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Are these things serviceable?
« on: November 16, 2017, 05:03:52 AM »
Would like to know if they can be dismantled/cleaned to any real effect.
Pete gave me a new one which is perfect, but I don't want to pitch this one out. It's sticking a bit as a result of my over rich mixture gumming it up.


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Re: Are these things serviceable?
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2017, 05:29:34 AM »
I want to know that too

the plastic stepper motor and the plunger looks like this, it looks it can be detached from the aluminium housing by a twist

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Re: Are these things serviceable?
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2017, 07:20:59 AM »
Peter

I replaced mine with a new plastic one a couple of years back and it looks like this one is sticky now - GRRRRRRR

I disassembled the old original one and it came out as a pile of scrap. However I stupidly threw the body so I don't know whether Phangs spot would fit

However, I've just ordered a DIY-Adjustable-Speed-Stepper-Motor-Driver-Controller-with-Remote-Control-2-phase

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DIY-Adjustable-Speed-Stepper-Motor-Driver-Controller-with-Remote-Control-2-phase/112142505630?_trkparms=aid%3D777003%26algo%3DDISCL.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D49131%26meid%3Da8214992df00426fb24f8c271c6a15c2%26pid%3D100012%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D232553250381&_trksid=p2047675.c100012.m1985


And the plan with a suitable plug is to stroke the damn thing back and forth off the bike and with copious amounts of carb cleaner and compressed air see if I can get it un-sticky

My theory is that its not the motor itself that's the issue but the gear drive so if I can stroke it a bunch of times and clean/lube it I might get a solution

If it works you can either post me your old one and I'll give it a coat of stroking and cleaning and post it back or I'll post you the PATENTED CARC ICV STROKER and you can send it back when you're finished

Watch this space
« Last Edit: November 16, 2017, 07:52:11 AM by tris »
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Re: Are these things serviceable?
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2017, 12:42:35 AM »
Removed by a twist you say?
Ok, thankyou guys, nothing to lose by having a look.

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Re: Are these things serviceable?
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2017, 02:00:07 AM »
I  hope it is as straight forward as this

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Re: Are these things serviceable?
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2017, 03:22:42 AM »
Plus the subtle application of pressure applied thus  :wink:

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Re: Are these things serviceable?
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2018, 01:16:45 PM »
Go here Peter http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/moto-guzzi-stelvio-merged-threadfest.113158/page-751 reply #15009

Looks like they come apart but the stepper that came out seems to have a different end to the one Phang found
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Re: Are these things serviceable?
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2018, 01:24:42 PM »
 Technically almost everything is serviceable , just depends on how stubborn you are , and if spending a buck to save 50 cents is a good idea  .

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Re: Are these things serviceable?
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2018, 01:25:42 PM »
Go here Peter http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/moto-guzzi-stelvio-merged-threadfest.113158/page-751 reply #15009

Looks like they come apart but the stepper that came out seems to have a different end to the one Phang found
Thank you Tris.
A good read. The first 90,000 were spent on a too rich mixture which I'm informed will possibly have contributed to some contamination but Pete gave me a clean one.
I've put 30,000 on it so with the new map and Roperising, it should be as clean as a birds bum !

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Re: Are these things serviceable?
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2018, 01:28:33 PM »
BTW, that's an old thread you unearthed..
What are you doing back there ?
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Re: Are these things serviceable?
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2018, 02:03:08 PM »
I'm a slow reader :wink:

Seriously though I have a sticky ICV and am trying to avoid spending £350 to replace it .... again

So I'm reading everything I can find to see if a clever individual has cracked the issue.  Not found it yet  :sad:

Still my stepper controller finally arrived yesterday so maybe I'll be able to make some progress.

If this doesn't help me fix it I'll take the £350 (plus what I'll save NOT fixing the clocks) and Microsquirt the bike

If I didnt like the bike as much as I do I would be wasting my time and money on it.

Love is such a fickle thing  :kiss:




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Re: Are these things serviceable?
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2018, 03:51:02 PM »
I'm a slow reader :wink:

Seriously though I have a sticky ICV and am trying to avoid spending �350 to replace it .... again

So I'm reading everything I can find to see if a clever individual has cracked the issue.  Not found it yet  :sad:

Still my stepper controller finally arrived yesterday so maybe I'll be able to make some progress.

If this doesn't help me fix it I'll take the �350 (plus what I'll save NOT fixing the clocks) and Microsquirt the bike

If I didnt like the bike as much as I do I would be wasting my time and money on it.

Love is such a fickle thing  :kiss:
I thought a sticky ICV would be best remedied by a Doctor.. :embarrassed:

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Re: Are these things serviceable?
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2018, 05:19:16 AM »
It is normally, but with the stepper controller I should now be able to move it in and ............ perhaps I should stop there  :azn:
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Re: Are these things serviceable?
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2018, 05:47:00 PM »
It is normally, but with the stepper controller I should now be able to move it in and ............ perhaps I should stop there  :azn:
Oh beehaaaveee !!!

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Re: Are these things serviceable?
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2018, 08:15:10 AM »
Hmmm....I disconnected mine about 8 or 9 years ago, so I'm guessing it is in like new condition.
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Re: Are these things serviceable?
« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2018, 10:29:32 AM »
Hmmm....I disconnected mine about 8 or 9 years ago, so I'm guessing it is in like new condition.

OK BC - why did you disconnect it?

Was it messing about?

What did you do with the pipe work?

Is it still plugged into the loom?

I ask as its one of the options I'm evaluating to save the 350 GBP mine will cost to replace if i can't fix this one

Cheers
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Re: Are these things serviceable?
« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2018, 10:50:11 AM »
OK BC - why did you disconnect it?

Was it messing about?

What did you do with the pipe work?

Is it still plugged into the loom?

I ask as its one of the options I'm evaluating to save the 350 GBP mine will cost to replace if i can't fix this one

Cheers

I got tired of the weird engine racing when it got hot, so I just plugged the lines and kept the wiring in place. Yeah, when it gets cold outside I have to warm up the engine and while that can be a pain when it's really cold it hasn't been much of a problem after a couple minutes of riding. There maybe another reason to keep the thing but it hasn't been a problem for my 07 Norge and I certainly wouldn't spend that kind of money without trying a disconnect, as it isn't that difficult to do.
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Re: Are these things serviceable?
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2018, 12:57:41 AM »
Thanks for that info.  :thumb:
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