V85 TT Merged Threadfest

[blackcat]

I like it, though the colors make it butt ugly. Dual disks, more HP and with bags it will probably look better. 

[Phang]

horizontally split crankcase, a small block variant...

[Pisano]

Sooo.... No water cooling?

[JohninVT]

Overall, I like it.  I'd buy one.  There are a couple things I really like and a couple things I hope they change in production.

Likes:
-You can never have too much lighting on an ADV bike.  Twin LED's are great.
-If the bash plate is aluminum, it's probably the best stock one I've seen on this type of bike.
-It's doesn't look overly heavy.  I'm guessing 475-is and that's very good for this class.  A V-Strom 1000 weighs 525 fueled.
-Huge fuel range with that tank.  I'll bet it would go 300 miles.
-Tubeless spoked wheels.
-The footpeg castings are beautiful.  Several of the details are extremely nice and look production ready.
-80hp is good for a Guzzi but if it has 70ft/lbs that would be even better.  60ft/lbs would be OK as long as it comes in at 475lbs.
-It looks easy to change a rear tire.   

Dislikes:
-I don't like the way the tank juts out on the sides.  That would make engine guards useless and you'd have to replace the tank the first time you dropped it.
-The rear subframe looks nice but it's like a flying buttress.  That will not support a passenger and luggage for a week without breaking.
-The rider cockpit looks great but the pillion is too slanted, too small and narrows right where your SO's ass would be.  It also has a nub at the transition between the rider cockpit and pillion that might as well have a vibrator in it because it's right where your SO's kooka is going to be if she rides with her arms around you.   
-Not crazy about the offset shock.  The swingarm doesn't look beefy enough for offroad abuse and the shock mounting position is going to create a twisting force that typical mounting doesn't. 

[Diploman]

How can they possibly get 80 HP from that motor when the current air-cooled version delivers only 50+?  Without water cooling it doesn't seem feasible.  I wonder if there could be small radiators tucked into those cowls with air intakes on the sides of the fuel tank?

The cylinder heads appear to have built-in, replaceable crash bumpers bolted to the valve covers.  Detachable rear subframe.

[Dogwalker]

The bike is a concept cause it still has a standard V9 engine.
The definitive model will have the new engine.

DogW

[jas67]

V85 Stelvio Concept at EICMA
https://www.gpone.com/it/2017/11/07/news-prodotto/eicma-2017-moto-guzzi-svela-la-v85-concept-lerede-della-stelvio-e-non-solo

[bettythebear]

I'd buy it.

[Dogwalker]

Offiicial site.
http://discoverv85.motoguzzi.com/en/
You can vote for the name of the bike.

[Kev m]

Offiicial site.
http://discoverv85.motoguzzi.com/en/
You can vote for the name of the bike.

Maybe I'm losing something in all this but:

New steel-tube frame, which utilizes the anchorage of the engine to create a rigid structure that restores precision and rigor on the road, and even robustness and right feeling in off-road riding.

The engine is a two-cylinder 90° transverse air-cooled 850cc which, thanks to its complete redesign, has 80 HP of maximum power. A truly rewarding performance is assured on every route as well as guaranteeing to the V85 all the character and responsive acceleration Moto Guzzi is famed for.

Because whatever your adventure idea is, the new Moto Guzzi V85 will make it unforgettable.

Wait, so they ARE claiming this is or WILL be a 850cc Air-cooled twin putting out 80 hp???

What was with the earlier report of a 90" (1475cc) motor?

And the report of a supposed upcoming air/water cooled bike?

[Dogwalker]

And the report of a supposed upcoming air/water cooled bike?

1200cc, next year.

[Kev m]

1200cc, next year.

Same platform more or less or ???

[Phang]

Offiicial site.
http://discoverv85.motoguzzi.com/en/
You can vote for the name of the bike.

Thanks for sharing 

I submitted  -  Griffin

[Dogwalker]

Same platform more or less or ???

I don't know. They have been pretty good in mantaining the secret on the 850 until this EICMA.

[Dogwalker]

Thanks for sharing 

I submitted  -  Griffin

Good choice.

[Diploman]

If they are serious about extracting 80 HP from an 850cc air-cooled engine, I think that would be pushing the envelope to the limits of engine design, especially in terms of metallurgy and heat dissipation technology.   With water-cooled heads, however, this would be easily within the realm of feasibility:  but with air-cooling, as they claim, I think this will be entering uncharted waters.   It will be interesting to see what this "complete redesign" entails.  Reportedly, Guzzi is planning to use this 80HP engine as the basis for a whole new line of up to 10 bikes.

[Dilliw]

Thanks for sharing 

I submitted  -  Griffin

I went with Steppe 

[Mr Pootle]

If the Morini is sold in the UK while I�m still able to ride, and provided it�s not too high or too heavy, i�ll have that. The V85 says nothing to me.

[Murray]

Oh look it doesn't have 1960's suspension it has 1980's instead! Yay my socks are still on the marketing department just rolled its face on the keyboard again didn't it? The styling I don't mind I was hoping for a new motor though and this seems to be simply what they should of done to the small block 10 years ago.

[Tusayan]

Other than the modern brakes it appears to be something that would have competed with the pre-paralever R80GS in the mid-80s.  My guess is that it won't go into production as is, unless Piaggio thinks that by virtue of the small block engine etc it can be sold for a very attractive price.  Maybe it's a 'budget bike', otherwise I think it's not a serious effort.

[Steph]

If the Morini is sold in the UK while I�m still able to ride, and provided it�s not too high or too heavy, i�ll have that. The V85 says nothing to me.

 :1:

Re another V7 remake, I submitted “I am a banana’ for the  V85

[Dogwalker]

If they are serious about extracting 80 HP from an 850cc air-cooled engine, I think that would be pushing the envelope to the limits of engine design, especially in terms of metallurgy and heat dissipation technology.   With water-cooled heads, however, this would be easily within the realm of feasibility:  but with air-cooling, as they claim, I think this will be entering uncharted waters.   It will be interesting to see what this "complete redesign" entails.  Reportedly, Guzzi is planning to use this 80HP engine as the basis for a whole new line of up to 10 bikes.

It's specific power will be slightly higher than that of the Ducati 800, that it's 2V air cooled, but too high revvying for a pushrods and rockers engine and way more oversquare than the Guzzi V9. With 4V is in the realms of feasibility, altough at the limit. With 4V and raised camshafts, is the same specific power of the 2008 Griso 8V.

[steven c]

 Very cool. But then Guzzi has shown a lot of very cool concept bikes. They better not wait to long, who know's how long the adventure bike fad will last?

[Archangel]

http://discoverv85.motoguzzi.com/en/

[JeffOlson]

The passenger will not be comfortable, at least not without a taller pillion seat. Those flying buttress bars are going to hit the passenger’s legs.

Oh, Stelvio, where have you gone?

[Mayor_of_BBQ]

This could very well be my first ever brand new guzzi

been looking hard at the little tiger...  and next year is new bike time for me...  lets do this

[Steph]

I am disappointed, promises of a new motor or concept at EICMA  and we got a pimped-up Stornello!
For many Moto Guzzi is badly in need of something between the small block and the 1400 series bikes.

[Phang]

Euro 5 is just two years away, I am sure they already have something in the pipeline

[roadscum]

Damn that looks good. If they bring it light and nimble I'd gladly park one in my garage between the GSA and the V 7III.
Those of you wanting more powa make me laugh.... it's not a Ducati, it's a Moto Guzzi!!!   

Paul

[Triple Jim]

If it's around 400 lbs, they'd have my attention, but I have a feeling it won't be.