V7 III Milano

[kenvil1]

With a chrome exhaust system, cast wheels, aluminum fenders (?), and familiar side covers, the Milano is looking pretty good, I find.

[JACoH]

Looks like my v7 III Special, with alloy wheels, and different side panels. Not much else different. Nice name tho.

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

Milano? Another one? I guess Morini and Guzzi will have to fight over who gets to use it. 

[DaSwami]

Looks like I found my next motorcycle purchase, thanks for sharing!!

[DaSwami]

The "Rough" and "Carbon" versions are pretty awesome too.....gotta give MG credit for keeping things fresh!!   

[Murray]

The "Rough" and "Carbon" versions are pretty awesome too.....gotta give MG credit for keeping things fresh!!

Doing the tank and fender shuffle on a bike with 1960's suspension and a motor is keeping things "fresh" , do you happen to work in marketing?

[DaSwami]

Doing the tank and fender shuffle on a bike with 1960's suspension and a motor is keeping things "fresh" , do you happen to work in marketing?

Hey Debby Downer,  I happen to love the brand, the motor has a lot of new design elements, no more heron head, the bike has everything I could want in a street bike.  And yes, giving us more flavors of ice cream is always good, and how long has ice cream been around? 

I was going to get a V7III Special but wanted the cast rims, the Stone fits the bill but I hate the "all black treatment", the Milano has the Stone wheels and the Special classsy look, and a tach too....I'm in!!   

[kenvil1]

the Stone fits the bill but I hate the "all black treatment"

I too was leaning towards the Stone for the cast wheels, but I didn't like the black exhaust either, or the new side covers. The Milano nicely resolves these two gripes AND replaces the plastic body parts with aluminum ones. Nicely done!

Nice name tho.

Yes, it does have a nice name.

[Kev m]

Hey Debby Downer,  I happen to love the brand, the motor has a lot of new design elements, no more heron head, the bike has everything I could want in a street bike.   

+1 Brazilian! [emoji56]

[Adk.IBO]

...to many motorcycles, not enough money to buy them all!

[Matteo]

Milano? Another one? I guess Morini and Guzzi will have to fight over who gets to use it.

And Pepperidge Farms, my favorite cookie.

[Murray]

Hey Debby Downer,  I happen to love the brand, the motor has a lot of new design elements, no more heron head, the bike has everything I could want in a street bike.  And yes, giving us more flavors of ice cream is always good, and how long has ice cream been around? 

I was going to get a V7III Special but wanted the cast rims, the Stone fits the bill but I hate the "all black treatment", the Milano has the Stone wheels and the Special classsy look, and a tach too....I'm in!!   

I'd like to buy a new bike off them but currently they are putting out underwhelming underperforming poorly braked and suspended fashion statements, if I buy a new bike I expect it to be actually better than the one I already own and my current road bike is now 23 years old, the Griso was the only thing that came vaguely close since.

Guzzi can make a fantastically balanced bike thats brilliant to ride fast they did it a little while ago. With a new power plant they could possibly bring that experience to the road, currently we have a company thats doing the very minimum at the last possible moment, it rarely ends well you don't even have to go far back through Guzzi's history to see examples of this. This been touted as a new model is just a bunch of accountants running a company into the ground and its crap to watch.

 More flavours of ice cream is bad from a marketing point of view, if you give people more choice they are less likely the buy. http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/neuroeconomics-the-science-of-irrational-choice/5520958

[roadscum]

That Milano really does look nice. Had it been available in September it's likely I'd own one now rather then a V7 III Special.

Paul

[kingoffleece]

As a serious question-bikes 20 some years ago were fast-are the new bikes supposed to be so much faster?
Poor brakes?  My 15 V7 stone has the best non ABS brakes I've ever used.  Ever.  The bike stops RIGHT NOW.

The suspension on my old Bonnies was at least as bad as the OEM on my 2015 but I have not experienced anything close to what I'd call good suspension on any retro entry offering from any OEM. 

