V85 TT Merged Threadfest

[bad Chad]

Indeed, your R100 didn't have to deal with 2020 pollution control sytems, and ABS either.

[LowRyter]

Well,............
High beam blue light on dash only comes on when you operate the flasher..(didn’t know that)
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That’s my impression after one hour..
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I'd say that ain't right.  Something must be wrong there.

[mobiker]

Indeed, your R100 didn't have to deal with 2020 pollution control sytems, and ABS either.

I thought of the exhaust. The exhaust on an R100GS isn't lightweight....so allowing that the MG's is bigger and has a cat it might weigh 10 lbs more. Maybe 15? ABS doesn't add more than a couple of pounds unless MG is using something primitive. Also, the MG has a plastic tank and the BMW has a 5.7 gallon steel tank. As I said I was mostly basing my surprise on the weight of other small blocks.

[Huzo]

I'd say that ain't right.  Something must be wrong there.

Thanks mate..
There’s nothing wrong with the bike, the nut on the seat needed attention. It’s been explained here on WG that you need to have the switch on the right hand switchblock correctly positioned.
All’s well now..

[Huzo]

Somebody mentioned that they were investigating moving the top box forward on their V85.
I was looking at mine and saw that by fabricating 2 brackets that fit the spacing on the Guzzi rear frame, new holes can be bored up to 150 mm forward and thus allowing the box to be repositioned forward by that amount.



I haven’t done mine yet.
But I will...

[Mr Pootle]

Recently rediscovered why the toilet should not be in the bathroom (I was in the bath)
No idea how anyone ever thought that was a good idea.

There's an episode of "Father Ted" that shows the problem.

[NWrider]

Huzo,

Would there still be enough room to remove the seat?

[Huzo]

Huzo,

Would there still be enough room to remove the seat?

Yes NW, I reckon so.
The brackets will have spacers under them to clear the black Guzzi subframe as they pass over. I have done the same on my Norge, it’ll work ok I’m sure.
The seat only pops up a small amount and moves rearwards about 15 mm to release,
Today I’m going for a ride in the morning then home for the Moto GP later, after that I’ll do some prep and post some shots.

[NWrider]

Great, I'm looking forward to your experiment.

[john fish]

The one that surprised me is the weight. Given how light most MG small blocks are, I was expecting something in the 475-500 lb range. 537 is getting kind of porky. That's about 50 pounds heavier than my old R100GS.

Does "wet weight" include a full gas tank?  Gas is about 6 lbs per gallon, iirc.

I prefer weight reported with all fluids except gas.  That way, bikes with large tanks aren't penalized.

[mobiker]

Does "wet weight" include a full gas tank?  Gas is about 6 lbs per gallon, iirc.

I prefer weight reported with all fluids except gas.  That way, bikes with large tanks aren't penalized.

Yup, includes fuel. I never considered it a penalty. If I'm looking at a spec page, I'll naturally look at tank size. From there the math is simple to account for differences between fuel capacity. In this specific case, the V85 has 6 gallons, the V7's 5.5 and my BMW 5.7 so there is a max of around 3 lbs difference. Not enough to fool with since scales tend to vary by more than that.

[Huzo]

Is there a dedicated supply wire for powering the Tom Tom ?

[Zinfan]

Is there a dedicated supply wire for powering the Tom Tom ?

No.

[Huzo]

No.

Ok then, thank you.

[Huzo]

+1.  1/4 mile time for an adventure bike?  To quote above, that right there is funny!

Not quite as hilarious as might seem apparent.
Although Pete’s response is frighteningly accurate when he said “who gives a   “
The fact remains that 1/4 mile times are a blood and guts, unambiguous physical statement of the maximum power that was made by a motorised, friction driven vehicle.
Now we all know the interminable offerings by all and sundry regarding the claimed versus real world power quotes and if we don’t care what the 1/4 mile time is...?
Then we never cared what the power is.
I think there’s a gulf that exists here regarding what we “care” about, versus what we are “interested” about. I would have bought my V85 regardless of the real world power, because I feel that my bike will be using 65% of it’s performance potential the way I will be riding it, versus perhaps 50% if it were a meatier offering.
Any dissent regarding the watery power figure was always more about the lies and deception vomited by Guzzi, rather than the ultimate product.
I’m actually more than happy with what mine can do and I wouldn’t buy another 20% increase in performance if it was available for 100 Australian dollars. I just figure that the relatively modest power production will translate out into longer life.
Longer than mine I hope....

[kingoffleece]

I don't miss my 100 plus horsepower bikes at all.

[Dean Rose]

V85 Travel

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new-bikes/moto-guzzi-v85-tt-travel-2020/

[elvisboy77]

Guzzi is so good at using unusual colors to make a really beautiful bike.

