.

That Caponord fender looks fantastic on the 85.
What is the price of the part in the ‘States ?

NWrider · « **Reply #1972 on:** August 17, 2019, 09:40:11 PM »

Huzo,
$70 from AF-1 racing part #2B0024475

The vibration is from the engine. Smooth as glass everywhere with the clutch pulled in.

Huzo · « **Reply #1973 on:** August 17, 2019, 09:46:23 PM »

Quote from: NWrider on August 17, 2019, 09:40:11 PM

$70 from AF-1 racing part #2B0024475

I’m going to have to see our local Ducati man.
He gave me some ridiculous price for that black one in the shot on WG.

Huzo · « **Reply #1974 on:** August 18, 2019, 03:57:53 AM »

Quote from: NWrider on August 17, 2019, 09:40:11 PM

Huzo,
$70 from AF-1 racing part #2B0024475

The vibration is from the engine. Smooth as glass everywhere with the clutch pulled in.

Is this the one ?

Knuckle Dragger · « **Reply #1975 on:** August 18, 2019, 05:08:02 AM »

Quote from: Huzo on August 17, 2019, 09:46:23 PM

I’m going to have to see our local Ducati man.
He gave me some ridiculous price for that black one in the shot on WG.

How much did Stevens want for one?

tommy2cyl · « **Reply #1976 on:** August 18, 2019, 05:46:31 AM »

Zinfan: Thanks on Givi BF02 fitting. Good to know.

Cam3512 · « **Reply #1977 on:** August 18, 2019, 06:05:50 AM »

Quote from: Huzo on August 18, 2019, 03:57:53 AM

Is this the one ?

That looks “okay “, but the carbon fiber doesn’t fit the rest of the bike...

Knuckle Dragger · « **Reply #1978 on:** August 18, 2019, 06:13:16 AM »

Quote from: Cam3512 on August 18, 2019, 06:05:50 AM

That looks “okay “, but the carbon fiber doesn’t fit the rest of the bike...

A few minutes with a rattle-can will make it just about any colour you could dream of.

NWrider · « **Reply #1979 on:** August 18, 2019, 09:08:02 AM »

Huzo,
Yes, that's the one.

News:

Author Topic: V85 TT Merged Threadfest (Read 509022 times)