Not all Cagers are Bad

[Kiwi_Roy]

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[Socalrob]

Seemed like rider was moving at a pretty good clip.  I believe lots of these sort of collisions happen at least in part because the bike is speeding and when the car driver first looks the bike is too far away to be a threat.

I see somebody waiting to pull out or turn in front of me I want to be going a bit under the speed limit.

[Triple Jim]

I see somebody waiting to pull out or turn in front of me I want to be going a bit under the speed limit.

Absolutely, and I've taught my daughter to do that too.  Survival requires you to be going a speed that lets you avoid a crash when the other driver doesn't see you can pulls out in front of you.

[TimmyTheHog]

ya, I have to "drill" the idea that "even though you have right-of-way as straight, but doesn't mean you are entitled to not care how other people will do"...

When you don't "care" on the road, someone gets hurt...and there are a lot of people around my hood just do not care...

At the minimum, let off the gas when coming to an intersection...neve r hurt to be prepared

[normzone]

I watched the video, and I have to say that I've been on both ends of that conversation before.

And as mentioned here earlier today in a different thread I always try to acknowledge anybody who is being observant.

Periodically I'll see somebody get ready to pull out, look around and see me, and stop and wait until I've gone by. They always get a wave or a nod from me.

I go through intersections with my head on a swivel and the brakes covered - speed reduced if appropriate. Still get the pants scared off me periodically.

My brother told a tale of pulling out in front of somebody, then pulling over to let him pass. The guy stopped and verbally went off on my brother.

My brother apologized, said he regretted his mistake and he'd be more careful. The guy continued to go off at the mouth.

My brother said " Hey, I apologized, don't I get any credit for that ? "

The other driver paused, then HE apologized, acknowledged my brother was correct, and apologized for going off in the manner he did. They parted ways amiably.

If only they ALL went like that ....

[Tom]

The rider should have been weaving, flashing his lights or slowing down.

[wrbix]

The rider should have been weaving, flashing his lights or slowing down.

Careful....many drivers at intersections interpret a headlight flash as a signal to "go ahead and pull out".

[willard]

Seemed like rider was moving at a pretty good clip.  I believe lots of these sort of collisions happen at least in part because the bike is speeding and when the car driver first looks the bike is too far away to be a threat.

I see somebody waiting to pull out or turn in front of me I want to be going a bit under the speed limit.

I agree completely. I hear about a lot of riders' accidents in terms like, 'the car suddenly pulled out in front of me' or 'cager cut me off', when the whole truth is probably a little less lopsided. IMO, if a rider is speeding when an accident occurs, the rider can not claim total innocence when a tragedy results.

Motorcycles are regarded as dangerous, but they also attracts people prone to danger already. So you have to give concessions for that...

[Tom]

Careful....many drivers at intersections interpret a headlight flash as a signal to "go ahead and pull out".

Point being....speeding towards a possible pull out is the worst thing a rider should be doing.

[Diploman]

The driver-preparing-to-pull-out scenario, a type of bike/car encounter I see nearly every time I ride, is exactly the reason my V50 is fitted with a Denali Split air horn.  I use it without hesitation to alert drivers to my presence and approach.  It is extremely effective in this role, and I am certain that it has saved me from a number of potentially nasty situations.  I will not ride without a serious horn. 

Had the rider in the video used a strong dual-tone horn to cut through road noise and closed windows, the driver would undoubtedly have been aware of the bikes approach sooner and likely would not have pulled out.

[Tom]

 :1:

[steven c]

 Wow two rationale people, that doesn't happen very often these days.