V85 TT Merged Threadfest

[Tom]

I'm still saying a 1400 LeMans with panniers would work for the "sport touring" crowd and wouldn't conflict with Aprilia line of bikes.

[TimmyTheHog]

From what I've read the engine in this bike is a V9 engine not the new one that wasn't ready for the show.  Still reading the Moto Guzzi page for the V85 it does say the new engine is air cooled.  http://discoverv85.motoguzzi.com/en/

I do like it and will take a look at it if/when it hits the showrooms (of which I'm not sure there are any within 200 miles of me but whatever)

All I can hope for is their "not ready for the show" does not turn into "we won't develop further due to unknown complications"...which is kind of a history with Guzzi as far as I can tell...

[Tom]

Probably wouldn't hurt to seal the inside of the rim w/bike tape.

[Steph]

yes, those look like alpina nipples to me

They wouldn’t put on the actual production heavy tubed chrome rims & cheap shocks on a show bike would they?
You can’t fool all the people all the time ...

[JeffOlson]

Unless they pull a rabbit out of their hat at the last minute (a la Steve Jobs' "one more thing"), I will be disappointed.

[Sigh...]

[Kiwi_Roy]

You can hardly expect a small company like Guzzi to come out with a new bike every year.
The 1400 was pretty radical, I( would rather they concentra6te on the existing models and just tart them up a bit.

[pikipiki]

Well what ever people think the v85 whatever surpasses my expectations. New more modern frame, engine upgrade is more substantial than anything since the introduction of the 1400, not God damned ugly,  no stupid wheel sizes, doesn't look like it will be hideous expensive. Only thing they maybe been too ambitious mentioning that engine. Might have made more sense to just laugh with v9 engine and surprise us with a new engine next year as it is if this is 18 moths off I'd have got bored by then and looked else where.

[swooshdave]

Were they asking to name the bike. I think someone nailed it early on... kooka.

[Tusayan]

Well what ever people think the v85 whatever surpasses my expectations. New more modern frame, engine upgrade is more substantial than anything since the introduction of the 1400, not God damned ugly,  no stupid wheel sizes, doesn't look like it will be hideous expensive.

Does anybody think this chassis design has a torque reaction linkage?  (like every GS for the last 30 years, and the Stelvio).  With long travel rear suspension and no torque reaction linkage, I don't think there's a chance the V85 could compete directly against other middle weight 2017 'adventure tourers' on the road.  It would need to be really inexpensive to find a market. 

[pete roper]

You can hardly expect a small company like Guzzi to come out with a new bike every year.
The 1400 was pretty radical, I( would rather they concentra6te on the existing models and just tart them up a bit.

Roy, the 1400 was a development of the 1200 Hi Cam that has been around for ten years. It could be argued that the smallblock has remained virtually unchanged since '78! It's not like they are being asked to produce a new motor 'Every year'.

The crux of the matter is what lies beneath those three bolt retained rocker covers. My money is on four valves as was clearly apparent was coming from the architecture of the V9 top end. Whether this will be a Hi Cam or OHC design or simply a continuation of the ancient OHV design is the big question. If it remains an OHV design then all that has happened is the engine has reverted to something very much like a Lario!

[Mayor_of_BBQ]

Were they asking to name the bike. I think someone nailed it early on... kooka.

Funny you should ask, there is a place to vote on the name on the bike's website lol

http://discoverv85.motoguzzi.com/en/

[Huzo]

-It looks easy to change a rear tire It also has a nub at the transition between the rider cockpit and pillion that might as well have a vibrator in it because it's right where your SO's kooka is going to be if she rides with her arms around you.   
-Not crazy about the offset shock.  The swingarm doesn't look beefy enough for offroad abuse and the shock mounting position is going to create a twisting force that typical mounting doesn't.

If you're "looking after" her properly, she'll leave the "toy" at home...
Just thinking about it, if your "SO" happens to be packing heat, that nice little bump might not be such a good thing...
Yeah, it will be easy to remove the rear wheel, a bit like an '07 Norge...

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

Does anybody think this chassis design has a torque reaction linkage?  (like every GS for the last 30 years, and the Stelvio).  With long travel rear suspension and no torque reaction linkage, I don't think there's a chance the V85 could compete directly against other middle weight 2017 'adventure tourers' on the road.  It would need to be really inexpensive to find a market.