[jacksonracingcomau]

Clever
But how long till aftermarket plastics like dirt bikes ?, any colour you want for sixpence.
Different set for every day of the week, few mins to new look.

Till then, distributor fits plastics to “ special order “ , punter feels privileged  to buy unique model

Travel name infers someones’s getting a grasp of English, some of recent names a bit lost in translation
“Rough “ never sounded as intended I’m sure.
“Tough” possibly what they meant

[maquette]

V85 Travel

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new-bikes/moto-guzzi-v85-tt-travel-2020/

If they had a dealer network I would find it interesting Dean.

[Huzo]

So how does it differ from my V85 except for the taller screen ?

[Kiwi Dave]

So how does it differ from my V85 except for the taller screen ?

As it says, Huzo ......

"The Travel version sets its sights further with a taller screen, hard luggage, a centrestand and fog lights, heated grips; all as standard. The Travel model also gets this new bronze colour scheme with unique graphics, including a ‘Travel’ logo on the fork shrouds.

It features Guzzi’s MIA multimedia platform for smartphone connectivity too, which gives the instrument display more functionality."

Most of this stuff is already available for existing models except the colour scheme and the unique graphics.

Would be great if the pricing was the same as the previous models, but I suspect you'll be paying extra for the extra goodies.

[janguzzi]

The colour scheme is extreme "fugly" ! 

[Huzo]

As it says, Huzo ......

"The Travel version sets its sights further with a taller screen, hard luggage, a centrestand and fog lights, heated grips; all as standard. The Travel model also gets this new bronze colour scheme with unique graphics, including a ‘Travel’ logo on the fork shrouds.

It features Guzzi’s MIA multimedia platform for smartphone connectivity too, which gives the instrument display more functionality."

Most of this stuff is already available for existing models except the colour scheme and the unique graphics.

Would be great if the pricing was the same as the previous models, but I suspect you'll be paying extra for the extra goodies.

Oh, ok.
I’ve done the centrestand, engine bars, hard luggage, Ohlins thing but don’t have the ‘grips or taller screen.
I have heated grips standard on my Norge and they’re ok, but still do not keep the backs of your hands warm.
I will probably go the screen in due course.
Graphics remind me of the colour of an old pair of pyjamas I had as a kid..
I like the red..

[NWrider]

I like the look of the saddlebags better than the Kalahari Rosso.

[Knuckle Dragger]

Aside from the colour & the 4?? stickers, it's just an option pack drawn directly from the accessory catalogue.  Presumably at a better price than if bought piecemeal.  Just as the company did with the two "ticolore" versions sold exclusively in the 2 or 3 northern countries of America (alu boxes etc).

But a beige motorcycle?  Hmmm.  Says it all, really.  That particular hue is known colloquially in Tasmania as "Calfshit".  I too like the all-red one better (best).

I don't mind those "town/touring" (Guzzi's website is currently down, so I can't look up their CORRECT name) cases personally.  Maybe not ideally suited to crossing the Gobi, but neither is the rest of the bike.  As a touring accessory, they're a slightly less capacious but more economical & aerodynamic alternative better adapted to road miles.

Addendum:  It's basically an "Urban Pack" (with the Urban Cases, stand etc.), the taller screen & hot handles.

https://www.motoguzzi.com/mediaObject/motoguzzi-sites/MASTER/brochure/2019/MG_Catalogo_Accessori_06-2019/original/MG_Catalogo_Accessori_06-2019.pdf

[Cam3512]

I see AF1 now sells all the bodywork to convert one over to all red.  EXPENSIVE!  I didn’t add it all up, but estimate over $2K just to buy the parts, then there’s the shipping.

FWIW, I like the beige color on that model.  It’s different.

[jacksonracingcomau]

I see AF1 now sells all the bodywork to convert one over to all red.  EXPENSIVE!  I didn’t add it all up, but estimate over $2K just to buy the parts, then there’s the shipping.

FWIW, I like the beige color on that model.  It’s different.

Pretty cool mark up on a few plastic bits, one of those “I should have thought of that first” moments.
Trick now would be to make that price “exchange” , send your originals with cash

One born every minute as they say, complete victimless crime.
Not sold of need but blissfully ignorant vanity.
I can hear them thinking
If mine were red, my world would be at least $2000 better

[Kiwi Dave]

I have heated grips standard on my Norge and they’re ok, but still do not keep the backs of your hands warm.

Before I discovered I could fit the Oxford heated grips, I purchased some Keis heated gloves liners.  They warmed the back of the hands but not the palms.

I guess in really cold weather both would be the bee's knees, but I can't see me needing both, it just doesn't get that cold here.  Being tethered to the bike is also something I didn't like, despite the "automatic disconnect" arrangement I set up.

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

Serious "chick magnet".