Heron head to new style?  Seems like "progress" to me.

The accountant point seems correct and what I expect going in with Guzzi.

[Kev m]

As a serious question-bikes 20 some years ago were fast-are the new bikes supposed to be so much faster?
Poor brakes?  My 15 V7 stone has the best non ABS brakes I've ever used.  Ever.  The bike stops RIGHT NOW.

The suspension on my old Bonnies was at least as bad as the OEM on my 2015 but I have not experienced anything close to what I'd call good suspension on any retro entry offering from any OEM. 

Heron head to new style?  Seems like "progress" to me.

The accountant point seems correct and what I expect going in with Guzzi.

As much as I'm annoyed by Murray's whining (and it's significant), I also understand what he is saying.

The brakes on my V7 are perfectly fine, no actually they're downright strong.

BUT if I'm being honest they're not as STOP RIGHT NOW as the dual Brembos on Jenn's 696, or the linked 1-finger stop Brembos on my RK.

The suspension is fine on my V7 and does the job.

BUT it's not even as good as my Harley Sportster, never mind my old B11, or Oilhead, or hell even my old Buell.

So I understand what he's saying, but I don't care. There's a reason there's a huge price difference between say the Triumph Street Twin and the Thruxton R. Similarly there's a pretty big price difference between a V7 and a Griso or Cali.

[twowheeladdict]

I'd like to buy a new bike off them but currently they are putting out underwhelming underperforming poorly braked and suspended fashion statements, if I buy a new bike I expect it to be actually better than the one I already own and my current road bike is now 23 years old, the Griso was the only thing that came vaguely close since.

Guzzi can make a fantastically balanced bike thats brilliant to ride fast they did it a little while ago. With a new power plant they could possibly bring that experience to the road, currently we have a company thats doing the very minimum at the last possible moment, it rarely ends well you don't even have to go far back through Guzzi's history to see examples of this. This been touted as a new model is just a bunch of accountants running a company into the ground and its crap to watch.

 More flavours of ice cream is bad from a marketing point of view, if you give people more choice they are less likely the buy. http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/neuroeconomics-the-science-of-irrational-choice/5520958

Sounds like you just need to keep your bike two more years and put a vintage plate on it and save all those registration fees every year.  For me personally, the V7 has enough power.  It is balanced with the suspension, brakes, and handling.  Some of us don't need to ride at illegal speeds every time we ride.  I've had performance bikes and got that out of my system.  I'm about just enjoying the ride now.

[Tom]

Boring paint to me.  I like the blue one.

[fotoguzzi]

With a chrome exhaust system, cast wheels, aluminum fenders (?), and familiar side covers, the Milano is looking pretty good, I find.

[kenvil1]

With a chrome exhaust system, cast wheels, aluminum fenders (?), and familiar side covers, the Milano is looking pretty good, I find.

[Kev m]

 

[TheBernd]

Like the Milano a lot. I bought 2 Months ago the stone in Black. If I would buy now a bike, I thik I would order this one.

But still like my black stone enough to smile when I see her :)

[Adan]

I'm more partial to the Carbon, but bottom line am happy to see more variants that don't scream "tail tidy!"  Shame it took them so long.

[Devildog]

I had an Alfa Romeo Milano, I guess coming out with a V7 Milano is payback for the Alfa Stelvio.

[kenvil1]

happy to see more variants

Variants are a good thing indeed. The V7 is an ideal platform for creative expression; the more flavours (unquote), the better.

[DaSwami]

Italian EICMA video of the new V7III and a peek at the new V9...

The Milano tank looks almost like an ivory or off white?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwyyuRsHPc0

[Murray]

As a serious question-bikes 20 some years ago were fast-are the new bikes supposed to be so much faster?
Poor brakes?  My 15 V7 stone has the best non ABS brakes I've ever used.  Ever.  The bike stops RIGHT NOW.