The Yamaha Super Tenere has no "torque reaction linkage" and it seems to compete pretty well against other bikes in it's class. My buddy Leo had one and I rode it when it was here for me to put driving lights on. I could detect no "shaft jacking", but then I wasn't running it very hard.

[elvisboy77]

I am not into that type bike but I LOVE it

[Recht]

I like it.  My submission for a name is : TerraFirma.

[Huzo]

Still looks like the bridesmaid that can cook, clean and not answer back, but just not....sexy.
Anyway, now that the V85 thing is out in the open, can I have my 850 cc Red Le Mans inspired thing with Ohlins suspension and twin radial Brembos dripping off the ends. That'll be my V8. This money is burning a hole and it's starting to hurt...
I'll put up with the current donk, but piss those sewerage inspection cover look alike, rocker covers off and stop painting the damn engines with a black rattle can.
They look pox !

[bad Chad]

So the new motor for this bike is not yet in the bike?  That new motor is then to be another update of the small block, this time adding 4v heads and other tweaks to make it much more powerful?  Am I right on this count?

If this bike makes it to market, it will be fascinating to see how well it sells.   Aside from a new LeMans no other bike has been asked for by so many here, than a small block Adventure bike with significant horsepower!  Here it is, how many will put up their dollars to buy one???   My experience leads me to be cynical when it comes to those who claim, "If only they made xxx I would by it in a second!" 

I hope Guzzi sells thousands, but I suspect they will only sell a dozen or so to the usual suspects.

[beetle]

> waves hand before eyes <  ...this is not the bike you're looking for.


I shall name it "Anticlimax"

[HarveyMushman]

I can't find anything I don't like about that V7 Milano above![emoji16]

Yes.  The V85 is intriguing, but I could easily see keeping the big Stelvio and adding that Milano . . .

[Luap McKeever]

I like it. A lot.  I think it will definitely appeal to a broad age group for a broad selection of uses.  Win win. I hope they sell them by the truckloads.  I'd like to have one, but until I win that lottery....

[Tom]

So the new motor for this bike is not yet in the bike?  That new motor is then to be another update of the small block, this time adding 4v heads and other tweaks to make it much more powerful?  Am I right on this count?

If this bike makes it to market, it will be fascinating to see how well it sells.   Aside from a new LeMans no other bike has been asked for by so many here, than a small block Adventure bike with significant horsepower!  Here it is, how many will put up their dollars to buy one???   My experience leads me to be cynical when it comes to those who claim, "If only they made xxx I would by it in a second!" 

I hope Guzzi sells thousands, but I suspect they will only sell a dozen or so to the usual suspects.

 :1:

[rocker59]

• I don't know why, but that final shaft cover looks different to me...

That's because it's a completely new swingarm that's using a single shock.

[Scud]

I'm am close to being in the Adventure Bike market. Been looking at Africa Twin, used KTM 990s, the Husqvarna 701, and some others.

I quite like this bike. Based on the others I'm looking at you can tell I value off-road performance. If this new Guzzi comes to market, I could be tempted if they also offered a premium off-road version with 18" Rear and 21" Front wheels - and more ground clearance and suspension travel.

[rocker59]

bottom line, another revised small block.  Good deal.  OK

No new 1100-1200 performer here as hinted.

Have to say, this is a bust.  It is.  We know it.  Sorry to say it.

I feel your pain, brother John...

 

[Guzzistajohn]

I like the looks of it, but I like adventure tour bikes anyway. They’re so versatile, perfect for the places I ride. 850cc doesn’t bother me at all. I don’t know why anyone need 1400?..

[motocruz]

Remember this is a concept bike. I like it a lot for a midsize size adventure. Just what I'm looking for to play on. Looking at the cylinders close the fins are not deep like air cooled. They look water cooled to me. Available by the end of next year they claim. My 1100 EV puts out 76 hp and at 80 from a 850.... Fun fun fun 

[adventurelounger]

I️ have the name: Advottocinque

[arveno]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdeJl_paEkE

this guy is saying that the bike is just a concept and it will be presented as a real, finished bike, during the 2019 edition of the EICMA

I bet this bike will go make company to the Ippogrifo

[keener]

I feel your pain, brother John...

 

Enough  .... of the little fellas ....  where is the beef 

[Turin]

I submitted to the website that they should name it the V85 Quota. I think Quota is an appropriate name since they will probably import about 200 and half of those will be available new 10 years from now.

( I actually do think it looks kinda neat and it might be fun. )