The suspension on my old Bonnies was at least as bad as the OEM on my 2015 but I have not experienced anything close to what I'd call good suspension on any retro entry offering from any OEM. 


The accountant point seems correct and what I expect going in with Guzzi.

The bike from 20years ago is pedestrianly slow compared to bikes of today (94 1100 sport) however Guzzi currently offer nothing better, its steering geometry is a bit outdated as well, I've already upgraded things like brakes carbs exhaust etc but simply its an old bike the engineering will only ever do so much. As for the extra cost associated with suspension brakes etc I'll pay its always worth it IMO.

I'll happily skip the retro styling its not that important to me, If I go to the time and expense of buying a new bike it should be better than the current old dinosaur I own otherwise what's the point, I enjoy it but its a steam train in the microchip world.

The v7 brakes are doughy and lack any real bite the throttle is doughy and lacks any bite sure fine for new riders I'm not a new rider anymore, even the 1400 cali on Veloce is pretty tame and I didn't really understand why it has other riding modes the most aggressive is perfectly manageable in all situations. It still turns like a boat and stops like a train its better than most cruisers but it is still a cruiser. Actually why bikes have multiple riding modes is a bit of a mystery the other ones with switchable modes I've found to be more than manageable on their most aggressive in traffic.

The last bike I brought from Guzzi wasn't even road registrable its not perfect but its a brilliant step up on anything that Guzzi made before or since ands thats my issue 10 odd years after i brought that bike there is nothing available for the road with similar performance even when it wasn't even cutting edge at the time? Guzzi have disappearing into their own little world only ever competing with itself which is fine if your customer base only ever exclusively rides their bikes which is a very small customer base when we talk about guzzi.

I'd like the marketing department to pick up a new marketing line, Higher Better Faster Stronger, hopefully it will be reflected in the engineering.

BTW If anyone has exclusive rights to the Names of Milano and Stelvio it is the city and the mountain pass.

[TheBernd]

I understand what you mean, but why do you repeat every fart what you don't like on a Guzzi? I think everybody here knows the disadvantages of a Guzzi, I like it because it is new but beside Harley very close to their roots from technical point of view but with ABS TC... and when retro styling is not for you, there are better bikes out there, you are right. But I don't like sport bikes an have no need to tell people in a Sport bike Forum why I don't like these bikes.

So what is your reason to tell people endless that Guzzi build bad bikes?

[fossil]

Well, Murray,

if you don�t like bikes in a classical design ( V7, Bonnevilles, Sportsters, Interceptors and the like), then don�t buy them. I am happy about each bike that has the flair of a nice 60�s or early 70�s product but sports good brakes (and the brakes of my V7 Stone are adequate), catalytic converters, a modern fuel injection, and so on. Of course for the price of my Guzzi I would have been able to buy an Aprilia Shiver, a small Monster, a Street Triple or a Yamaha MT-09. But only looking at bikes like these gives me no joy. And as good and strong as these engines are - where is the feeling of a real combustion engine?

Don�t bad-mouth them, ignore them and get a Honda. But please do not try to convince us we have bought the wrong bike.

I like the Milano very much.

[Xlratr]

Well, Murray,

if you don�t like bikes in a classical design ( V7, Bonnevilles, Sportsters, Interceptors and the like), then don�t buy them. I am happy about each bike that has the flair of a nice 60�s or early 70�s product but sports good brakes (and the brakes of my V7 Stone are adequate), catalytic converters, a modern fuel injection, and so on. Of course for the price of my Guzzi I would have been able to buy an Aprilia Shiver, a small Monster, a Street Triple or a Yamaha MT-09. But only looking at bikes like these gives me no joy. And as good and strong as these engines are - where is the feeling of a real combustion engine?

Don�t bad-mouth them, ignore them and get a Honda. But please do not try to convince us we have bought the wrong bike.

I like the Milano very much.

Gut gesagt! [emoji16]


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[kingoffleece]

Good grief, Murray, they're flipping motorcycles.  It's not brain surgery.